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Atmosphere at the KP

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The problem wirh the king power is that it is full of folk who aren't bothered about football. Loads jumped on the bandwagon when things were good.  I know 2 chaps who used to support man United but as soon as we started doing well they ended up with a season ticket at Leicester. 

A lot of them near me have no interest in the game. On their phone, kids watching ipads and folk constantly going down for a pint or a whatever. 

 

Hopefully a season or two of rubbish will get rid of some of them. 

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It just seems like there are so many variables why the atmosphere is so poor.

 

I was at Man City a few years ago (been once to each of their grounds) and the atmosphere was beyond terrible in the new stadium.  
 

At first I thought it was poor acoustics of the new ground but in the end realised their noisy fans that they had at Maine Road had either grown old or been replaced by cardboard cut outs.

 

It’s the same here, people are stuck with their season tickets not daring to stop just in case they miss out witnessing an achievement that other people have made.

 

I travel up these days for games being 50 mins away so I’m choosing Speedway on Saturday night over Leeds (not doing 3 trips to Leicester in 8 days!).  It’s a sport in constant peril in this country with stadiums being rug-pulled but at least you can stand up!

 

Sadly LCFC isn’t the community club I remember in the 90s.

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3 hours ago, Barclaysam53 said:

I honestly think some people have lost interest in many things since lockdown. Where I work, a lot of my colleagues support various teams and some have lost interest in their team, can’t be bothered to go etc and their teams are doing well 

I think it’s just a sad indictment of the game.

 

As you say many other match going fans of other clubs that I speak to seem to be feeling the same, some Villa STH I spoke to half way through last season, without me even talking about my bug bears of the game they were listing pretty much the same issue.

 

How the game should be played, the way to play football, it’s disgusting, nonsense, so boring - you may aswell be watching chess.

 

Rugby if you wanna see sideways and backwards passes - the ironic thing is even though you’re not allowed to pass forward in Rugby they still get forward more effectively, efficiently and faster.

 

Ive said numerous times, my issues with Leicester and Rodgers aren’t exclusive to us, it’s a problem with the game, the game is soulless, robotic, dead.

 

That doesn’t mean I’ll just accept it though, we used to be different, we used to be the exception to the rule, we used to go against the grain but we succumbed to follow the “The way to play football”, “Possession based football” nonsense merchants - the alternative isn’t just simply hoofing it, long ball tactics by the way although people seem that narrow minded that’s what they think I’m alluding to.

 

There is a belief that football comes in cycles, that cycle, that change can’t come soon enough, for the good of the game. Fans of all clubs are being turned off.

 

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29 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

I think top level football might be in decline atm in terms of interest. 

 

Many factors contributing to this. 

Lol what?!!!! Where have you got that from?!! Last season was the highest PL average attendance on record. This season is set to surpass that so far and no one can afford anything. Record overseas broadcast contract. Internal broadcast numbers still at multi year highs. Top level football is alive and kicking with huge money to be made for a large number of stakeholders, for now. 

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I think it’s just a sad indictment of the game.

 

As you say many other match going fans of other clubs that I speak to seem to be feeling the same, some Villa STH I spoke to half way through last season, without me even talking about my bug bears of the game they were listing pretty much the same issue.

 

How the game should be played, the way to play football, it’s disgusting, nonsense, so boring - you may aswell be watching chess.

 

Rugby if you wanna see sideways and backwards passes - the ironic thing is even though you’re not allowed to pass forward in Rugby they still get forward more effectively, efficiently and faster.

 

Ive said numerous times, my issues with Leicester and Rodgers aren’t exclusive to us, it’s a problem with the game, the game is dead.

 

That doesn’t mean I’ll just accept it though, we used to be different, we used to be the exception to the rule, we used to go against the grain but we succumbed to follow the “The way to play football”, “Possession based football” nonsense merchants - the alternative isn’t just simply hoofing it, long ball tactics by the way although people seem that narrow minded that’s what they think I’m alluding to.

 

There is a belief that football comes in cycles, that cycle, that change can’t come soon enough, for the good of the game. Fans of all clubs are being turned off.

 

You say you won’t accept it. How are you going to do that out of interest? You have a large market of people here to advise tbf 

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4 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Italian Ultras often refer to a relegation as a necessary purge. 

 

However what worries me slightly is that the ‘next generation’ of City fans lose interest

A single season purge could help, but like you say if it goes on for any longer than that it would be harmful. I genuinely believe a large standing area would re-invigorate a lot of people's enjoyment of the whole thing. The current stadium really isn't space-shared particularly well, it needs more defined zones imo with less of a blanket approach.  

