FoxesWalk Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 Villa’s business reminds me a lot of Everton a few years ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 4 minutes ago, FoxesWalk said: Villa’s business reminds me a lot of Everton a few years ago. Yes, wry much so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 1 hour ago, FoxesWalk said: Villa’s business reminds me a lot of Everton a few years ago. You can't afford to waste huge volumes of money, even if the club is willing to push it to the maximum. At some point they'll run in to trouble. Our model is pretty much the only route to success for a club our size, and even then its no guarantee to keep doing it for years and years. I wince at signing supposedly proven PL players, the % success rate for such proven players seems to be way down and not worth the money paid for them. That's why I want to ensure we get back to the profile of player that we used to sign, who are under the age of 24 and have a mix of experience and success but ultimately its their vast potential that trumps the experience. If Villa don't get European football in the next 18 months then I'm fascinated to see how they operate. They also don't have many players that would sell for vast fees to turn the model in to something we do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: You can't afford to waste huge volumes of money, even if the club is willing to push it to the maximum. At some point they'll run in to trouble. Our model is pretty much the only route to success for a club our size, and even then its no guarantee to keep doing it for years and years. I wince at signing supposedly proven PL players, the % success rate for such proven players seems to be way down and not worth the money paid for them. That's why I want to ensure we get back to the profile of player that we used to sign, who are under the age of 24 and have a mix of experience and success but ultimately its their vast potential that trumps the experience. If Villa don't get European football in the next 18 months then I'm fascinated to see how they operate. They also don't have many players that would sell for vast fees to turn the model in to something we do. To be honest, the seemingly reckless spending is only a serious issue if the EPL has a genuine appetite for it to stop, rather than giving lip service to it. The EPL will become a money addled circus eventually, but I am not sure they care that much, even less so once foreign viewing rights outstrip domestic ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 16 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: To be honest, the seemingly reckless spending is only a serious issue if the EPL has a genuine appetite for it to stop, rather than giving lip service to it. The EPL will become a money addled circus eventually, but I am not sure they care that much, even less so once foreign viewing rights outstrip domestic ones. The problems become more of an obstacle when qualifying for Europe though. UEFA do at least dish out transfer bans and fines and they're desperate for a smaller club to really go to town on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllGoneTitsSchlupp Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 sky italia reporting that gosens has agreed personal terms with newcastle. didn’t he not want to come here through lack of CL? ££££ talks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 2 minutes ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said: sky italia reporting that gosens has agreed personal terms with newcastle. didn’t he not want to come here through lack of CL? ££££ talks Bloody hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manini Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 9 minutes ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said: sky italia reporting that gosens has agreed personal terms with newcastle. didn’t he not want to come here through lack of CL? ££££ talks If he goes there I will projectile vomit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silebyfox_89 Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 11 minutes ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said: sky italia reporting that gosens has agreed personal terms with newcastle. didn’t he not want to come here through lack of CL? ££££ talks No fee agreed as of yet, bit of risk on a player who's not played since last September. Big ask to hit the ground running in the prem, as good as a player he is. Apparently only offering him 60k p/w, i'd imagine the fee will be massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 I do have an inkling Gosens ridiculous trajectory as a player might be bottoming out. Atalanta are masters at selling at the right time and players not being as good elsewhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFS Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 **** off Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 15 January 2022 Share Posted 15 January 2022 1 hour ago, AllGoneTitsSchlupp said: sky italia reporting that gosens has agreed personal terms with newcastle. didn’t he not want to come here through lack of CL? ££££ talks These feckers aren’t going down are they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 15 January 2022 Author Share Posted 15 January 2022 3 hours ago, surrifox said: These feckers aren’t going down are they ? Getting to the point where we might as well let norwich and burnley win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 16 January 2022 Share Posted 16 January 2022 Andreas Skov Olsen looking like he might go to Rangers for £5m. Wasn't he on @Ric Flair list of ones to watch at one point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 16 January 2022 Share Posted 16 January 2022 I wonder where Cristien Eriksen is going to turn up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iran Posted 16 January 2022 Share Posted 16 January 2022 Adama Traoré replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 17 January 2022 Share Posted 17 January 2022 Burnley will have sold all their players to Newcastle by the time we play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 17 January 2022 Share Posted 17 January 2022 This is bad news for us. Any decent CB available and we have to go up against Newcastle. Even if Newcastle didn't even know about them they soon will once we make a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2022 Share Posted 17 January 2022 24 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: This is bad news for us. Any decent CB available and we have to go up against Newcastle. Even if Newcastle didn't even know about them they soon will once we make a move. Throw 2 we don't want out there first and they snap them up, then we go for who we do want. Food and drink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 17 January 2022 Share Posted 17 January 2022 20 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Throw 2 we don't want out there first and they snap them up, then we go for who we do want. Food and drink Have we got previous for this? I can remember rumours about us tricking maybe Villa or someone into a signing a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 17 January 2022 Share Posted 17 January 2022 1 minute ago, Raw Dykes said: Have we got previous for this? I can remember rumours about us tricking maybe Villa or someone into a signing a few years ago. Haha not sure, but it was quite clear a few years ago other teams were simply waiting to see who we were linked with in the press and then that was their scouting model 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 17 January 2022 Share Posted 17 January 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Haha not sure, but it was quite clear a few years ago other teams were simply waiting to see who we were linked with in the press and then that was their scouting model 😂 I think I remember hearing there were clubs going after whoever we were linked with, and we eventually started throwing red herrings out and someone bit. Would be great if it was true. Edited 17 January 2022 by Raw Dykes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 17 January 2022 Author Share Posted 17 January 2022 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Haha not sure, but it was quite clear a few years ago other teams were simply waiting to see who we were linked with in the press and then that was their scouting model 😂 Definitely happened with fofana and west ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted 17 January 2022 Share Posted 17 January 2022 Didn't we agree with Stoke in the summer of 2015 that we would put a spurious bid in for Steven Nzonzi, so that they could get more out of Seville for him? And in return, they let us keep Robert Huth on the cheap? Or did I dream that?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 17 January 2022 Share Posted 17 January 2022 2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said: This is bad news for us. Any decent CB available and we have to go up against Newcastle. Even if Newcastle didn't even know about them they soon will once we make a move. Players will come to us over Newcastle if we're serious about having them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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