Simoken Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 Can we closed out this thread, hes not going anywhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: If a player say the manager helped him, I'm going to talk it at face value. Just think its a bet strange that you think Rodgers has a problem helping flair players find form, with little to back it up. other than the fact that we’ve been playing with the combined creative force of an under 11s team for several months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 1 hour ago, MPH said: other than the fact that we’ve been playing with the combined creative force of an under 11s team for several months? So if we are so devoid of flair how have we scored 55 goals in 29 games in all comps, only 3 goals under averaging 2 a game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 18 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: So if we are so devoid of flair how have we scored 55 goals in 29 games in all comps, only 3 goals under averaging 2 a game? He just has the arse cos he sucks at Wordle, leave him alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetly Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 Would rather we spend the money elsewhere. I don’t think he is good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 3 hours ago, Fox85 said: Well rumours were a few weeks ago was that James maddison was finished and shouldn't be playing Leicester ever again due to his performances and his attitude. Also rumours stating that Leicester are Skint and cant afford a bag of skittles. Also rumours that Ryan Bertrand is close to signing for Chelsea. However they are all just rumours which all boil down to being Bullshit. Sign the lad he is a very good player. Under BR he could get back to his best and his best being a very effective asset for Leicester Well you obviously know more about him than the Norwich fans that watch him every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 Maddison and Rogers seem to be targeted by some very sad people. Let them be to get on with their jobs, for crying out loud, Find yourselves another hobby, like knitting perhaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 2 hours ago, mozartfox said: Is he better than Praet? If not, why bother. Save the cash. Praet had no future here and he's not that good really. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 According to the Mail,we're not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: He just has the arse cos he sucks at Wordle, leave him alone. hey I did well today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 11 January 2022 Share Posted 11 January 2022 4 hours ago, coolhandfox said: So if we are so devoid of flair how have we scored 55 goals in 29 games in all comps, only 3 goals under averaging 2 a game? in fairness we’ve had some pretty dull managers over the last several years but still managed to score big. Scoring goals doesn’t just mean you have a team full of expressive flair players, it can also mean you have a brilliant tactician in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox85 Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 12 hours ago, sylofox said: Well you obviously know more about him than the Norwich fans that watch him every week. Ahhhh so you personally then or don't you actually know? Just because someone calls someone a **** doesn't actually mean they are one. Like I said the majority of Leicester fans were calling maddison one a few weeks back now look at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 12 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Praet had no future here and he's not that good really. Cheers Brendan. I forgot the Belgian National Team is full of duffers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 3 minutes ago, Fox85 said: Ahhhh so you personally then or don't you actually know? Just because someone calls someone a **** doesn't actually mean they are one. Like I said the majority of Leicester fans were calling maddison one a few weeks back now look at him. So when he was playing well and not injured Fark dropped him for what reason? And the rumours were circulating months before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 Praet to be fair was a utility player that never really shone in any of the positions he played in. This kid has flair. He also seems to have some other baggage too but he’s a baller alright and he’ll still have that in him somewhere. I’d take a chance on him if the coaches think they can excise his demon baggage and find that ability again and kick on from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 43 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Cheers Brendan. I forgot the Belgian National Team is full of duffers. Who said the Belgium team is full of duffers? And besides Brendan hardly played him then loaned him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 10 hours ago, MPH said: in fairness we’ve had some pretty dull managers over the last several years but still managed to score big. Scoring goals doesn’t just mean you have a team full of expressive flair players, it can also mean you have a brilliant tactician in charge. Gone on them name this dull managers we have score big with in the PL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 3 hours ago, mozartfox said: Cheers Brendan. I forgot the Belgian National Team is full of duffers. ...just looking from the outside, it is clear there is an issue with his tenure here at this club!!! Either a falling out our an inability to incorporate him into the team unless we set up in a way that is aligned to how he wishes to play. The last time I saw him play was at the KP against Villa (pre covid) and he came across as someone who is compliant in all aspects. He was very much taking instructions from Perez and in that scenario he should have been the one dictating and pulling the players together. If you do not stand up for yourself and use your voice, you get taken for granted and ignored. There is a lot of intelligent play which he brings to the team, where no other player can