Stadium Expansion *APPROVED* Sept ‘22 - Details / Images Released on Planning Site

[Mapperleyfox]

20 hours ago, Lako42 said:

I just can't get my head around the fact that this club is willing to turn new fans away. 

 

It genuinely blows my mind that say a couple and their young child could turn up at the ticket office this afternoon to buy 3 tickets as their little one is foxes mad and be told they are not welcome, despite tickets being available. 

 

I bet they would like them to stop by the club shop and buy some of the grossly overpriced shit they sell though. 

 

The club is drifting further and further away from us. 

The marketing strategy is a joke, especially when you're going to want to attract more punters in over the long term. Whoever came up with the membership policy needs their P45. It feels like a commercial decision over riding what's best for supporters, which, despite all the free beers and donuts, shows you what the club's real attitude to the fans is.

[Babylon]

24 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

It's a pity they didn't think long-term when they gave out ridiculous contracts and wages to mediocre players, that have ended with the present no buying until selling scenario, we now find ourselves in. Rank amateurism.

Hate to break it to you, but most seasons we've sold to buy. 

[coolhandfox]

28 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

It's a pity they didn't think long-term when they gave out ridiculous contracts and wages to mediocre players, that have ended with the present no buying until selling scenario, we now find ourselves in. Rank amateurism.

So the club management which has been in place since 2010, and has delivered our longest stay in the PL on record, a PL title, FA Cup, 3 seasons of European football and recorded 4 of our best league finishes in history are amateurs?

 

They make mistakes sure, some really bad ones, but to call the amateurs is just silly  

 

 

 

[FoxesAreBlue]

2 hours ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

…Fulham being a London club in a fashionable area could easily get bigger crowds aswell.

Who are also currently extending their ground despite having to compete for ticket sales with the likes of Chelsea, Brentford and QPR on their doorstep let alone all of the other London clubs in that city

[Lesta2014]

49 minutes ago, sm1 said:

True, and we should've prioritised the stadium expansion over Seagrave. After the PL win, we were the most popular team in Britain and attracting fans wouldn't have been an issue. 

Disagree to continue to achieve stuff we needed a more modern training ground, hopefully next 12/18 months will see players coming through from academy and improve the team on the pitch saving us lots in transfer fees and having a team on the pitch people want to come and watch. 

[Daggers]

54 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Are you this angry about everything? 

If he isn’t, I am. You should hear me wax on about the way supermarkets regularly change the location of their stock. I make navvies blush.

[PAPA LAZAROU]

8 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

So the club management which has been in place since 2010, and has delivered our longest stay in the PL on record, a PL title, FA Cup, 3 seasons of European football and recorded 4 of our best league finishes in history are amateurs?

 

They make mistakes sure, some really bad ones, but to call the amateurs is just silly  

 

 

 

A mistake is buying the odd player for too much and it doesn't turn out. Amateurism is when you pay silly money to players who are not good enough on long-term contracts that have the knock-on effect of not being able to buy a single player until you sell one. Now that IS silly.

[PAPA LAZAROU]

8 hours ago, Babylon said:

Hate to break it to you, but most seasons we've sold to buy. 

Yes but so far we've sold no one and bought no one. With the season already kicked off and all the best players already snapped up and playing against us. So not your normal selling and buying season is it?

[PAPA LAZAROU]

8 hours ago, Webbo said:

Are you this angry about everything? 

Why have you got any more suggestions?

[los dedos]

For the stadium or players ?😬

[lanefox]

1 minute ago, los dedos said:

For the stadium or players ?😬

How much have we borrowed?

[los dedos]

1 hour ago, lanefox said:

How much have we borrowed?

Apparently it doesn't say . Looks like a  whole host of clubs borrowing from them recently.  I know it's not our first time .

[sacreblueits442]

16 hours ago, sm1 said:

True, and we should've prioritised the stadium expansion over Seagrave. After the PL win, we were the most popular team in Britain and attracting fans wouldn't have been an issue. 

...building Seagrave at the time would have saved us millions, as the interest rate at the time was so low!!!

[smudger63]

3 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...building Seagrave at the time would have saved us millions, as the interest rate at the time was so low!!!

