Transfer Rumours

[Sly]

First laugh of the day ….

 

Leicester City scouts were in attendance for Juventus' 2-0 win over Genoa at the weekend to watch French midfielder Adrien Rabiot, 26, and 27-year-old Italian international Federico Bernardeschi. (CalcioMercato, via Leicester Mercury)

 

Edited 7 December 2021 by Sly

[NaijaFox]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

First laugh of the day ….

 

Leicester City scouts were in attendance for Juventus' 2-0 win over Genoa at the weekend to watch French midfielder Adrien Rabiot, 26, and 27-year-old Italian international Federico Bernardeschi. (CalcioMercato, via Leicester Mercury)

 

Kind of rumours I like. Shows ambition. 

[lcfc sheff]

Rabiot would be a dream replacement for  Youri and now I’m fixated on the idea 

[Deeg67]

Juventus has no chance when a club of our stature starts whispering in the player’s ear.

[FoxyLeon]

Rabiot wouldn't be interested and doesn't have the attitude we need.

Bernadeshi would be ok.....

 

But these type of rumours are so worrying and more evidence Rodgers is trying to alter our recruitment.

Completely wrong type of profile.

[coolhandfox]

Can't see it but Rabiot only has 18 months left on his contract and Bernardeschi has 6 months.

 

Would be a change in our approach as we generally don't shop in this age range 

[davieG]

https://www.teamtalk.com/watford/exclusive-watford-eye-january-move-daniel-amartey-despite-major-issue

 

EXCLUSIVE: Leicester Prem winner a major Watford target despite major issue
Date published: Monday 6th December 2021 8:45 - TEAMtalk staff

Daniel Amartey TEAMtalk
Claudio Ranieri has asked Watford to look into the prospect of landing Daniel Amartey in the January transfer window, TEAMtalk understands.

Ranieri remains confident that he can guide the Hornets to safety but is hoping for reinforcements in the New Year. One of the targets he has asked the club’s hierarchy to pursue is Amartey, a player he signed during his time with Leicester City. Amartey is out of contract at the end of the season.

And we understand that talks have commenced over a new deal at the King Power. The 26-year-old midfielder has proved particularly useful this season to Brendan Rodgers, playing as an emergency central defender.

Amartey has mainly been a squad player in recent years. Regular first-team football could appeal to the Ghana international – especially in his preferred midfield position and Watford could potentially offer him that.

It’s understood Amartey could also have the chance to move to Europe, with clubs from Italy, Germany and Spain showing an interest.

Claudio Ranieri Watford

One potential issue for any club interested is that Amartey is due to take part in the African Cup of Nations in the New Year. Therefore he would not be available for any club until February.

[whitlock]

Hands off Big Dan, Sir Claudio!

[Le Renard]

1 hour ago, lcfc sheff said:

Rabiot would be a dream replacement for  Youri and now I’m fixated on the idea 

You don't want his mother who's his agent anywhere near the club! 

[Finnegan]

They'd both be terrible signings for different reasons.

 

Rabiot is exactly the sort of personality we've successfully avoided during our recruitment for years. He's a stuck up prima donna, would probably cost us a fortune in wages and nobody would ever buy him off us anyway. 

 

And Bernadeschi is just shit. He's essentially Perez with a tad more pace. Once, literally once, he scored double figures in the league and got his move to Juve. Bit like Ghezzal's freak one off season at Lyon that he dined out on for five or six years. 

 

He's since then averaged about a goal a season, hasn't scored yet this campaign, didn't manage a single league goal in 20/21 and managed one in 19/20 which came in a late season game against a woeful Samp. 

 

Oh and just in case you're thinking "yeah but some attacking midfielders contribute more with assists!" - he averages about one of those a season too. 

 

Absolutely garbage. He'd be exactly the sort of signing that got Congerton his rep at Sunderland. Massive reputation, high profile, big club, big wages, sod all actual output. 

 

Edited 7 December 2021 by Finnegan

[NasPb]

37 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

They'd both be terrible signings for different reasons.