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37 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

You say you won’t accept it. How are you going to do that out of interest? You have a large market of people here to advise tbf 

Turn of phrase really, it was meant to be took as more we shouldn’t accept it, it shouldn’t be accepted and why it’s celebrated is beyond me.

 

I often hear ”Because it’s successful for Man City”? Hmmm think there’s more to it than playing in a certain way.

 

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8 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

A single season purge could help, but like you say if it goes on for any longer than that it would be harmful. I genuinely believe a large standing area would re-invigorate a lot of people's enjoyment of the whole thing. The current stadium really isn't space-shared particularly well, it needs more defined zones imo with less of a blanket approach.  

Do you believe there is an actual realistic chance the section gets bigger or expanded or safe standing section gets put in? Or are the club going to just disregard it like they usually do

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3 hours ago, Barclaysam53 said:

I honestly think some people have lost interest in many things since lockdown. Where I work, a lot of my colleagues support various teams and some have lost interest in their team, can’t be bothered to go etc and their teams are doing well 

Think this fits me quite nicely. Lockdown "broke the spell" for me. I suddenly realised and got out of the habit of going to the football. Since it returned it's been one hell of a chore at times.

 

Point being, before lockdown I'd do every home game and almost every away game. The thought of not catching a game live on the TV or being there used to horrify me. Then lockdown hit and I got out of the habit, I realised it wasn't the be all and end all for me. I got more into another sport and lost my lustre for football.

 

Of course the football isn't helping, and for me personally nor is the fact I've seen so many highs in the last eight years with my team. Where do I go from there? 

 

It might come back, but I just cannot muster any enthusiasm for going to matches at the minute.

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1 hour ago, Footballwipe said:

Think this fits me quite nicely. Lockdown "broke the spell" for me. I suddenly realised and got out of the habit of going to the football. Since it returned it's been one hell of a chore at times.

 

Point being, before lockdown I'd do every home game and almost every away game. The thought of not catching a game live on the TV or being there used to horrify me. Then lockdown hit and I got out of the habit, I realised it wasn't the be all and end all for me. I got more into another sport and lost my lustre for football.

 

Of course the football isn't helping, and for me personally nor is the fact I've seen so many highs in the last eight years with my team. Where do I go from there? 

 

It might come back, but I just cannot muster any enthusiasm for going to matches at the minute.

This resonates so much with me, I felt my time was waning a bit leading into it with the dreadful match day experience getting worse - the Liverpool 2019 home game build up was atrocious!

 

The thing is a lot of us haven’t fallen out of love with sport - I love the events I go to, thoroughly enjoy seeing people enjoying life again

 

Football afternoons at Brackley FC (I do 6-7 matches a year now) are enjoyable where you can socialise in the ground easier.  
 

Leicester City sadly sums up the corporate world we live in and as much as I hated the first lockdown I’m glad they did it!  Instead of rage frothing about it like I would have, it actually does not matter now.

 

I’d still have MON days back any time!

 

Do you know what, we really don’t need shiny stadiums to enjoy football in!

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2 hours ago, Lako42 said:

I think top level football might be in decline atm in terms of interest. 

 

Many factors contributing to this. 

Seems true, weirdly as I still follow the MLS, the attitude seems completely different in the US.  The crowds are really young, and the clubs embrace this and give them what they want, no surprise over there its booming whereas over here there seems a general apathy.

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1 hour ago, Stadt said:

If I didn't go to games with a big group of mates I wouldn't bother very often. 

 

I get the sense the club don't realise how apathetic most of our core support is becoming.

I've had season tickets in the recent past. I go now when l can. I didn't even watch our game on Saturday on the tv. I really wasn't too bothered. Sounds awful & it's difficult to admit. 

You make a very valid point, in my opinion. 

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29 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

Seems true, weirdly as I still follow the MLS, the attitude seems completely different in the US.  The crowds are really young, and the clubs embrace this and give them what they want, no surprise over there its booming whereas over here there seems a general apathy.

It's mental clubs (not just us) never really seem to ask their most engaged fans what they actually want. The section trial was more like it but we're usually lumbered with shitty, expensive food, drink, awful goal music, crap merch, £48 world cup packages etc.

 

Football fans want to spend money with their clubs, they just try everything but ask instead. 

