Stadium Expansion *APPROVED* Sept ‘22 - Details / Images Released on Planning Site

[davieG]

13 minutes ago, TheLittleBigMan said:

Very useful info on the nuts and bolts of how the process works. May I ask if this S106 settlement, its cash donation is legally bound in terms of where the money has to go? Like it can't disappear down the back of the couch or spent on new cycle lane in Ashby Magna.

 

I read a few times in the Merc where the cash from a S106 has not been used.

[iancognito]

4 hours ago, Webbo said:

Surely it's not the club funding this but Kingpower?

 

The hotel and apartment block will be to generate profits for them,the clubs position shouldn't be a consideration.

Yes, that's how it's always been laid out in any information about funding etc and the loans applied for it with Macquarie Group. King Power put the money into the development, the hotel etc has their name on it, they expand the brand. This is why they're putting the emphasis on self sustainability. Extra income, extra revenue from the capacity, venues, hospitality etc

 

I keep pointing out to anyone making half-baked comments about buying players instead that it was never either/or. Seagrave helps supply more youth players, better pitches and all the rest, the development helps fund future signings. Relegation or not they'll plough on with it because it's vital for us to sustain ourselves without a sugar daddy.

[davieG]

The county and city councils will be holding special meetings next week following the death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. But all other public meetings due to take place over the 10-day mourning period will be postponed or cancelled by Leicestershire's councils including a potential decision on the King Power Stadium's redevelopment.

Leicestershire County Council will be holding special meeting at County Hall, at 2pm on Tuesday, September 13 which a spokesperson for the council has said will be to pay tribute to The Queen. It will be livestreamed by the council.

Leicester City Council will also be holding a special meeting on Tuesday at 5pm at the Town Hall. But aside from that calendars have been cleared.

 

Among the meetings which will be not be going ahead next week is the city council’s planning committee meeting to debate the proposed extension to Leicester City's King Power stadium. Leicestershire County Council was also set to give an update on its financial situation after it announced difficulties earlier in the year.

The postponement of these meetings is in line with national guidance.

[davieG]

Just now, davieG said:

The county and city councils will be holding special meetings next week following the death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. But all other public meetings due to take place over the 10-day mourning period will be postponed or cancelled by Leicestershire's councils including a potential decision on the King Power Stadium's redevelopment.

Leicestershire County Council will be holding special meeting at County Hall, at 2pm on Tuesday, September 13 which a spokesperson for the council has said will be to pay tribute to The Queen. It will be livestreamed by the council.

Leicester City Council will also be holding a special meeting on Tuesday at 5pm at the Town Hall. But aside from that calendars have been cleared.

 

Among the meetings which will be not be going ahead next week is the city council’s planning committee meeting to debate the proposed extension to Leicester City's King Power stadium. Leicestershire County Council was also set to give an update on its financial situation after it announced difficulties earlier in the year.

The postponement of these meetings is in line with national guidance.

So why Council Meetings and not all other Business Meetings, It's their jobs, were not stopping all other business from operating are we?

[sacreblueits442]

5 hours ago, los dedos said:

Yea that's the way I took it . One of the ways to diversify the business. As they look to not rely on Duty free.

...it does not add up with the loans we have taken out!!!

The expansion and other buildings would be funded in the same way as Seagrave, continuing with the self-sufficient policy.

[Terraloon]

1 hour ago, TheLittleBigMan said:

Very useful info on the nuts and bolts of how the process works. May I ask if this S106 settlement, its cash donation is legally bound in terms of where the money has to go? Like it can't disappear down the back of the couch or spent on new cycle lane in Ashby Magna.

 

The simple answer is no 

 

S106 winds me up terrible because quite often the sum agreed is allocated to a project or whatever in another location 

[TheLittleBigMan]

Just now, Terraloon said:

The simple answer is no 

 

S106 winds me up terrible because quite often the sum agreed is allocated to a project or whatever in another location 

Typical. Lots of public pressure might help somewhat but you just know we won't find out what the settlement is and where its been allocated before its already been spent. 

