winteriscoming Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 19 minutes ago, deep blue said: Perhaps because you didn't watch it? I did watch it and imo he was ok. Nothing more nothing less. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winteriscoming Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 1 minute ago, Lcfc098 said: Was our best player with Maddison in the second half? Maddison was. Kdh wasn’t imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc098 Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Maddison was. Kdh wasn’t imo. Fair enough. Thought he added that extra bit of energy we needed that soumare was lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 4 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Maddison was. Kdh wasn’t imo. I agree with everything you've said about KDH. He did ok when he came on but he gave the ball away an awful lot. He was OK but not great. He was an improvement on Soumare but that's not really a ringing endorsement as he was a passenger. Its not a criticism of the lad, he's young and learning. He did OK but some people on here seem to favour certain players, especially homegrown players. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakemoore Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 Can’t wait to sit on the train for 4 hours to watch us get beaten by Villa again. This will be my third visit to Villa Park - I haven’t seen us win there yet, that includes 2016 unbelievably. Not feeling confident because we can’t defend. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaijaFox Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 Surprised that Vardy started tonight's game... In retrospect, Daka should have started and Vardy subbed-in if necessary. Also, playing Vardy and Daka together does not really seem to click... If I was making that substitution tonight, it would have been Nacho instead of Daka. Against Villa we should be trying for only our second PL clean sheet.. And as dodgy as we usually have been playing 3ATB, we really haven't been better with 4ATB. Kasper Castagne Amartey Evans Soyuncu Thomas Ndidi KDH/Soumare Maddison Barnes (Nacho) Vardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaijaFox Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 4 minutes ago, Jakemoore said: Can’t wait to sit on the train for 4 hours to watch us get beaten by Villa again. This will be my third visit to Villa Park - I haven’t seen us win there yet, that includes 2016 unbelievably. Not feeling confident because we can’t defend. Simple as that. Law of averages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 8 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: I agree with everything you've said about KDH. He did ok when he came on but he gave the ball away an awful lot. He was OK but not great. He was an improvement on Soumare but that's not really a ringing endorsement as he was a passenger. Its not a criticism of the lad, he's young and learning. He did OK but some people on here seem to favour certain players, especially homegrown players. Misplaced 5 passes, completed all his dribbles, wasn’t dispossessed at all, 1 inaccurate long ball Not an awful lot of losing the ball for 45 minutes Won the ball more than he lost it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 1 minute ago, moore_94 said: Misplaced 5 passes, completed all his dribbles, wasn’t dispossessed at all, 1 inaccurate long ball Not an awful lot of losing the ball for 45 minutes Won the ball more than he lost it Fair enough, just felt like he gave the ball away cheaply when we were in good positions but also a couple of times in our own half. Like I said, he did OK. Nothing amazing but was better than Soumare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim5000 Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 If we can get to 20 minutes in without conceding then we're improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 3 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: Fair enough, just felt like he gave the ball away cheaply when we were in good positions but also a couple of times in our own half. Like I said, he did OK. Nothing amazing but was better than Soumare I dont mind if he gives the ball away a couple of times if he keeps progressing play otherwise. That's what I wanna see Soumare do more. Kiki came on and immediately started to try and progress the ball into the attacking third be that through dribbling or passing. With Bouba it was mostly sideways and backwards passes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamble92 Posted 1 December 2021 Share Posted 1 December 2021 22 minutes ago, Jakemoore said: Can’t wait to sit on the train for 4 hours to watch us get beaten by Villa again. This will be my third visit to Villa Park - I haven’t seen us win there yet, that includes 2016 unbelievably. Not feeling confident because we can’t defend. Simple as that. Where you coming from? The moon? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 Think we'll get a result bit surely we'll be resting a couple for the Napoli game? Schmeichel Castagne Soyuncu Evans Thomas Ndidi KDH Albrighton Perez Barnes Daka Iheanacho does love a goal vs Villa though, could we get him and Daka in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 35 minutes ago, Jakemoore said: Can’t wait to sit on the train for 4 hours to watch us get beaten by Villa again. This will be my third visit to Villa Park - I haven’t seen us win there yet, that includes 2016 unbelievably. Not feeling confident because we can’t defend. Simple as that. Missed 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 Need to freshen it up in the middle of the park. Think KDH has earned a starting berth in my opinion. Have normally done well in the past playing two strikers at Villa. Perhaps Kell back in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 We've defended no better with 4 at the back than 3, but we are scoring goals and are looking creative again. I'd much rather do this than try and pass it around our defence for 90 minutes and concede goals anyway. I don't like Castagne and Thomas as wing backs and think that (the injured) Ricardo and Justin are much more adept in those roles. Evans (if fit) and Soyuncu probably