Scotch Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 25 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Kasper doesn't have to follower orders , its not the army. He is the captain and he should determine play the way he thinks is best. You don't ACTUALLY believe that do you? He's the captain of the club BECAUSE Rodgers can trust him to follow orders. I mean, sure. Every now and again he could play it long and justify it with he thought there was to much pressure on the defence to play it short and I'm certain it would be fine because of the trust he has from Rodgers but if he or ANY captain was just to completely disregard team instructions from their manager because he thinks he knows better, he wouldn't be on the pitch, much less have a captains armband on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bert Posted 5 December 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 5 December 2021 We need a fast start. Get in their faces, get the crowd on their back. Rather than being too predictable and too easy to play against. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 13 minutes ago, Scotch said: You don't ACTUALLY believe that do you? He's the captain of the club BECAUSE Rodgers can trust him to follow orders. I mean, sure. Every now and again he could play it long and justify it with he thought there was to much pressure on the defence to play it short and I'm certain it would be fine because of the trust he has from Rodgers but if he or ANY captain was just to completely disregard team instructions from their manager because he thinks he knows better, he wouldn't be on the pitch, much less have a captains armband on. Any football match needs thinking outside of the tactical box. You have a broad strategy but you have to improvise when you can see an advantage doing so. Predictability is major weakness in teams. Rodgers job is to prepare them but once the match starts the players take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 Just now, An Sionnach said: Any football match needs thinking outside of the tactical box. You have a broad strategy but you have to improvise when you can see an advantage doing so. Predictability is major weakness in teams. Rodgers job is to prepare them but once the match starts the players take over. Like I said, if Kasper sees the odd thing on the pitch, he would be justified in going against the general orders. I,e, if he saw Vardy in space I'm sure it's fine for him to knock it long but in general, he still has to follow orders and instructions from his manager. If he was instructed to play it short and ignored that to continuously go long, Rodgers wouldn't be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterpool Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 Foot in both camps.. Marc Albrighton Simon Grayson Kevin Phillips Julian joachim Dion Dublin Lee Hendrie Stefan Moore Stuart Taylor Nolberto Solano Curtis Davies Darius Vassell Emile Heskey Tom Cleverley Nathan Delfouenso Martin O'Neill Brian Little Craig Shakespeare Gary McAllister Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXSE Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 Just now, Leicesterpool said: Foot in both camps.. Marc Albrighton Simon Grayson Kevin Phillips Julian joachim Dion Dublin Lee Hendrie Stefan Moore Stuart Taylor Nolberto Solano Curtis Davies Darius Vassell Emile Heskey Tom Cleverley Nathan Delfouenso Martin O'Neill Brian Little Craig Shakespeare Gary McAllister Anyone else? Mark draper.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 1 minute ago, Leicesterpool said: Foot in both camps.. Marc Albrighton Simon Grayson Kevin Phillips Julian joachim Dion Dublin Lee Hendrie Stefan Moore Stuart Taylor Nolberto Solano Curtis Davies Darius Vassell Emile Heskey Tom Cleverley Nathan Delfouenso Martin O'Neill Brian Little Craig Shakespeare Gary McAllister Anyone else? Drinkwater... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 6 minutes ago, Scotch said: Rodgers wouldn't be happy. That's the thing , Rodgers can't play the game for them. In truth every one of our players is more experienced at playing the game than him. Ranieri is quoted as saying ,most of the onfield play was determined by the players themselves. Klopp is another one who let's his players and particularly Henderson make the decisions themselves. Rodgers can point things out from the touchline and adjust the strategy but in the heat of the game its the players who make the decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Thought you'd be too busy blowing bubble after yesterday admission? I take it sarcasm isn't one of your strengths? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 40 minutes ago, Scotch said: You don't ACTUALLY believe that do you? He's the captain of the club BECAUSE Rodgers can trust him to follow orders. I mean, sure. Every now and again he could play it long and justify it with he thought there was to much pressure on the defence to play it short and I'm certain it would be fine because of the trust he has from Rodgers but if he or ANY captain was just to completely disregard team instructions from their manager because he thinks he knows better, he wouldn't be on the pitch, much less have a captains armband on. I’m reading your twos arguement in Jack Nicholsons voice from A Few Good Men 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 Just now, Ric Flair said: I take it sarcasm isn't one of your strengths? I just thought you came over with a passion for claret....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 1 minute ago, coolhandfox said: I just thought you came over with a passion for claret....... Big fan of the dildo brothers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 Is today the day, we finally keep a clean sheet ?