[ajthefox]

4 hours ago, Terraloon said:

Small developments or developments that aren’t going to turn a decent profit will get exemption in terms affordable housing and councils vary but as a minimum in Leicester it is set at 15% 

The planners will be negotiating what is called a S106 settlement. This will be a significant cash donation to the area / council and used for infrastructure 

Gaining planning consent is just one step of a long and complex journey. It will be interesting to see what the requirements are in terms of which part is built first and how it’s  going to be funded.

This isn’t going to be straight forward and it will be interesting to see how the cost v benefits shifts as inflation bites

In my experience 15% is low nationally, typically it's closer to 25% affordable, if not more.

 

I should've been clearer but yes this doesnt apply to every single development, I was generalising re big residential.

 

If it's only a few units the constraints will make the financing more difficult so there has to be flexibility, but I would also add that the S106 set up is far from ideal when all of our councils planning departments have had their funding absolutely hammered.

 

The S106 is essentially a bribe in some cases and it's a viscous cycle because it only exacerbates our housing unaffordability and lines the pockets of the wealthy ones at the top. 

 

I digress though. And I agree it will be interesting to see what the conditions are and how it all pans out long term.

 

 

[davieG]

Expanding the ground and how it can affect revenues, we're obviously not in the same financial league as Liverpool but I assume the affect would be similar.

 

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fsg-80m-club-record-24984920

 

Liverpool decision that prompted FSG's £80m plan and will lead to new club record

It's five years since the redeveloped Main Stand saw its first Liverpool game as record attendance was set

 

By

Dave Powell

19:00, 10 SEP 2022

 

When Liverpool welcomed Leicester City to Anfield on September 10, 2016, it would be a game that would draw the biggest home crowd for the Reds for some 40 years.

A crowd of 53,075 were in attendance for the clash against the Foxes, the largest to have been inside Anfield since the Reds hosted West Ham United on May 14, 1977, when the congregation stood at 55,675.

It was a game that marked the opening of the redeveloped Main Stand at Anfield, a development that owners Fenway Sports Group saw from early on as vital to raising revenues at the club, both on matchdays and commercially.

 

Plans for the expansion were revealed in 2014, the aim to add another 8,500 seats to help satisfy the enormous demand for tickets as well as to offer a vastly improved hospitality offering that would deliver significant revenue uplifts. It wouldn't be cheap, though, with the work, which started in December 2014, costing around £114m. The work was done around the existing structure of the Main Stand to ensure that it remained fully operational during the 2015/16 season.

 

The Main Stand, at 20,500 one of the biggest single all-seater stands in European football, has played a significant part in rising Liverpool revenues in recent years.

When FSG took over as Reds owners in 2010 from Tom Hicks and George Gillett they looked into the feasibility of moving to a new stadium before swiftly landing on redevelopment of what they already had being the best course of action.

In 2015/16 set of financial accounts published by Liverpool, matchday revenue stood at £62.4m. The following accounting period, 2016/1, saw matchday revenues at £73.5m, an increase of almost 18 per cent year on year. According to forecasts for the 2021/22 accounting period by analysts at respected sports business website Off The Pitch, the matchday revenues could reach as much as £89.7m. That represents a 44 per cent rise since the Main Stand's completion.

The year FSG took over the matchday revenue stood at £40.9m, meaning that it has more than doubled over the last 10 years against a capacity increase of around 18 per cent.

The success of the redevelopment from a financial perspective is easy to see, and its success emboldened FSG to press ahead with their plans for the redevelopment of the Anfield Road end, a move that will increase capacity to 61,000 and likely push Liverpool over the £100m mark for matchday revenues, something that only Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur are likely to be able to do over the next couple of seasons.

 

The Anfield Road work is slightly different to what was undertaken with the Main Stand. The firm who are carrying out the construction, Buckingham, will follow on from what Carillion did with the Main Stand and construct around it to ensure it remains operational and doesn't impact revenue streams, with the steel framework having been in place for some time and the work taking shape with each passing month.

Where the Main Stand, phase one of FSG's redevelopment plan, was seen as being a development to ensure that the club were mirroring off the pitch what they wanted to achieve on it, with the aesthetics particularly key, the Anfield Road redevelopment is likely to be more functional, its aim to satisfy the demand for tickets to the greatest extent they can, and adding another 7,000 seats will certainly go a long way to doing that.

There will be improved conferencing and hospitality within the development, but the improvements are also being done to try and raise revenues through food and beverage sales from the concourse. Finding ways to monetise the stadium away from matchdays is also part of the plan.

