Clappers

[Sol thewall Bamba]

10 hours ago, ealingfox said:

They should be opt-in. Leave a pile of them at each entrance and people who want one can take one. Probably use about a tenth the amount we do now.

The club said to us a couple of seasons ago that they would be going to collection only, yet here we still are.

 

They are ridiculous. No matter how hard you try and convince yourself, if Cov or Notts Forest had them you'd all be laughing your heads off and you know you would do. We're known throughout the country and a fanbase that uses some folded up cardboard to try and make some noise. 

 

5 million made fvck me, that is an absolutely heinous waste of resources.  

[Voll Blau]

36 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said:

I’ve just never understood a single reason why people like/want them. Why do we want to attempt to manufacture atmosphere? 

Because there are bods working at the club who are desperate to claim credit for absolutely anything that may be vaguely seen as positive to do with matchdays and how fans act. You can't put "let supporters create a good atmosphere on their own" on your CV, can you?

 

It's the same with goal music. "Facilitated transition of net-related jubilation scenarios from customer-led vociferation to designated recognition melody, in line with our corporate values" is definitely on someone's LinkedIn.

[Izzy]

10 hours ago, The whole world smiles said:

5 million clappers 

you'll never sing that

[MattFox]

Definitely less and less people using them every season

 

You could bin them off now and half the crowd wouldn’t even notice

Edited 3 December 2021 by MattFox

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, phoneticerror said:

Same with the print at home tickets. Such a waste of paper. Tbh, I’d happily pay 50p for a clapper for the boy for every home game if they scrapped the free ones and sold them at the programme stalls. 

You know what else is a waste, while we're on the subject, the fact I buy an away ticket and they then put an A4 sheet of paper in the same envelope to thank me and confirm I've bought the ticket.

Perhaps that's what the booking fee is for

Edited 3 December 2021 by Fox92

[Footballwipe]

Quite. Think I banged on about this in another thread, how the club can have no claim on their environmental credentials, whilst in that time they have manufactured FIVE MILLION clappers since 2015. Again, from printing, transportation and non-recycle they are colossal waste of time.

 

Rarity is in the joy of these. I hated them in the early 2010's when they bought them in, but at least they were novel for the odd big game (Watford playoffs at home?) and then when we stayed up, the atmosphere was raucous as it was, so it blended in with the noise.

 

Now, not only is the noise a drone, it's turned some of the fans into drones. Fans who can't do anything without slapping the cardboard against their hand. Using their hand... to slap a piece of cardboard... against their hand. We've needed to rip up how many trees, use how much ink and how much fuel to give people objects when their hands are good enough. Baffling.

[sacreblueits442]

35 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

We're known throughout the country and a fanbase that uses some folded up cardboard to try and make some noise. 

 

5 million made fvck me, that is an absolutely heinous waste of resources.  

...could the reason be due to the lack of atmosphere at the games!!!

  Could it be the club looking to retain the family image and this is for the kids.

  In the great scheme of things, we have a team in the top league competing (occasionally) with the best there is in the country, the decisions of the club has brought us here.

  If like the goal music this situation has become a pet peeve then contacting the club with your grievance would be the best policy. 

  The only short comings with the clappers would be your kids waving them excitedly in the faces of strangers and almost knocking their glasses off.

 Annoying as it may seem, it is good to see young kids getting excited about coming to games and laying the foundations for future support. 

 

[ren]

5 million units on something as tragic as clappers is an absolute disgrace. Would love some nerd at the club to be held accountable in the papers for it.

[Voll Blau]

6 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...could the reason be due to the lack of atmosphere at the games!!!

  Could it be the club looking to retain the family image and this is for the kids.

  In the great scheme of things, we have a team in the top league competing (occasionally) with the best there is in the country, the decisions of the club has brought us here.

  If like the goal music this situation has become a pet peeve then contacting the club with your grievance would be the best policy. 

  The only short comings with the clappers would be your kids waving them excitedly in the faces of strangers and almost knocking their glasses off.

 Annoying as it may seem, it is good to see young kids getting excited about coming to games and laying the foundations for future support. 

 

 

Honestly, this unquestioning devotion to any decision the club makes is absolutely baffling. While the club is well run overall, there's no question that plenty working there are counting their lucky stars that they just so happen to be doing so at a time when we're pretty good on the pitch and therefore anything they do is seen to contribute to that, whether it's relevant or not.

 

Children don't get excited about coming to games because of a piece of cardboard on their seat. They get excited because Leicester are, at the moment, one of the best clubs in the country, with famous players, who are playing against the best teams in the country and beyond. It's never been a better time to be a City fan in the school playground, wherever you live.

 

Anyone with half an ear open at games can tell you clappers don't add to the atmosphere, they actually stunt it. If people can't be heard singing over them then songs die out much quicker.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

I’m pro clappers. Big reason we stayed up in 14-15, and who knows where’d be without them, so I’d keep them just because of that.

 

Don’t get the hate for them - like it has to be a binary black/white issue like everything else in football. I understand the environmental aspect though.