bring but we play a style where I feel his strength is not used and he looks like a passenger. His movements off the ball and willingness to go ahead of the forwards is a very underused ploy for us. His game just does not align with how we look to play. He is not setting the world alight at Torino and if he came back here, he will be sent back out immediately. There was talk of him usurping Youri when he (Praet) first came to the club, it has not happened, they are two different types of players. Until Praet puts himself forward to control and dictate in a midfield role, and show some aspect of leadership, he is going to be overlooked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: Gone on them name this dull managers we have score big with in the PL? Well, to be fair, many deride BR as a dull manager, but we were only outscored by Manchester City and Manchester United last season and only by Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool the season before that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...just looking from the outside, it is clear there is an issue with his tenure here at this club!!! Either a falling out our an inability to incorporate him into the team unless we set up in a way that is aligned to how he wishes to play. The last time I saw him play was at the KP against Villa (pre covid) and he came across as someone who is compliant in all aspects. He was very much taking instructions from Perez and in that scenario he should have been the one dictating and pulling the players together. If you do not stand up for yourself and use your voice, you get taken for granted and ignored. There is a lot of intelligent play which he brings to the team, where no other player can bring but we play a style where I feel his strength is not used and he looks like a passenger. His movements off the ball and willingness to go ahead of the forwards is a very underused ploy for us. His game just does not align with how we look to play. He is not setting the world alight at Torino and if he came back here, he will be sent back out immediately. There was talk of him usurping Youri when he (Praet) first came to the club, it has not happened, they are two different types of players. Until Praet puts himself forward to control and dictate in a midfield role, and show some aspect of leadership, he is going to be overlooked. To be honest I agree with @Grebfromgrebland. Praet is bang average at Premier League level. People often quote International football as some sort of barometer to prove a point, but it's not really. For teams like England and Belgium the majority of matches are played against vastly inferior opposition and only occasionally do they come up against quality teams at major tournaments. Praet is an ok squad player, but if he was a regular starter then it would probably be in a team that didn't have any aspirations beyond lower to mid-table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 1 minute ago, Jobyfox said: To be honest I agree with @Grebfromgrebland. Praet is bang average at Premier League level. People often quote International football as some sort of barometer to prove a point, but it's not really. For teams like England and Belgium the majority of matches are played against vastly inferior opposition and only occasionally do they come up against quality teams at major tournaments. Praet is an ok squad player, but if he was a regular starter then it would probably be in a team that didn't have any aspirations beyond lower to mid-table. ...just take a look at the Belgium squad...best squad in the world, on paper!!! England have been to finals recently, and Belgium has failed to get pass quarter finals. A poor manager is Belgiums problem, not the quality of players available to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 2 hours ago, coolhandfox said: Gone on them name this dull managers we have score big with in the PL? Pearson puel and Ranieri all had fairly conservative styles of play admittedly Pearson was better in his second stint but once Ranieri made us more his own we were woeful. We still scored plenty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 The original point I made was - is Cantwell better than Praet? Then it morphed into Praet is not good enough and the Belguim National Team only play minnows. FT is fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MPH said: Pearson puel and Ranieri all had fairly conservative styles of play admittedly Pearson was better in his second stint but once Ranieri made us more his own we were woeful. We still scored plenty Yet Rodger teams in 19/20 and 20/21 have managed to outscore them all except the Ranieri team in 2015/16, who scored 68 goals, which he matched in 20/21. He has also managed us in more games where we have scored 4 or more than any other LCFC manager in our PL history. You have to have a little flair in your side to manage that. I think you can accuse him of many things, like being a poor coach defensively but not being able to manage flair players isn't one. I suppose it depend on what you see as flair. Edited 12 January 2022 by coolhandfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 12 January 2022 Share Posted 12 January 2022 2 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Yet Rodger teams in 19/20 and 20/21 have managed to outscore them all except the Ranieri team in 2015/16, who scored 68 goals, which he matched in 20/21. He has also managed us in more games where we have scored 4 or more than any other LCFC manager in our PL history. You have to have a little flair in your side to manage that. I think you can accuse him of many things, like being a poor coach defensively but not being able to manage flair players isn't one. I suppose it depend on what you see as flair. and again just because we score goals doesn’t mean we are bringing out the flair- we could just have a brilliant tactician at the helms.. anyway, prob best to leave it there chap, difference of opinions is ok. Enjoy the rest of your week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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