Clarkey123 Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 10 hours ago, lcfc_forever said: We haven't even made an offer for him yet! 55 page thread on a guy we haven’t even made an offer for 😂😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 5 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said: We can’t afford him. You have access to the clubs accounts? Nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 2 minutes ago, Clarkey123 said: 55 page thread on a guy we haven’t even made an offer for 😂😭 The Madueke thread nearly reached 100. One player traditionally causes a feeding frenzy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey123 Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 Just now, An Sionnach said: The Madueke thread nearly reached 100. One player traditionally causes a feeding frenzy. It’s crazy 😫. Just want a solid definite on a transfer 😢😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 3 hours ago, Scotch said: Do you mean Tyler Adams? Yes, Tyler Adams. Estimated at around 20 million if it happens, but who knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 1 hour ago, Deeg67 said: Yes, Tyler Adams. Estimated at around 20 million if it happens, but who knows. I think the guy that mentioned Adams not being the same class as CDK might have thought you meany Che Adams... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 Correct me if I'm wrong but toward the season finale Rodgers was going on about a summer intake of new players. Yet some are suggesting we can't afford 26 mil for CDK! Expectations need to lowered I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Winsum Posted 26 June 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 26 June 2022 Rogers first mentioned a rebuild after the debacle against Forest In my opinion it was an attempt to deflect from that performance The only issue with a rebuild the club needs to offload players and have the necessary finance So far the former has not happened and the second seems dependent on the first It is beginning to look like an error on Rodgers part in coming out with the rebuild statement The next few weeks will answer that 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 26 June 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 26 June 2022 24 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: Correct me if I'm wrong but toward the season finale Rodgers was going on about a summer intake of new players. Yet some are suggesting we can't afford 26 mil for CDK! Expectations need to lowered I think. I do think people are perhaps over simplifying this a little. I imagine we could afford to spend 20-30m on new players this summer, that's been pretty consistent for the last few years, even when covid was really attacking both ours and our owners incomes. It seems a bit drastic to suggest that our financial situation has gotten so bad that we now can't buy any players, right after a season where we pulled in reasonable extra income from European competition and got crowds back in the stadium. What is however likely is that we have several lists of players we'd like to buy in different scenarios. Targets for if we can't sell anyone permanently, targets for if we sell Tielemans, targets for if we sell Soyuncu, targets for if we manage to have a large clear out of fringe players, targets for if we only manage to find loans for Praet, Hamza, etc. And so on. I doubt we NEED to sell to be able to spend a little but knowing how much extra we're going to bring in probably will influence who we target to buy so, yeah, we probably are going to have to be a little patient on that. Given how little movement there is globally on transfers at the moment, I don't think there's a huge risk that we're missing any targets. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerrrFox Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pliskin said: You have access to the clubs accounts? Nice! The public have access to the club’s finances, we post them every year. In short, we are mortgaged up to the eyeballs, we keep taking loans out with Macquarie to help with cash flow, we have one of the biggest wage to turnover %’s in the league and we have around 8 players that are on well over £50k a week that Brendan doesn’t want and we can’t shift. Hence my frustration on this forum at players like Tielemans - who incidentally we want to shift but unless something drastic changes, is gonna sit on the last year of his contract and leave for free. Edited 26 June 2022 by GingerrrFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 10 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said: The public have access to the club’s finances, we post them every year. In short, we are mortgaged up to the eyeballs, we keep taking loans out with Macquarie to help with cash flow, we have one of the biggest wage to turnover %’s in the league and we have around 8 players that are on well over £50k a week that Brendan doesn’t want and we can’t shift. Hence my frustration on this forum at players like Tielemans - who incidentally we want to shift but unless something drastic changes, is gonna sit on the last year of his contract and leave for free. The majority of debt is with the owners we have a small loan with macquarie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 54 minutes ago, Scotch said: I think the guy that mentioned Adams not being the same class as CDK might have thought you meany Che Adams... That would explain the tone, but I still kind of doubt it! Adams is obviously more of a Phillips replacement than Raphinha, which CDK would be. But the point is there’s a finite number in their transfer budget and a lot of options on their radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetintedspecs Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 9Apparently decisions re transfers will be firmly based on opinions on FoxesTalk. Keep them comments coming and create that swing 😜 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerrrFox Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 1 hour ago, Chocolate Teapot said: The majority of debt is with the owners we have a small loan with macquarie. Yeah and what’s happened to the owners wealth over the past 2 and half years? Considering tourism is there bread and butter and that industry has been decimated, I haven’t a clue about the family’s personal wealth but I would bet now isn’t really the opportune time to be pumping extra money into the club? We aren’t gonna be splashing the cash like people think and that’s partly because we’ve ended up with a squad that’s fat with players that have minimal re-sale value combined with big wages and we’ve ended up in a bad position contractually with players with re-sale value. If Leeds go to £40 million, he’s either going there or staying at Brugge, Milan are after Ziyech now which is why their interest in CDK has cooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said: Yeah and what’s happened to the owners wealth over the past 2 and half years? Considering tourism is there bread and butter and that industry has been decimated, I haven’t a clue about the family’s personal wealth but I would bet now isn’t really the opportune time to be pumping extra money into the club? We aren’t gonna be splashing the cash like people think and that’s partly because we’ve ended up with a squad that’s fat with players that have minimal re-sale value combined with big wages and we’ve ended up in a bad position contractually with players with re-sale value. If Leeds go to £40 million, he’s either going there or staying at Brugge, Milan are after Ziyech now which is