[Mich-ol]

I sit in row E in SK1 and whenever we play badly or something doesn't go our way (every game recently lol),  the clappers are launched towards the pitch i get wacked in the head. I would be happy to see the back of them 

[RoboFox]

I couldn't give two fvcks about the usage of the clappers to generate atmosphere or not.

 

But if the 5 million figure is true, and there isn't a sustainable way of disposing of these things it's nothing short of a disgrace by the club. It's 2021 FFS, I'm genuinely ashamed. 

 

I really hope it isn't the case but if it is, serious questions need to be asked. 

[SemperEadem]

Yeah that 5 million figure is shameful.

[sacreblueits442]

20 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

 

Honestly, this unquestioning devotion to any decision the club makes is absolutely baffling. While the club is well run overall, there's no question that plenty working there are counting their lucky stars that they just so happen to be doing so at a time when we're pretty good on the pitch and therefore anything they do is seen to contribute to that, whether it's relevant or not.

 

Children don't get excited about coming to games because of a piece of cardboard on their seat. They get excited because Leicester are, at the moment, one of the best clubs in the country, with famous players, who are playing against the best teams in the country and beyond. It's never been a better time to be a City fan in the school playground, wherever you live.

 

Anyone with half an ear open at games can tell you clappers don't add to the atmosphere, they actually stunt it. If people can't be heard singing over them then songs die out much quicker.

...I  did say that it would be prudent to contact the club if you genuinely feel there is an issue!!!

  Posting on a forum is all very well to let off steam, but nothing  can happen, unless the club has been informed and have the chance to look at the concern.

  I personally enjoy being at the ground, the sound of clappers are not on my radar and goal music is also not a factor in dulling my entertainment, and for the time I  am in the ground my eyes are trained on what is happening on the pitch and not peripheral distractions.

[Foxin_Mad]

To be fair. Clappers are probably locally produced, and can be recycled (card).

 

For people suggesting other items. Clappers are probably better for the environment than yet more nylon or plastic tat imported from the far east made in a stinking factory and imported on a stinking container ship. Everyone seems to miss this point, we export our pollution to China and the oceans between and 99.9% of people are perfectly happy to continue buying stuff made there because its 'cheap'. There is zero point worrying about being green until we tackle this massive change in mindset. 

[Voll Blau]

2 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...I  did say that it would be prudent to contact the club if you genuinely feel there is an issue!!!

  Posting on a forum is all very well to let off steam, but nothing  can happen, unless the club has been informed and have the chance to look at the concern.

  I personally enjoy being at the ground, the sound of clappers are not on my radar and goal music is also not a factor in dulling my entertainment, and for the time I  am in the ground my eyes are trained on what is happening on the pitch and not peripheral distractions.

I've made my feelings clear to the club on many occasions.

[blueharmie]

Its disturbing when a grown man or woman uses these things. 

The whole clapper things is odd unless you are under 10 years of age.

Get rid. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

53 minutes ago, Mich-ol said:

I sit in row E in SK1 and whenever we play badly or something doesn't go our way (every game recently lol),  the clappers are launched towards the pitch i get wacked in the head. I would be happy to see the back of them 

Please write into the club about this exact issue, they got taken away from L1 for exactly this so if you could get them out of SK1 I'll buy you many many beers.

[MattFox]

Just under 220 quid spent on clappers for every season ticket holder since they’ve been brought in.

 

I know it’s a drop in an ocean in football etc.. but it still seems hilariously wasteful 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

9 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Just under 220 quid spent on clappers for every season ticket holder since they’ve been brought in.

 

I know it’s a drop in an ocean in football etc.. but it still seems hilariously wasteful 

How do you know that figure mate out of interest?

[SpacedX]

40 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said:

To be fair. Clappers are probably locally produced

 

We used to have some locally produced goal music too instead of the tacky generic shite we have now. 

 

Combined with the continual clatter of cardboard, I actually look forward to away games and cringe at the prospect of playing at home. 

[adejo92]

[Foxin_Mad]

18 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Just under 220 quid spent on clappers for every season ticket holder since they’ve been brought in.

 

I know it’s a drop in an ocean in football etc.. but it still seems hilariously wasteful 

I think most fans would rather for example, their season ticket be £200 less, or subsidised travel to the games or some other benefit. 

 

The club  does some things well but the match day experience is embarrassingly tin pot. 

Edited 3 December 2021 by Foxin_Mad

[Foxin_Mad]

10 minutes ago, Line-X said:

We used to have some locally produced goal music too instead of the tacky generic shite we have now. 

 

Combined with the continual clatter of cardboard, I actually look forward to away games and cringe at the prospect of playing at home. 

Cant disagree, the general match day experience is so tin pot. I cringe every time we score and go the generic chants. 

[Fox92]

I don't cringe when we score, it doesn't really bother me about the music on the day. Scoring is the most important thing and I'd hear it hundred times if it meant we were battering teams.

 

It's just horrible hearing it back on MOTD. But then again I do remember some of our fans used to chant it, just the tune and no words, so perhaps the club thought we all like it.

Edited 3 December 2021 by Fox92