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 1 hour ago, UHDrive said: Schmeichel Amartey Evans Soyuncu Castagne Thomas Ndidi KDH Maddison Iheanacho Daka Even with high pressing teams like Chelsea we've still been struggling by attempting to play 2 pivots in centre mid. It doesn't appear to suit our style. I would rather we try to stay as much to our true identity as possible I.e attack link up play, whilst essentially having the ability to form as a back 5 with villa's high press. For me, BR's comments mid week about our slow starts and leaking goals should give the team a kick up the rear end anyway. 1-2. ....memories of Puel, where he constantly stated the players were failing to do what he was asking of them!!! We do not want to go to a back three, we do not have to employ that formation, except in certain circumstances (Man. City etc). We are not good at playing in that way, and it comes down to the Wingback positions. We play them too high up the pitch and ask far too much, of the players elected to play the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remember Kember Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 22 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: Foot in both camps.. Marc Albrighton Simon Grayson Kevin Phillips Julian joachim Dion Dublin Lee Hendrie Stefan Moore Stuart Taylor Nolberto Solano Curtis Davies Darius Vassell Emile Heskey Tom Cleverley Nathan Delfouenso Martin O'Neill Brian Little Craig Shakespeare Gary McAllister Anyone else? Davie Gibson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarles Barkley Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 2 minutes ago, Sly said: Is today the day, we finally keep a clean sheet ?!? No chance. Not happening until our annual 0-0 draw with wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox85 Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 2 hours ago, reynard said: Just wondering what you would have Brendan and the lads stack if they lose? First of all I'd stop telling them that they over achieved. I'd be telling them they are where they are on merit and they need to prove the doubters wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 47 minutes ago, Scotch said: You don't ACTUALLY believe that do you? He's the captain of the club BECAUSE Rodgers can trust him to follow orders. I mean, sure. Every now and again he could play it long and justify it with he thought there was to much pressure on the defence to play it short and I'm certain it would be fine because of the trust he has from Rodgers but if he or ANY captain was just to completely disregard team instructions from their manager because he thinks he knows better, he wouldn't be on the pitch, much less have a captains armband on. ...you do get the feeling that it would be good if someone elected to do so, because they are frustrated with what they are seeing at the moment!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remember Kember Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 3 minutes ago, Remember Kember said: Davie Gibson The Doog!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve555 Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 26 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said: Foot in both camps.. Marc Albrighton Simon Grayson Kevin Phillips Julian joachim Dion Dublin Lee Hendrie Stefan Moore Stuart Taylor Nolberto Solano Curtis Davies Darius Vassell Emile Heskey Tom Cleverley Nathan Delfouenso Martin O'Neill Brian Little Craig Shakespeare Gary McAllister Anyone else? Andy Lochead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 11 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: That's the thing , Rodgers can't play the game for them. In truth every one of our players is more experienced at playing the game than him. Ranieri is quoted as saying ,most of the onfield play was determined by the players themselves. Klopp is another one who let's his players and particularly Henderson make the decisions themselves. Rodgers can point things out from the touchline and adjust the strategy but in the heat of the game its the players who make the decisions. Again, having freedom on the pitch doesn't equate to completely disregarding manager instructions and doing the opposite. This started by someone saying that they reckon Kasper can't wait to stop playing short and you replied with something along the lines of "he doesn't have to if he doesn't want to because he's captain" which is utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 2 minutes ago, Remember Kember said: Davie Gibson Mark Bunn Kevin Poole Gary Charles Colin Gibson Allan Evans Simon Grayson Ritchie De Laet Martin Keown Riccardo Scimeca Steve Sims Mark Draper Joey Gudjonsson Marc Albrighton David Gibson Franz Carr Danny Drinkwater Andy Lochhead Derek Dougan Julian Joachim Stan Collymore Dion Dublin Ian Ormondroyd Graham Fenton Nathan Delfouneso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...you do get the feeling that it would be good if someone elected to do so, because they are frustrated with what they are seeing at the moment!!! I can't disagree with that but I do garentee that, that player wouldn't be made captain by Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 33 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Any football match needs thinking outside of the tactical box. You have a broad strategy but you have to improvise when you can see an advantage doing so. Predictability is major weakness in teams. Rodgers job is to prepare them but once the match starts the players take over. Just wish he would kick it a long way from his box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneticerror Posted 5 December 2021 Share Posted 5 December 2021 14 minutes ago, Sly said: Is today the day, we finally keep a clean sheet ?!? Doubt it. But it would be bloody nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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