have to start again as Vesty isn't really an option. Amartey isn't far behind Caglar on form, but the latter probably has the edge in a four. Midfield is harder. The absence of Youri leaves a hole the size of Belgium to fill. I'm not fully convinced by Soumare or KDH, but it feels like we may as well give KDH a chance -and - besides his song to the Wonderwall tune amuses me. Barnes is out of form, but his direct running still makes defenders shi t themselves. He stays for me. Maddison is returning to the kind of form, which makes that early season hate he received from certain posters look even more ridiculous than it was at the time of posting. Lookman is another stopgap loan - so I'd put Ayoze back in despite his limitations. Can Vardy play 3 games in close succession or should we look after him? Maybe we should give him a rest and hope that Daka continues to make progress. In Summary: Kasper Castagne, Evans, Soyuncu, Thomas Ndidi, KDH Ayoze, Maddison, Barnes Daka .... although, to be fair to Brendan, with 9 games in 28 days it may just be a case of looking around and seeing who is fit enough to plough through. And let's hope that one or two return to fitness along the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim5000 Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 Think it's fair to say it's not happening this season. The summer signings have flopped (apart from Daka), we can't find any form outside the odd patch, and we can't stop giving away cheap goals. It doesn't seem to matter what system Rodgers' tries, our patterns of play remain the same. Villa are resurgent under a new manager and I wouldn't be suprised to see them stop our mini run of not losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jim5000 said: Think it's fair to say it's not happening this season. The summer signings have flopped (apart from Daka), we can't find any form outside the odd patch, and we can't stop giving away cheap goals. It doesn't seem to matter what system Rodgers' tries, our patterns of play remain the same. Villa are resurgent under a new manager and I wouldn't be suprised to see them stop our mini run of not losing. Part of me thinks that, but you look at the table and it's crying out for someone to make a run for the places 4-6. There are 3 very good teams, 3 or 4 poor ones and everyone else is just a bit: "meh!" It's a crying shame that Fofana, Justin and Ricardo aren't fit and firing. Add in a fit Tielemans and you've suddenly got a team that you wouldn't just be hoping to challenge top six, but you'd be expecting it. It's the hope that kills you ..... Edited 2 December 2021 by Jobyfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genesis1 Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 2 hours ago, moore_94 said: Do we try the diamond again? Would honestly bring both KDH and Choudhury in to try and pack that midfield and drop Soumare I always think games against teams like this and Burnley, you need Choudhury because you know he'll give as good as he gets. Loves a tackle and from the games I have seen him play recently, which is few, seems to have reeled in actually injuring people. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 I’d take a draw, but I have a feeling we will lose this one. Gerard will want to get one over Rodgers, Villa have a tasty front line, and we can’t defend for love nor money…. Im feeling a pretty nasty away day here, I fear we could get turned over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim5000 Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 12 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: Part of me thinks that, but you look at the table and it's crying out for someone to make a run for the places 4-6. There are 3 very good teams, 3 or 4 poor ones and everyone else is just a bit: "meh!" It's a crying shame that Fofana, Justin and Ricardo aren't fit and firing. Add in a fit Tielemans and you've suddenly got a team that you wouldn't just be hoping to challenge top six, but you'd be expecting it. It's the hope that kills you ..... It's a fair point. When so much of our attacking play comes from the wingbacks we really are suffering with the injuries to Justin and Richardo; Castagne, Thomas, and Betrand just aren't on the same level. Add in Fofana being out and we have lost a lot of what made us tick as a team last season and the replacements haven't been up to it. The problem is the expectation placed upon Justin and Fofana who will be coming back from long term, potentially career ending, injuries, and it will probably take them to at least the end of the season to recapture their pre-injury form and confidence. I think we really miss a fit Ricardo - he has the ability to be a game changer and turn draws into wins in tight games. I think before his injuries he was being heralded as one of the best right-backs in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 22 minutes ago, jim5000 said: Think it's fair to say it's not happening this season. The summer signings have flopped (apart from Daka), we can't find any form outside the odd patch, and we can't stop giving away cheap goals. It doesn't seem to matter what system Rodgers' tries, our patterns of play remain the same. Villa are resurgent under a new manager and I wouldn't be suprised to see them stop our mini run of not losing. ...can't say Rodgers has managed Vardy right, in giving him the full 90 minutes tonight!!! Could have given him 45 minutes for the next few games coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1FOX Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 0-2 Evans 34’ Barnes 67’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glebe_sydneyfox Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 This'll be a tasty one - I still think we will continue our slight uptick in form - second clean sheet of the season has to be around the corner... 0-2 with Nacho getting one of our goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bptiger Posted 2 December 2021 Share Posted 2 December 2021 I think we need 3 midfielders ndidi and soumare with Kdh playing the middle . We seem to be getting run over in the middle of the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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