LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 3 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: You questioned if AC Milan, the current champions of Italy, could progress him as a player. I’d be shocked if anyone thinks the answer to that is no to be fair mate, that’s what it’s got to do with your question. Look at Minamino's progression at Liverpool, they were league champions. He's not done anything other than kick us out of the carabao cup. Cole Palmer or James McAttee, they're both going to end up leaving Man City because they can't progress further if they don't get minutes with the seniors. Being a league champion is no guarantee of progression for young talents. It's no coincidence that it's Dortmund and not Bayern who keep shitting out young talents and sell them for ridiculous money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 1 minute ago, LFox99 said: Look at Minamino's progression at Liverpool, they were league champions. He's not done anything other than kick us out of the carabao cup. Cole Palmer or James McAttee, they're both going to end up leaving Man City because they can't progress further if they don't get minutes with the seniors. Being a league champion is no guarantee of progression for young talents. It's no coincidence that it's Dortmund and not Bayern who keep shitting out young talents and sell them for ridiculous money. I agree with you mate, but people seem unable to see past big names at times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 I’ve looked at houses for sale in and around Milan and youngbirds.com (the East Midlands and Milan versions) and I’m still going to Milan ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanf0x Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 On 03/06/2022 at 20:46, alanf0x said: Probably would have started if he had been announced by Arsenal last week! Thread hot. Get excited. Nothing to see. Next 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 and they've just made their current CAM/ RW option permanent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 12 minutes ago, escape2victory said: Yeah I’ve been struggling a little as to how we fit him, Maddison and Vardy in the same team. Something like the below could work: Fofana Evans Left footed CB Castagne Ndidi KDH Left footed FB De Ketelaere Maddison Vardy Barnes and Lookman as the impact subs to stretch games if needed. Ricardo and Justin as wing back rotation and Justin also could play as the outside CBs in the formation @MadsEmil did a nice little write-up in this thread the other day how exactly CDK would fit us. In a 433 with CDK at RW and Madders in midfield we'd be able to create quite the overload leaving Barnes in acres of space on the left. He also pointed out that despite him having mainly played as a striker/ support striker, he basically does 90% of his work in wide areas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sankey93 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 I seen this was hot and got excited LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phenom Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 3 minutes ago, LFox99 said: @MadsEmil did a nice little write-up in this thread the other day how exactly CDK would fit us. In a 433 with CDK at RW and Madders in midfield we'd be able to create quite the overload leaving Barnes in acres of space on the left. He also pointed out that despite him having mainly played as a striker/ support striker, he basically does 90% of his work in wide areas. I hope that’s the plan and I hope that does not negatively impact Maddison’s development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 22 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Wow. We are good at developing players better than AC Milan anyway. This is the best reason for a young player to come here, not some media fed bias many seemed to buy into I actually cannot believe peeople think otherwise and just follows the brand direction of the media That's slightly ignorant of Milan's recent renaissance. They have done very well over the last two seasons bringing players in and pushing them on. They are one of the youngest Serie A winning squads ever. Tomori, Diaz, Tonali, Rafael Leao, Saelemaekers, Theo Hernandez, Kalulu are all examples of them signing players in their early 20s underutilised at big clubs or signed from a 'smaller club'. Six of those have been the cornerstones in their championship winning season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 33 minutes ago, Bordersfox said: You have never met him. But you have seen a photo. And from that drawn the conclusions he is introverted and a boy next door type. That's not speculative it's farcical. ....that suggestion was not taken from the photo, it was from the games I have watched him play and his interaction with his team mates on the pitch!!! My take on him seems to have been vindicated by a reply from @LFox99.regarding an article he had read, regarding his life and personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 36 minutes ago, escape2victory said: Yeah I’ve been struggling a little as to how we fit him, Maddison and Vardy in the same team. Something like the below could work: Fofana Evans Left footed CB Castagne Ndidi KDH Left footed FB De Ketelaere Maddison Vardy Barnes and Lookman as the impact subs to stretch games if needed. Ricardo and Justin as wing back rotation and Justin also could play as the outside CBs in the formation Hmmmmm ...and no ricardo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 55 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: That's slightly ignorant of Milan's recent renaissance. They have done very well over the last two seasons bringing players in and pushing them on. They are one of the youngest Serie A winning squads ever. Tomori, Diaz, Tonali, Rafael Leao, Saelemaekers, Theo Hernandez, Kalulu are all examples of them signing players in their early 20s underutilised at big clubs or signed from a 'smaller club'. Six of those have been the cornerstones in their championship winning season. Thats