It would, and it's great that we have a modern state of the art training ground, but  anyone who thinks that a player will base his decision to join the club on how good a training ground is, is deluded. A player will look at the club, the ambition and momentum of the club. Are they a club on the rise or a club on the slide. Are they going to be competing in the top half or the bottom half of a table. In terms of the best kids being recruited into academys, although I'm sure they will be impressed with the training ground, ultimately it will be about the status of the club, and their reputation for young players progressing.  The training ground will be a bonus, but not the most important thing to a player, or a parent of a young kid with talent. There was a lot of talk when we built the training ground saying it would help us attract better players, but that was tosh, the clubs status, and ambitions are what attracts players, as well as a big wad of cash of course

[tsintskaro]

21 hours ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

It's a pity they didn't think long-term when they gave out ridiculous contracts and wages to mediocre players, that have ended with the present no buying until selling scenario, we now find ourselves in. Rank amateurism.

You dont question club top management authority here, or you get bullied 

foxestalk members will  punch the air and fight windmills, instead of questioning club wrongdoings 

 

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, smudger63 said:

It would, and it's great that we have a modern state of the art training ground, but  anyone who thinks that a player will base his decision to join the club on how good a training ground is, is deluded. A player will look at the club, the ambition and momentum of the club. Are they a club on the rise or a club on the slide. Are they going to be competing in the top half or the bottom half of a table. In terms of the best kids being recruited into academys, although I'm sure they will be impressed with the training ground, ultimately it will be about the status of the club, and their reputation for young players progressing.  The training ground will be a bonus, but not the most important thing to a player, or a parent of a young kid with talent. There was a lot of talk when we built the training ground saying it would help us attract better players, but that was tosh, the clubs status, and ambitions are what attracts players, as well as a big wad of cash of course

...I  have said many times, the training ground is only bricks and mortar!!!

  You bring in the right people, with a coherent plan, with a strategy for recruiting to develop young players,  and over time it will pay dividends.

  My response was not a short sighted look at the view of prospective acquisition,  but in answer to the question why choose building the Training ground,  instead of expanding the ground.

 At the time and in view of the size of the investment, such a low interest rate, meant it was the right time to proceed with the project.

 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

1 hour ago, tsintskaro said:

You dont question club top management authority here, or you get bullied 

foxestalk members will  punch the air and fight windmills, instead of questioning club wrongdoings 

 

Thank you tsintskaro for the advice. Guess I'll have to roll with it! 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

2 hours ago, smudger63 said:

It would, and it's great that we have a modern state of the art training ground, but  anyone who thinks that a player will base his decision to join the club on how good a training ground is, is deluded. A player will look at the club, the ambition and momentum of the club. Are they a club on the rise or a club on the slide. Are they going to be competing in the top half or the bottom half of a table. In terms of the best kids being recruited into academys, although I'm sure they will be impressed with the training ground, ultimately it will be about the status of the club, and their reputation for young players progressing.  The training ground will be a bonus, but not the most important thing to a player, or a parent of a young kid with talent. There was a lot of talk when we built the training ground saying it would help us attract better players, but that was tosh, the clubs status, and ambitions are what attracts players, as well as a big wad of cash of course

In a nutshell, it was a vanity project That as you said does not push the club forward on the pitch.

[sacreblueits442]

11 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

In a nutshell, it was a vanity project That as you said does not push the club forward on the pitch.

...it is very much long term planning!!!

  A £27m acquisition turned into a £450m asset, it is good business, and although in the short term we will not see the immediate benefit, recruiting the right people to staff and run it will save us money in the end.

  Many knowledgeable posters have stated it is a way for us to try to compete with the big boys in this league,  and we do have a good crop of academy students coming through. We need someone with a vision, know how, with a network of scouts to make this all work, it is certainly not a vanity project.

[goose2010]

30 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

In a nutshell, it was a vanity project That as you said does not push the club forward on the pitch.

a vanity project honest at this point reading your posts I'm not sure if you are just out to wind people up.

 

We out of the whole premier league have been one of the best at bringing youth through to the first team squad. 

 

That is what young players will be looking for. They want the best opportunity to play first team football. 

