Seagrave Training centre/Poor performances

[Webbo]

Just now, turlo said:

Filbert

Give it time.

[Bryn]

Correlation not causation.

[adejo92]

You can have all the facilities in the world, but if your staff aren't up to scratch it means very little.

 

The saying "All the gear, No idea" springs to mind.

 

Perhaps our coaching team are too busy playing 9 holes and our players are too busy playing water polo.

Edited 27 December 2021 by adejo92

[5waller5]

15 hours ago, Bryn said:

Correlation not causation.

Exactly.

 

 

[Duquesne Whistle]

16 hours ago, Matt said:

“no excuse” for not improving their game when the club move into their state-of-the-art new training ground, manager 
“This is right up there with the best in the world. It’s an absolutely incredible investment by the club, said Rodgers.

“It’s one of the big reasons to come here. I’m a developer, that’s my life. It’s a facility where there’s been no expense spared, it’s phenomenal.

“There’s no excuse for any player.

“It has everything you would want at the very elite level of modern football from the sports science to the pitches, to the academy.
 

Rodgers said last month that moving to Seagrave will provide the City squad with an immediate “vital boost” as the advanced recovery facilities allow them to get through a busy period with more freshness.

 

“I think the benefits to it straight away will be that we’ll go into a world-class facility that will allow us to recover even better,” he said.

 

“We go into Seagrave where there’ll be pools, hydro pools, cryotherapy, there’s going to be everything there in order to recover. That will be brilliant for us in this period where the games will be coming thick and fast.”

 

However much you try and disassociate Rodgers with David Brent, you just can't when he makes statements like that. What do players really think listening to shite like that? I'm sure some buy into it, but it must sound awful when you're conceding from a free kick or corner every match.

If he advertises himself as 'a developer and that's his life', develop a decent strategy for defending with the players we have available please. That shouldn't be beyond him. 

 

I dunno, there's times I feel I'm being incredibly harsh on Rodgers, but there's many more times when some of the drivel he spouts gets right up my nose. 

Edited 27 December 2021 by Duquesne Whistle
to add 'or corner'

[lcfclcfc1]

15 hours ago, turlo said:

Filbert

Noooooo not Filbert. He's one of our best fans😅 Perhaps we should try him in defence a few matches 🤔

[DoveValleyFox]

Wrong kind of grass,

soil too clay...ey,

paint too bright,

too far to walk from the car park,

reception staff not welcoming enough,

too close to the North Pole,

Etc. Etc

[turlo]

What use is a Ferrari if you're filling it was piss instead of high octane fuel. Replace piss with high octane fuel. 

[Corky]

16 hours ago, Webbo said:

Give it time.

He's been here 30 years, stealing a living now.

[whoareyaaa]

17 hours ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

That ‘no excuses’ line was brought out a couple of times on the Moscow 25 training ground tour.

 

It’s an incredible facility with everything you could need as a footballer. But I’m already hearing rumours that the players aren’t keen and complaining about the pitches and the wind…

 

Put it this way, the training ground isn’t going anywhere so if something’s going to give, it’ll be the current players.

They need some of these beauty's 

 

[turlo]

53 minutes ago, Duquesne Whistle said:

However much you try and disassociate Rodgers with David Brent, you just can't when he makes statements like that. What do players really think listening to shite like that? I'm sure some buy into it, but it must sound awful when you're conceding from a free kick or corner every match.

If he advertises himself as 'a developer and that's his life', develop a decent strategy for defending with the players we have available please. That shouldn't be beyond him. 

 

I dunno, there's times I feel I'm being incredibly harsh on Rodgers, but there's many more times when some of the drivel he spouts gets right up my nose. 

“It’s one of the big reasons to come here. I’m a developer, that’s my life. It’s a facility where there’s been no expense spared, it’s phenomenal"

[ealingfox]

You'd have thought some thinking would have gone into the design of the place so that this wasn't the case. However our club does seem to have a knack for turning massive positives into negatives, so would you really be that surprised?

[Daggers]

17 hours ago, Webbo said:

Is there any one/thing we haven't blamed yet?

Wellens’ wife

[Cadno'r Cymoedd]

17 hours ago, Webbo said:

Is there any one/thing we haven't blamed yet?

You're on the list, coming soon... 

[Babylon]

Well we had loads of shit performances before moving there, and I'm not sure the Seagrave Training Centre is available for man marking at corners... so no, clearly it's not. 

[volpeazzurro]

Whether it's St George's Park or Seagrave, no matter how state of the art the facilities are, the most important ingredient is the coaches. If the coaching team, philosophy and methods are poor, then the chances are so will the team be on the pitch. 

 

So, do we think the coaches are up to it? Are they being told what to coach the players regardless of their thoughts? Why haven't they addressed the set peice issue, are they being stubborn and still believe it's suddenly going to work after all this time or, haven't they got a clue what to do?

 

Is it time to get a new team of coaches in?

[Fox1980]

2 hours ago, turlo said:

What use is a Ferrari if you're filling it was piss instead of high octane fuel. Replace piss with high octane fuel. 

Some would just replace the Ferrari with a Skoda. We was in league 1 ya know! 

[cruzFOX]

‘Advanced recovery capabilities?”

[baldeagle]

Seriously why are people always looking at something or someone to blame . The amount of threads on here trying to finger point at times is exasperating 

[iancognito]

KDH has posted up pics of Nacho & Amartey doing recovery sessions today, the facilities look incredible, I can't see anyway it hinders us. If as a player you're hindered by BETTER facilities you need to re-evaluate your career. Similar facilities are available to Liverpool, Spurs and Man City, yet they don't seem to have had an issue with injuries or form like us.

 

Straws will always be clutched during poor seasons.

[dobbylcfc]

I don’t think Seagrave is totally to blame but I do think it has made our players a bit spoilt. When you compare to how they used to ruff it up at the old gaff to what they have now. It’s like being on the dole for years and years to scooping the euro millions jackpot. For me they look like they’ve lost there fight and motivation.

[Kinowe Soorie]

7 hours ago, baldeagle said:

Seriously why are people always looking at something or someone to blame . The amount of threads on here trying to finger point at times is exasperating 

Because it’s someone’s fault we keep losing because of basic errors?

[Le Renard]

 

Oh look, it is another thread to find someone or something to blame!

[dynamark]

Anyone care to put the blame on Frank .I know one thing it would be very expensive to turn it back to a golf course.

Wait till summer and the chicken sheds start to smell

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

We’ve not been the same since Cousin Dennis did a runner