fair enough, they were lost for a while but they are clearly back to something resembling their best. I just rail against the premise its impossible he would choose a club like Leicester who (also) do have a good record with developing players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Thats fair enough, they were lost for a while but they are clearly back to something resembling their best. I just rail against the premise its impossible he would choose a club like Leicester who (also) do have a good record with developing players. Of course it is possible we just have to show Bruges and De Ketelaere and his agent the colour of our money. Edited 15 June 2022 by An Sionnach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, LFox99 said: Look at Minamino's progression at Liverpool, they were league champions. He's not done anything other than kick us out of the carabao cup. Cole Palmer or James McAttee, they're both going to end up leaving Man City because they can't progress further if they don't get minutes with the seniors. Being a league champion is no guarantee of progression for young talents. It's no coincidence that it's Dortmund and not Bayern who keep shitting out young talents and sell them for ridiculous money. Fair, I just think AC have a huge pull and are probably big favourites he se why players like Minamino go to teams like Liverpool. Edited 15 June 2022 by Costock_Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 3 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: Fair, I just think AC have a huge pull and are probably big favourites he se why players like Minamino go to teams like Liverpool. In general that's a fair statement but you need to look at it more in-depth to see which club can best cater a player's needs. AC are looking increasingly like to bring Noa Lang in, on top of that they made their current RW/ CAM permanent after his initial loan. CDK would be a guaranteed starter week in week out with us, don't think AC can offer him the same and for someone who's still yet to fully develop and who has been warned by his NT coach to make sure to keep playing consistently before the WC, that's going to be a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 3 minutes ago, LFox99 said: CDK would be a guaranteed starter week in week out with us Only if he's getting the right wing role. There's every possibility he's succession planning for Maddisons departure and not the RW solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 Just now, JimJams said: Only if he's getting the right wing role. There's every possibility he's succession planning for Maddisons departure and not the RW solution. Why can't he be both. At the end of the day that's just smart recruitment. We sort out our RW issue for the time being and if someone should come in for Maddison we won't be pressed to sell because we're sorted in the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 He can. But if (bigger font needed) we actually go for a dedicated RW this window then he's not guaranteed anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 1 minute ago, JimJams said: He can. But if (bigger font needed) we actually go for a dedicated RW this window then he's not guaranteed anything. Or Maddison’s perceived best role is given to CDK and he moves to an England friendly position in midfield, which has been recently vacated by a certain Mr. Tielemans….. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 Aye. I'm not saying he won't play week in week out. Just saying there's no guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 15 June 2022 Just now, Dahnsouff said: Or Maddison’s perceived best role is given to CDK and he moves to an England friendly position in midfield, which has been recently vacated by a certain Mr. Tielemans….. Tbf I remember us laughing at all the Arsenal lot claiming they'd play him as an 8 but Madders did say in the past he doesnt need to play as a 10 and actually likes the slightly deeper role as an 8. Would be quite the side 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Or Maddison’s perceived best role is given to CDK and he moves to an England friendly position in midfield, which has been recently vacated by a certain Mr. Tielemans….. I've often wondered this but not sure if it would nullify Maddison a bit. Not sure he'd be able to get the goals and assists numbers that he did last season if he was playing number 8 instead of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Or Maddison’s perceived best role is given to CDK and he moves to an England friendly position in midfield, which has been recently vacated by a certain Mr. Tielemans….. Maddison, KDH and Ndidi ain’t too bad of a trio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 Just now, jayfox26 said: I've often wondered this but not sure if it would nullify Maddison a bit. Not sure he'd be able to get the goals and assists numbers that he did last season if he was playing number 8 instead of 10. Have you not watched us last season? Maddison played as RW and 8 for pretty much the entire time bar a game or two where he actually got to be the dedicated #10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moore_94 Posted 15 June 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 15 June 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Tbf I remember us laughing at all the Arsenal lot claiming they'd play him as an 8 but Madders did say in the past he doesnt need to play as a 10 and actually likes the slightly deeper role as an 8. Would be quite the side I said in another thread this is what we should look to do, it will get Madders back playing through the middle and also means we don't need to spend big on a Youri replacement If Brendan wants to he can still probably play the double pivot pair and possibly push Madders into a 10 and KDH played a lot deeper when at Luton as well - although I hope we don't do that and allow Wilf to do what he does best on his own Edited 15 June 2022 by moore_94 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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