 

Rabiot is exactly the sort of personality we've successfully avoided during our recruitment for years. He's a stuck up prima donna, would probably cost us a fortune in wages and nobody would ever buy him off us anyway. 

 

And Bernadeschi is just shit. He's essentially Perez with a tad more pace. Once, literally once, he scored double figures in the league and got his move to Juve. Bit like Ghezzal's freak one off season at Lyon that he dined out on for five or six years. 

 

He's since then averaged about a goal a season, hasn't scored yet this campaign, didn't manage a single league goal in 20/21 and managed one in 19/20 which came in a late season game against a woeful Samp. 

 

Oh and just in case you're thinking "yeah but some attacking midfielders contribute more with assists!" - he averages about one of those a season too. 

 

Absolutely garbage. He'd be exactly the sort of signing that got Congerton his rep at Sunderland. Massive reputation, high profile, big club, big wages, sod all actual output. 

 

I usually think you're very harsh all around with your post but truth is your spot on especially regarding rabiot. Absolute diva! 

[surrifox]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

They'd both be terrible signings for different reasons.

 

Rabiot is exactly the sort of personality we've successfully avoided during our recruitment for years. He's a stuck up prima donna, would probably cost us a fortune in wages and nobody would ever buy him off us anyway. 

 

And Bernadeschi is just shit. He's essentially Perez with a tad more pace. Once, literally once, he scored double figures in the league and got his move to Juve. Bit like Ghezzal's freak one off season at Lyon that he dined out on for five or six years. 

 

He's since then averaged about a goal a season, hasn't scored yet this campaign, didn't manage a single league goal in 20/21 and managed one in 19/20 which came in a late season game against a woeful Samp. 

 

Oh and just in case you're thinking "yeah but some attacking midfielders contribute more with assists!" - he averages about one of those a season too. 

 

Absolutely garbage. He'd be exactly the sort of signing that got Congerton his rep at Sunderland. Massive reputation, high profile, big club, big wages, sod all actual output. 

 

worrying. 

as if this wasn't sufficiently underwhelming we've also  been linked in a couple of reports with el Younoussi - from that all conquering Southampton side of................

 

[Finnegan]

11 minutes ago, surrifox said:

worrying

 

Not really because it's almost certainly just agent talk and nonsense. 

 

By and large, blogs, news sites and papers don't tend to break out transfers. The only time they really tend to go public and be accurate is when one of a small handful of credible individuals gives them weight (Percy, Fab, Terreur, etc.)

 

Almost all these links are just filler to keep people interested between windows. 

[BKLFox]

3 hours ago, FoxyLeon said:

Rabiot wouldn't be interested and doesn't have the attitude we need.

Bernadeshi would be ok.....

 

But these type of rumours are so worrying and more evidence Rodgers is trying to alter our recruitment.

Completely wrong type of profile.

But so is FT, reading most of the threads especially the over achieving 1 people want success now & therefore would need established players meaning they are in the 26-29yr old bracket & not the younger with promise for the future type players which has been the profile, although you do need both.

[Guest SO1]

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Edited 7 December 2021 by SO1

[Langston]

Rabiot would be such a fundamentally terrible fit here I don't know where to begin. He's a 24-carat arse.

[Guest SO1]

The club are not altering their transfer profile or expenditure for Rodgers or Congerton. Its just a mental issue for the supporters and the forum to deal with. As in long range planning vs. short term thinking. If you turn into Everton you have much larger deeper issues than a manager and a scout.

 

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, SO1 said:

The club are not altering their transfer profile or expenditure for Rodgers or Congerton. Its just a mental issue for the supporters and the forum to deal with. As in long range planning vs. short term thinking. If you turn into Everton you have much larger deeper issues than a manager and a scout.

Bang on 

 

We had a technical scouting department pre-Rodgers/Congerton, and we will have one once they leave. Top is in charge, not Rodgers/Congerton.

[surrifox]

16 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Bang on 

 

We had a technical scouting department pre-Rodgers/Congerton, and we will have one once they leave. Top is in charge, not Rodgers/Congerton.