It is an £80m redevelopment that is set to be completed in time for the 2023/24 campaign, although the final touches to the work next summer means that there won't be any music concerts at Anfield until the following year.

When completed it will mean that Liverpool will break their attendance record at the start of next season, and with the need to keep pushing revenues forward to allow for the preference of a sustainable business to thrive, it will be another key piece of ensuring that happens.

"The construction timelines we have set of 18 months are aggressive but we are heading in the right direction and we are on budget and on schedule," Liverpool CEO Billy Hogan told the August edition of FC Business magazine.

"We have always been clear about the importance of investing in Anfield and this expansion will allow us to improve the fan experience for our supporters.

"One of the new aspects of the expansion will be an underground fan zone that supporters can enjoy even if the weather is poor. Of course, we will also be able to have more fans in for concerts and other non-football events too, which will bring in additional income.

“As a self-sustaining club, we need to generate as much revenue as we can to continue reinvesting in the team and infrastructure."

[davieG]

Planning meeting going ahead on the 14th

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/decision-due-leicester-city-plans-7572714

 

Plans to expand Leicester City’s King Power Stadium and create a new hotel will be heard by planners next week. The Queen’s death has caused sweeping changes to council meetings with many being cancelled, but planning meetings will still take place says Leicester City Council.

The proposals will be heard in two parts on Wednesday (September 14), with planners on the city council’s Planning and Development Control Committee set to look over plans for 8,000 extra seats for the King Power Stadium’s East Stand. Wider proposals to create a new hotel in the area surrounding the stadium and a 6,000 seater indoor arena will also be discussed.

Planners will hear how the football club plans to add a new upper tier to the King Power Stadium’s East Stand - a move that would take the ground’s capacity to around 40,000 people. This would be built on land currently used as an assembly point for spectators, with the expansion also wrapping around the stadium’s North and South stands.

 

The second phase of proposals are yet to be fully outlined, but would see the construction of a 220-bed hotel and a 20-storey block of flats. A new club shop and indoor arena with a capacity of 6,000 spectators - twice the capacity of the Morningside Arena and around three times the size of De Montfort Hall - to host non-sporting events would be created too and situated east of the King Power Stadium, close to Raw Dykes Road.

Concerns have been raised by some about the impact on parking in the area if the plans were to go ahead, while pollution fears were mentioned. However, those in favour of the scheme believe it would bring more people to the city and offer more supporters the chance to watch the Foxes in action.

Both phases of the proposals are recommended for approval by city council bosses. The meeting takes place on Wednesday (September 14).

[Warks_Mackem]

It looks fantastic. I visited the King Power for the first time in June whilst attending a friend’s wedding and was very impressed.

[CosbehFox]

Just read how there are a few stadiums which have removed their ETFE facade as the maintenance of it was worthless/expensive. FC Basel's St Jakob Park being one. 

[StanSP]

7 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Just read how there are a few stadiums which have removed their ETFE facade as the maintenance of it was worthless/expensive. FC Basel's St Jakob Park being one. 

What's the ETFE facade? 

[purpleronnie]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

What's the ETFE facade? 

The bubble wrap stuff around the stand.  It's like J-lo...looks great but high maintenance.

[moore_94]

No sure whether this is new info or not
 

https://www.building.co.uk/news/orourke-in-the-frame-as-foxes-stadium-expansion-set-for-kick-off/5119221.article
 

Plans to expand Leicester City’s football stadium are set to be approved with Laing O’Rourke being lined up to carry out the job, Building understands.

 

Planning officers at the city council have recommended councillors give the green light to the redevelopment proposals, which would bring the King Power Stadium’s capacity up to 40,000 seats

 

A report to council members said the redevelopment would help the East Midlands club, currently languishing at the bottom of the Premier League table, “remain competitive” within the competition.

Edited 13 September 2022 by moore_94

[urban.spaceman]

3 hours ago, moore_94 said:

No sure whether this is new info or not
 

https://www.building.co.uk/news/orourke-in-the-frame-as-foxes-stadium-expansion-set-for-kick-off/5119221.article
 

Plans to expand Leicester City’s football stadium are set to be approved with Laing O’Rourke being lined up to carry out the job, Building understands.

