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If we sign this guy he will be another addition to the list of players who we've signed under Rodgers that dont immediately improve or fit into our starting XI. We need to learn to start waiting for the right players rather than what's available on the market.

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18 goals and 9 assists for the season now. Excellent return for such a young player.

 

Maybe he’s a perfect fit for this christmas tree/diamond formation we’ve been playing recently? 

CM, Mendy/Ndidi, KDH

CDK, Maddison

Vardy

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10 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

If we sign this guy he will be another addition to the list of players who we've signed under Rodgers that dont immediately improve or fit into our starting XI. We need to learn to start waiting for the right players rather than what's available on the market.

Does anybody remember Bertrand, Vestergaard, Soumaré, Perez, Praet and even Daka.. This season we have gone back to a team that mostly consists of players that predate Rodgers. We just cannot keep adding to a bloated squad. As we have found selling our surplus players has proven to be very difficult.

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8 minutes ago, Attywolf said:

It's pretty clear with young players Rodgers doesn't think of them for the season they are brought in but the season after. As if we want to immediately improve the squad we will end up buying 28/29 year old players and would most likely end up like Everton in a couple of seasons

My point was that he doesn't fit into our starting XI at all, doesn't matter if it's next season or the one after, he's yet another one like Perez, soumare etc who can play rw/striker or cm/cdm but who doesn't have a specific place in the starting XI to nail down. 

 

On your everton comments we've had multiple poor windows under Rodgers now and are still relying on the backbone of the squad that he inherited for the most part. If we continue to sign players without any long term vision for the team such as De ketaleare (who could be a good player but doesn't seem to be the right fit for us) you can't really say our transfer policy has been any better than that of Everton's since he came in, we've spent a lot of money for very little squad improvement.

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3 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

My point was that he doesn't fit into our starting XI at all, doesn't matter if it's next season or the one after, he's yet another one like Perez, soumare etc who can play rw/striker or cm/cdm but who doesn't have a specific place in the starting XI to nail down. 

 

On your everton comments we've had multiple poor windows under Rodgers now and are still relying on the backbone of the squad that he inherited for the most part. If we continue to sign players without any long term vision for the team such as De ketaleare (who could be a good player but doesn't seem to be the right fit for us) you can't really say our transfer policy has been any better than that of Everton's since he came in, we've spent a lot of money for very little squad improvement.

Go on the Everton forum and state that and see what they think? 

 

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

My point was that he doesn't fit into our starting XI at all, doesn't matter if it's next season or the one after, he's yet another one like Perez, soumare etc who can play rw/striker or cm/cdm but who doesn't have a specific place in the starting XI to nail down. 

 

On your everton comments we've had multiple poor windows under Rodgers now and are still relying on the backbone of the squad that he inherited for the most part. If we continue to sign players without any long term vision for the team such as De ketaleare (who could be a good player but doesn't seem to be the right fit for us) you can't really say our transfer policy has been any better than that of Everton's since he came in, we've spent a lot of money for very little squad improvement.

You’re right. Everton are having a sensational season this season……

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3 hours ago, honeybradger said:

If we sign this guy he will be another addition to the list of players who we've signed under Rodgers that dont immediately improve or fit into our starting XI. We need to learn to start waiting for the right players rather than what's available on the market.

....he can link the play well, seems very comfortable on the ball, needs to play as the second striker  or a "false 9"!!!

He does tend to link up well with Noa Lang (Club Brugge) their #10, and with Maddison it will be a very good partnership. Reads the game well, loves to get on the end of moves, a total change from what we have at the moment. The closest we have to him is Nacho, with better ball control, decision making, link up and unselfish.

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2 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

I hope not :( I'm hoping CDK takes Perez's place in the squad. 

The thing we’ve got to keep in mind is the club want to make some big changes in the summer. Selling fringe players alone won’t stretch far enough to match the ambitions of the club I don’t think.

 

I think there’s three players the club will part with if they can get the right deals in place. 
 

Maddison

Kelechi

Cags.

 

You’re going to get a decent amount for those, plus the fringe players leaves you with a nice amount to play with to bring one or two players in after the main targets are secured. 

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4 hours ago, MrsJohnMurphy said:

So we wait for De Ketaleare to sign for another club to see if he's any good then sign him in a couple of years when he's tripled in price. Is that what we should have done with Fofana too?

 

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No, im saying we shouldnt sign him at all as he has no place in our starting XI? Where would he play? we just signed daka for striker, maddison plays CAM, we've seen that shoehorning a player into the right wing position in the case of perez doesnt work. Our transfer business needs to be more patient and wait for players that fit the side rather than signing what's hot property on the market and shoehorning square pegs in round holes, such as in the case of soumare.

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1 hour ago, pmcla26 said:

I hope not :( I'm hoping CDK takes Perez's place in the squad. 

I do too. Crazy too let a player as hot as Maddison go.  Think we'll know what the club thinks about his longevity given his health issues over the past couple of seasons.

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7 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

No, im saying we shouldnt sign him at all as he has no place in our starting XI? Where would he play? we just signed daka for striker, maddison plays CAM, we've seen that shoehorning a player into the right wing position in the case of perez doesnt work. Our transfer business needs to be more patient and wait for players that fit the side rather than signing what's hot property on the market and shoehorning square pegs in round holes, such as in the case of soumare.

No Madueke:(? Not giving up on Soumare just yet. Patience. Practice what you preach.

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38 minutes ago, SO1 said:

No Madueke:(? Not giving up on Soumare just yet. Patience. Practice what you preach.

Madueke looks like he could be the right option for us as he seems like an actual specialised right winger rather than a player who covers multiple positions. I havent given up with soumare as a player, i think he's talented and if he doesnt succeed here he will succeed elsewhere, i just think that there wasnt a proper transfer strategy behind his signing other than being a young talented player available for a good price. Soumare just doesnt seem to be suited to what Rodgers wants from players and from what ive seen so far there doesnt seem to be a plan to find him a spot in the starting XI where he can excel, i can see the same being for de katelaere where he's not really a player that we need but he's talented and young so therefore he's in our crosshairs.

 

edit: for the record i would rather we went for two strikers rather than wingers but if wingers is the plan then madueke looks like a good option

 

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50 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Madueke looks like he could be the right option for us as he seems like an actual specialised right winger rather than a player who covers multiple positions. I havent given up with soumare as a player, i think he's talented and if he doesnt succeed here he will succeed elsewhere, i just think that there wasnt a proper transfer strategy behind his signing other than being a young talented player available for a good price. Soumare just doesnt seem to be suited to what Rodgers wants from players and from what ive seen so far there doesnt seem to be a plan to find him a spot in the starting XI where he can excel, i can see the same being for de katelaere where he's not really a player that we need but he's talented and young so therefore he's in our crosshairs.

 

edit: for the record i would rather we went for two strikers rather than wingers but if wingers is the plan then madueke looks like a good option

 

IMO Soumare was to play the KDH role this season. He's just not been good enough at it. 

He's not a defensive midfielder. Never has been. 

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I'm wanting to think he's the midfield equivalent of Fofana. Fofana was a calculated gamble worth taking. £30mil was a gamble but I think it's pretty obvious he's worth double that at the absolute least. It's the only way a club like us can attain world class players.

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4 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

I'm wanting to think he's the midfield equivalent of Fofana. Fofana was a calculated gamble worth taking. £30mil was a gamble but I think it's pretty obvious he's worth double that at the absolute least. It's the only way a club like us can attain world class players.

Worth quadruple that…

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