Doesn’t explain some of the lamentable signings over the past couple of windows 

[FoxesWalk]

Rabiot is a grade A nobhead, pass. 

[Clever Fox]

10 minutes ago, SO1 said:

The club are not altering their transfer profile or expenditure for Rodgers or Congerton. Its just a mental issue for the supporters and the forum to deal with. As in long range planning vs. short term thinking. If you turn into Everton you have much larger deeper issues than a manager and a scout.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Bang on 

 

We had a technical scouting department pre-Rodgers/Congerton, and we will have one once they leave. Top is in charge, not Rodgers/Congerton.

Except that's not quite true. Why was Macia edged out to make room for Congerton ?

Why did we sign two sign two 30 yr old's which is at odds with our signings since Pearson.

Why didn't we go out and sign the next Mahrez, Fofana and similar players with big potential upside.

I've said it before. Pearson left pretty much the perfect structure here when he left.

The Club should have protected it and continued along the same lines. 

There's always exceptions, But if your signing a 30 yr old, you better be certain it's going to work.

[moore_94]

22 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

 

Except that's not quite true. Why was Macia edged out to make room for Congerton ?

Why did we sign two sign two 30 yr old's which is at odds with our signings since Pearson.

Why didn't we go out and sign the next Mahrez, Fofana and similar players with big potential upside.

I've said it before. Pearson left pretty much the perfect structure here when he left.

The Club should have protected it and continued along the same lines. 

There's always exceptions, But if your signing a 30 yr old, you better be certain it's going to work.

Macia wasn't edged out, he wanted to leave to join the project at Bordeaux after their takeover

 

Not quite sure where the whole idea that we never sign older players has come from; Huth, Cambiasso, Inler, Fuchs (29), Okazaki (29), Slimani (29), Evans

 

Daka has big potential upside, although he has started poorly Soumare is highly rated

 

We don't sign a lot of older players, but we do sign them, Pearson signed 4 in 14/15

[Dahnsouff]

36 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

 

Except that's not quite true. Why was Macia edged out to make room for Congerton ?

Why did we sign two sign two 30 yr old's which is at odds with our signings since Pearson.

Why didn't we go out and sign the next Mahrez, Fofana and similar players with big potential upside.

I've said it before. Pearson left pretty much the perfect structure here when he left.

The Club should have protected it and continued along the same lines. 

There's always exceptions, But if your signing a 30 yr old, you better be certain it's going to work.

Sorry, thats just not true, but I see @moore_94 beat me to it

 

Also bear in mind that

• We lost experience of late with some older statesman leaving, so it made sense to try to fill that gap
• Transfers are never an exact science, we do quite well, but still get duffers

[Clever Fox]

31 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Macia wasn't edged out, he wanted to leave to join the project at Bordeaux after their takeover

 

Not quite sure where the whole idea that we never sign older players has come from; Huth, Cambiasso, Inler, Fuchs (29), Okazaki (29), Slimani (29), Evans

 

Daka has big potential upside, although he has started poorly Soumare is highly rated

 

We don't sign a lot of older players, but we do sign them, Pearson signed 4 in 14/15

Yes, but they all worked with the  exception of possibly Inler.

That's my point you need to be sure older signings can make a difference.

 

You didn't need to be Einstein to know that Vestagaard had no pace and with all the analysis available we should have known Bertrand's legs have gone.  

 

Now we're stuck with them and we still have to find someone to do the job.

 

We need to keep finding the next Generation of talent that's out there, like this Greek kid that seems the business and we're trying to sign.

[Lambert09]

It goes against our model but the upside to signing an older player is you aren’t likely to get them poached by bigger clubs. 
 

obviously you have to find the right player though.  But for example wolves with Moutinho (can’t spell sorry), proven quality came in and did a great job for a fair few seasons ... no chance of someone signing him no matter how well he played. Eventually he will be a great presence to coach a younger understudy.  There’s always room for the occasional signing like that. But you have to have sellable assets as well.