why their interest in CDK has cooled. Theyre billionaires and they don't just make their money out of travel. If they were in trouble I doubt theyd still be pumping money into horses. Ffp is our major issue and is the reason why we won't sign anyone till July. We won't splash cash because we never do but thats ffp and nothing to do with a lack of funds. Edited 26 June 2022 by Chocolate Teapot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 1 minute ago, GingerrrFox said: Yeah and what’s happened to the owners wealth over the past 2 and half years? Considering tourism is there bread and butter and that industry has been decimated, I haven’t a clue about the family’s personal wealth but I would bet now isn’t really the opportune time to be pumping extra money into the club? We aren’t gonna be splashing the cash like people think and that’s partly because we’ve ended up with a squad that’s fat with players that have minimal re-sale value combined with big wages and we’ve ended up in a bad position contractually with players with re-sale value. If Leeds go to £40 million, he’s either going there or staying at Brugge, Milan are after Ziyech now which is why their interest in CDK has cooled. We have never really splash the cash, nothing has really changed. We have normally spend 20m-30m net, other the a couple of seasons. It will be the same this year plus and sales. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 1 minute ago, coolhandfox said: We have never really splash the cash, nothing has really changed. We have normally spend 20m-30m net, other the a couple of seasons. It will be the same this year plus and sales. And whilst their debt has been 'decimated' they've given the club 170m in loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaggertvsWise Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: I do think people are perhaps over simplifying this a little. I imagine we could afford to spend 20-30m on new players this summer, that's been pretty consistent for the last few years, even when covid was really attacking both ours and our owners incomes. It seems a bit drastic to suggest that our financial situation has gotten so bad that we now can't buy any players, right after a season where we pulled in reasonable extra income from European competition and got crowds back in the stadium. What is however likely is that we have several lists of players we'd like to buy in different scenarios. Targets for if we can't sell anyone permanently, targets for if we sell Tielemans, targets for if we sell Soyuncu, targets for if we manage to have a large clear out of fringe players, targets for if we only manage to find loans for Praet, Hamza, etc. And so on. I doubt we NEED to sell to be able to spend a little but knowing how much extra we're going to bring in probably will influence who we target to buy so, yeah, we probably are going to have to be a little patient on that. Given how little movement there is globally on transfers at the moment, I don't think there's a huge risk that we're missing any targets. How dare you be so rational. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 2 hours ago, Winsum said: Rogers first mentioned a rebuild after the debacle against Forest In my opinion it was an attempt to deflect from that performance The only issue with a rebuild the club needs to offload players and have the necessary finance So far the former has not happened and the second seems dependent on the first It is beginning to look like an error on Rodgers part in coming out with the rebuild statement The next few weeks will answer that Think people have a short memory, there were so many issues prior to that and I think that Forest game was just the straw that broke the camels back. He’d hinted at needing personnel changes far before then, Rodgers had constantly said we don’t have players that want to be aggressive enough or are willing to do the basics properly - and he’s right. you’re spot on re finances though, if Youri stays the rebuild will be less likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 42 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: We have never really splash the cash, nothing has really changed. We have normally spend 20m-30m net, other the a couple of seasons. It will be the same this year plus and sales. There's hardly clubs queuing up to buy the players we're trying to get shot of though!.. We're lumbered good and proper with the likes of Perez, Vestergaard, Bertrand, Iheanacho, Mendy etc!!... who's going to buy any of those for half decent money?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 People will buy at what they perceive to be a decent price. Iheanacho is a guaranteed 15 goals a season playing week in / week out. That’s worth £25 million to a Forest, Fulham etc Mendy is done more than enough to prove his worth at this level. He’s played 2nd fiddle to N’Didi who’s one of the best ball winning midfielders in the world. Vestergaard in a deep lying defence, is a solid investment at £10m. Bertrand is difficult, due to the wages. Perez has never clicked here fully, however he’s shown what he’s capable of in flashes. If anything, we’ll struggle to replace backup players likes of Mendy etc for the money they’re on. For me, we could do with moving on the likes of Amartey, Ward, Albrighton and Soumare, who don’t have that next step in them for the wages they command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ely fox Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 Lloyd Dyer could do a job down the wing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Winsum said: Rogers first mentioned a rebuild after the debacle against Forest In my opinion it was an attempt to deflect from that performance The only issue with a rebuild the club needs to offload players and have the necessary finance So far the former has not happened and the second seems dependent on the first It is beginning to look like an error on Rodgers part in coming out with the rebuild statement The next few weeks will answer that He will say anything to deflect from comment on his own limitations. The board have made him look a fool. Now cdk is off to leads who are flush. Edited 26 June 2022 by foxinsocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 3 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: He wilm say anything to deflect from comment on his own limitations. The board have made him look a fool. Now cdk is off to leads who are flush. Is he going Leeds though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 26 June 2022 Share Posted 26 June 2022 52 minutes ago, weller54 said: There's hardly clubs queuing up to buy the players we're trying to get shot of though!.. We're lumbered good and proper with the likes of Perez, Vestergaard, Bertrand, Iheanacho, Mendy etc!!... who's going to buy any of those for half decent money?? But more likely we will sell Soyuncu for 20m odd and maybe Tieleman for 25m-30, which give us 60m-70m To bring in a CB, CM and a RW, if Tieleman decide to stay, it will be a CB and a RW. The other will more then likely stay and be party of the squad, with Perez, Mendy and Bertrand all out of contract next summer they will go then. If we do sell if will be more about getting there wages of the wage bill, and bring in a couple million here or there. BR said we need a rebuild but no one has said it will be in one summer window. Without Europe the squad will be less stretched, we also have a lot of kids who can be blooded and used, Nelson, Brunt, Braybooke, Alves etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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