 

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22 minutes ago, Stadt said:

It's mental clubs (not just us) never really seem to ask their most engaged fans what they actually want. The section trial was more like it but we're usually lumbered with shitty, expensive food, drink, awful goal music, crap merch, £48 world cup packages etc.

 

Football fans want to spend money with their clubs, they just try everything but ask instead. 

 

The section being given a season was a massive step i thought for relations between club and fans and then they go and pull something like they did on Saturday and it makes you question what is going through their heads to actively try and make our atmoshphere worse when there is a real opportunity for the section to improve it

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I think we all know the root cause of the state of football & that’s the root cause of most evils, money!

Football is no longer about engaging communities and having multi generations of 1 family sat (stood) in the stands, it’s about milking as much coin from as many avenues as possible. 
On match day They want cooperate hospitality, they want the shop to be cleared of stock, they want catering revenue, they want, they want, they want all before they think of you and I.

Obviously you get the old exception, we were one and to a degree still are but the challenge to remain competitive out ways the challenge to keep true to the romance of owning a club you fell in love with.

I rack my brains to think of any other owners, especially top flight, that own their clubs because they are true fans & love that club.

 

I came up with 2, Steve Gibson at the Boro  and I have to go way back to Jack Walker & Blackburn, there probably are a few others but struggle to think, you could argue Roman Abramovich was 1, he was haemorrhaging something like 900k a week which he was propping up, ok maybe dirty money, but I think he truly loved Chelsea for Chelsea and not see it as a money making scheme, as he didn’t need the money, where as the yanks come in and it’s 100% a business this is where that loss was found and quickly plugged and the gravy train lines drawn up.

 

The Premier League are in advanced talks with plans for a preseason US tournament and meaningful games throughout the season being played in the US, & which clubs are invited, yep you guessed it, whilst they don’t mention clubs by name it states “involving 6 top clubs” 🤔 now who could that involve.
The rich get richer all the while mugging off their fan base.

 

The sooner these 6 go the sooner we can get back to the old model we know ,but, this would BE the old model, it won’t have the bells and whistles we see now, that will follow those 6 clubs, it will be tough and may even have to go down the rugby wage cap route to be sustainable but we’ll get “Football Competitiveness” back and I think more engaged fans.

 

 

 

 

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I think we all know the root cause of the state of football & that’s the root cause of most evils, money!

Football is no longer about engaging communities and having multi generations of 1 family sat (stood) in the stands, it’s about milking as much coin from as many avenues as possible. 
On match day They want cooperate hospitality, they want the shop to be cleared of stock, they want catering revenue, they want, they want, they want all before they think of you and I.

Obviously you get the old exception, we were one and to a degree still are but the challenge to remain competitive out ways the challenge to keep true to the romance of owning a club you fell in love with.

I rack my brains to think of any other owners, especially top flight, that own their clubs because they are true fans & love that club.

 

I came up with 2, Steve Gibson at the Boro  and I have to go way back to Jack Walker & Blackburn, there probably are a few others but struggle to think, you could argue Roman Abramovich was 1, he was haemorrhaging something like 900k a week which he was propping up, ok maybe dirty money, but I think he truly loved Chelsea for Chelsea and not see it as a money making scheme, as he didn’t need the money, where as the yanks come in and it’s 100% a business this is where that loss was found and quickly plugged and the gravy train lines drawn up.

 

The Premier League are in advanced talks with plans for a preseason US tournament and meaningful games throughout the season being played in the US, & which clubs are invited, yep you guessed it, whilst they don’t mention clubs by name it states “involving 6 top clubs” 🤔 now who could that involve.
The rich get richer all the while mugging off their fan base.

 

The sooner these 6 go the sooner we can get back to the old model we know ,but, this would BE the old model, it won’t have the bells and whistles we see now, that will follow those 6 clubs, it will be tough and may even have to go down the rugby wage cap route to be sustainable but we’ll get “Football Competitiveness” back and I think more engaged fans.

 

 

 

 

This is why I’m aghast at the ‘top level football is in decline’ comment a few rows above. Unless you live in a secure bubble I don’t know how any football fan can think that. There is an insatiable appetite for the game, these so called ‘friendly’ tournaments will all do over 100k at >$100 per ticket pre game all over USA, Asia, Oceania, Africa. With huge broadcast, merchandise and commercial deals on the side. Top level football is wiping out all competition post pandemic.

 

And as posters who arranged the section have constantly stated, if you’re apathetic, go and join them…

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