 

Chillwell, Barnes, KDH, Thomas probably the 4 most successful players to come through the academy and if were sold today would raise over 120m with us already having 50m of that from Chillwell. 

 

I cant see how anyone can blame the club for Seagrave. Other that just being thick or on the wind up. 

[AKCJ]

2 hours ago, smudger63 said:

It would, and it's great that we have a modern state of the art training ground, but  anyone who thinks that a player will base his decision to join the club on how good a training ground is, is deluded. A player will look at the club, the ambition and momentum of the club. Are they a club on the rise or a club on the slide. 

Are we considered a club on the slide due to one poor season out of our last 3?

 

Ask anyone but Leicester fans and they'll tell you what an ambitious, forward-thinking and modern football club we are with the only serious chance of breaking the Sky Sports Super League 6. Not sure what it is about our fanbase that's so utterly negative at every single thing.

 

Of course players look at things like our training ground. Why on Earth wouldn't they? It's Sky Sports that brainwashes people into thinking there is nothing out there for teams outside the elite they've created and branded.

[AKCJ]

41 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

In a nutshell, it was a vanity project That as you said does not push the club forward on the pitch.

World class training ground is a vanity project? **** me. Every club outside a handful would have your arm off to have the facilities we have. Absolutely perfect conditions to create and improve top class footballers.

[SemperEadem]

Genuine question on the training ground. What facilities does it have that other clubs don't? A golf course maybe?

 

To me it looks like any other training facility just possibly somewhat bigger than many.

Edited 18 August 2022 by SemperEadem

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 hours ago, smudger63 said:

It would, and it's great that we have a modern state of the art training ground, but  anyone who thinks that a player will base his decision to join the club on how good a training ground is, is deluded. A player will look at the club, the ambition and momentum of the club. Are they a club on the rise or a club on the slide. Are they going to be competing in the top half or the bottom half of a table. In terms of the best kids being recruited into academys, although I'm sure they will be impressed with the training ground, ultimately it will be about the status of the club, and their reputation for young players progressing.  The training ground will be a bonus, but not the most important thing to a player, or a parent of a young kid with talent. There was a lot of talk when we built the training ground saying it would help us attract better players, but that was tosh, the clubs status, and ambitions are what attracts players, as well as a big wad of cash of course

 

44 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said:

In a nutshell, it was a vanity project That as you said does not push the club forward on the pitch.

Absolute tosh I'm afraid.

 

Makes the commute easier for players, especially those coming in from the north. They can also buy/rent their nice house near the training ground now rather than 45 minutes away as before. If we're competing against other sound clubs then this will be a factor in picking us over them, as they'll be there 4/5 times a week. The facilities are genuinely world class, how can anyone not be interested or excited to work there? 99% of people will be.

 

Yeah if a big club like Chelsea comes in for a player and it's us vs. them, the training ground won't make much of a difference, but then we'll have to spin playing time and further your career vs. money and potentiall trophies (from the bench) now.

 

None of us could have predicted COVID or maybe they'd have done things slightly different.

[AKCJ]

3 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Genuine question on the training ground. What facilities does it have that other clubs don't? A golf court maybe?

 

To me it looks like any other training facility just possibly somewhat bigger than many,

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Ignoring the fact that the training ground does have a lot of things that others don't (cryotherapy units, state of the art gyms, pools etc) it being 'somewhat bigger' (it's absolutely massive compared to others) is a massive advantage. The club prepares pitches to mimic the pitches we're due to play on in terms of size, grass length and I'm fairly sure they alter the soil composition too.

 

We have 14 full sized pitches ready for the academy, the development squad and the first team. Having all three train so close to each other has to be a good thing for player development. 

 

Think of it this way, a businessman could set up his laptop on the floor and pile up his paper work around him yet successful businessmen have fancy offices with comfortable chairs, expensive mahogany desks, computers/laptops that run perfectly, a great view out of their windows etc. 

All because that impresses potential clients.

 

In our case can you imagine a Mother and Father being shown around Seagrave because Leicester City want to sign their teenage son? How could they not be impressed?

 

Compare that feeling to how those families would view these;