 

Planning officers at the city council have recommended councillors give the green light to the redevelopment proposals, which would bring the King Power Stadium’s capacity up to 40,000 seats

 

A report to council members said the redevelopment would help the East Midlands club, currently languishing at the bottom of the Premier League table, “remain competitive” within the competition.

I don't like those quote marks they seem aggressive.

[K1Keith]

Does anyone know how to join the webinar tomorrow? is it invite only or can anyone join. Thanks.

[jammie82uk]

New comment added to the application 

https://planning.leicester.gov.uk/Document/Download?module=PLA&recordNumber=170045&planId=704050&imageId=605&isPlan=False&fileName=Public Comment 13-09-2022 -Redacted.pdf

 

I will be requesting at the Planning Committee that the proposed planning conditions 15 and 16 will be amended to the following: 15. .with the exception of the Hotel and the Residential Tower . Including parameter plans and further details in relation to the built form of the Hotel and the Residential Tower . 16. .including updated parameter plans and further details in relation to the built form of the Hotel and the Residential Tower.

[jammie82uk]

49 minutes ago, K1Keith said:

Does anyone know how to join the webinar tomorrow? is it invite only or can anyone join. Thanks.

anyone can watch, Go to this link 

 

https://cabinet.leicester.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=399&MId=11959

click on view the webcast 

 

 

[TrentFox]

5 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

I don't like those quote marks they seem aggressive.

Maybe we should sign them and get them to play in centre-midfield? 

[Spudulike]

2 hours ago, jammie82uk said:

New comment added to the application 

https://planning.leicester.gov.uk/Document/Download?module=PLA&recordNumber=170045&planId=704050&imageId=605&isPlan=False&fileName=Public Comment 13-09-2022 -Redacted.pdf

 

I will be requesting at the Planning Committee that the proposed planning conditions 15 and 16 will be amended to the following: 15. .with the exception of the Hotel and the Residential Tower . Including parameter plans and further details in relation to the built form of the Hotel and the Residential Tower . 16. .including updated parameter plans and further details in relation to the built form of the Hotel and the Residential Tower.

No idea what that means. I'd have thought the window for public comments was closed long ago. The approval for the hotel and residential tower is in outline only. Updated plans will be needed when it goes to a full planning application. 

[UHDrive]

38 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

No idea what that means. I'd have thought the window for public comments was closed long ago. The approval for the hotel and residential tower is in outline only. Updated plans will be needed when it goes to a full planning application. 

It's the planning discharge of conditions.

 

It seemed to me contentious in the early stages about lack of detail for the hotel and residential tower instead of leaving them within the outline consent. With sites like this with varying differences of building uses etc it is not surprising that they have conditioned this. 

 

It means - yes you can have planning approval (given), but only if you provide detailed design drawings and visualisations for approval under the planning consent for conditions 15 and 16. (submission and approvals such as this rarely hold up build schedules)

[davieG]

6 minutes ago, UHDrive said:

It's the planning discharge of conditions.

 

It seemed to me contentious in the early stages about lack of detail for the hotel and residential tower instead of leaving them within the outline consent. With sites like this with varying differences of building uses etc it is not surprising that they have conditioned this. 

 

It means - yes you can have planning approval (given), but only if you provide detailed design drawings and visualisations for approval under the planning consent for conditions 15 and 16. (submission and approvals such as this rarely hold up build schedules)

Haven't they said they need approval for the whole site before they go ahead with it so wont they need that outline plan approval?

[UHDrive]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

Haven't they said they need approval for the whole site before they go ahead with it so wont they need that outline plan approval?

It's a bit scewed but planning doesn't work that way. If it was a full reserved matters for example (for the hotel and residential) then they'd need to supply the LA with quite detailed plans anyway before a consent is given. 

 

I found it odd when it was done as a hybrid application due to the many different types of commercial/residential/hospitality/recreational sporting facilities and so on. There are too many items pushed to one side under the outline with the stadium 🏟 only under the full app. 

 

I heard rumours at the beginning of the designs that KP had done some work on the residential and hotel through their architects but nothing whatsoever since then. It's no surprise that local councillors and others have drawn down with complaints and queries to the planning officer under the development as a whole with a lack of detail and vague visualisations.

[urban.spaceman]

Today's the day then