Popular Post Mr Weller 2 Posted 15 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 15 August 2022 Pearson couldn’t have stopped it - no club can. Rich clubs ride it out, for others it’s more difficult. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 Yes and he also had Mahrez coming through as his replacement. If we already had tielemans replacement in (Soumare!) then there's be a lot less stress about this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 Just now, Grebfromgrebland said: Yes and he also had Mahrez coming through as his replacement. If we already had tielemans replacement in (Soumare!) then there's be a lot less stress about this situation. You can't sell a player if no team comes in for him, maybe we could now start offering him around for £10m as it's better than nothing but given the predicament we are in I'm not even sure that benefits us short term. We would have sold him last summer if a bid of £35-40m came, there wasn't even one derisory bid, we've never ever had one. So I repeat, what could the club have done to safeguard themselves on Tielemans? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wignalll2007 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 Maybe you have better memories than me but I don’t remember Knockert leaving due to refusing to sign a new contract and if that was the situation I don’t think we as a club were that bothered as for a start we didn’t pay 40 million for him and two we didn’t play him that often as he was so inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 14 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Yes and he also had Mahrez coming through as his replacement. If we already had tielemans replacement in (Soumare!) then there's be a lot less stress about this situation. Whoever thought Soumare was going to be a direct replacement for Tielemans wants their head examining!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeePhilpottsBaldSpot Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: If we already had tielemans replacement in (Soumare!) then there's be a lot less stress about this situation. IMO we are loaded with central midfielders. KDH's surprise emergence as being immediately ready for the Premier League and the return of Dennis Praet mean if/when Tielemans & Soumare leave, the money raised/saved can go on strengthening another position. Edited 15 August 2022 by LeePhilpottsBaldSpot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 18 minutes ago, wignalll2007 said: Maybe you have better memories than me but I don’t remember Knockert leaving due to refusing to sign a new contract and if that was the situation I don’t think we as a club were that bothered as for a start we didn’t pay 40 million for him and two we didn’t play him that often as he was so inconsistent. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/knockaert-has-no-regrets-rejecting-leicester-extension The point I'm making is, you say Pearson would never have allowed this situation to happen and I retorted that he'd never been in this position at an established PL club with players that are sought after by massive clubs or who think massive clubs will want them. The one example where a player we'd paid a big fee at the time for and who'd done very well for us is Knockaert and yet he was allowed to reject contracts and walk away on a free. You say that's not the same because we didn't need him but given Pearson never managed a club in the standing that we have been for several years, what evidence have you got for that belief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wignalll2007 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 22 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/knockaert-has-no-regrets-rejecting-leicester-extension The point I'm making is, you say Pearson would never have allowed this situation to happen and I retorted that he'd never been in this position at an established PL club with players that are sought after by massive clubs or who think massive clubs will want them. The one example where a player we'd paid a big fee at the time for and who'd done very well for us is Knockaert and yet he was allowed to reject contracts and walk away on a free. You say that's not the same because we didn't need him but given Pearson never managed a club in the standing that we have been for several years, what evidence have you got for that belief? Ok I take your point. Can you answer me this? Do you think Rodgers is doing a good job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 Just now, wignalll2007 said: Ok I take your point. Can you answer me this? Do you think Rodgers is doing a good job? No I don't 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 I think aresenal make their move later this week they’ve waited a long time we could choose to tell them to jog on as no time to arrange an incoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 From what I saw on Saturday, I don't think Youri gets into that Arsenal side. Not the starting 11 for Prem matches anyway. Their movement was streets ahead of anything we displayed, and Youri was absent. I honestly don't see why they'd want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, taupe said: From what I saw on Saturday, I don't think Youri gets into that Arsenal side. Not the starting 11 for Prem matches anyway. Their movement was streets ahead of anything we displayed, and Youri was absent. I honestly don't see why they'd want him. Because he can play a lot better than he did for us on Saturday - some players simply wouldn’t have managed the heat as well as others. Probably wasn’t the best day to make judgements also, ask any gooner how well xhaka is playing (he is now replicating his Swiss national team performance levels) - when you bring in good players it raises the standard in the squad. Edited 15 August 2022 by st albans fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Bowman Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 7 hours ago, Smudge said: An outfield footballer's career at a high level of earnings is about 15 years, max. How anyone can deride a player for maximizing those earnings is beyond me. We treat players like mercenaries and wonder why they act like mercenaries. I had more sympathy for this argument in the old days, when top footballers earned a decent wage but nowhere near enough to set them up for life. Less so nowadays, given that even the most mediocre Premier League squad player probably earns more in a year than most people see in a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Simoken Posted 15 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 15 August 2022 2 hours ago, wignalll2007 said: Weak leadership and management has caused this situation. No way would this of happened under someone like Nigel Pearson. I think it highlights the current problems we have in a nutshell! whats with a majority of peoples obsession with the Pearson era, it was a terrible period for the club of uncertainty and relegation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 10 minutes ago, Simoken said: whats with a majority of peoples obsession with the Pearson era, it was a terrible period for the club of uncertainty and relegation. I’m by no means a Pearson obsessive, but I’m fairly sure we never got relegated under him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fox_favourite Posted 15 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 15 August 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Simoken said: whats with a majority of peoples obsession with the Pearson era, it was a terrible period for the club of uncertainty and relegation. Promotion out of League one, Championship, survived Premier League and set the foundations for the league win all under his leadership. Yeah, was a really terrible period. Edited 15 August 2022 by fox_favourite 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wignalll2007 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Simoken said: whats with a majority of peoples obsession with the Pearson era, it was a terrible period for the club of uncertainty and relegation. Really a period of uncertainty and relegation? The man got us out of the first division, the Championship and set up the infrastructure that won us the league! Edited 15 August 2022 by wignalll2007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA LAZAROU Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 15 minutes ago, Simoken said: whats with a majority of peoples obsession with the Pearson era, it was a terrible period for the club of uncertainty and relegation. What on earth are you talking about? How long have you been supporting the club? absolute rubbish. He started the whole thing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 6 minutes ago, PAPA LAZAROU said: What on earth are you talking about? How long have you been supporting the club? absolute rubbish. He started the whole thing. That last season with Pearson we only just survived so yeah huge uncertainty.. That Vardy goal decided if we were down or staying. His bizarre behavior on and off the pitch, a total embarrasment and the fact hes way out of his depth in the PL not just with LCFC. who the **** wants that era to return? lets think forwards not backwards. #UPTHERODGERS #WEREMASSSSSSIVE 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 2 hours ago, wignalll2007 said: Weak leadership and management has caused this situation. No way would this of happened under someone like Nigel Pearson. I think it highlights the current problems we have in a nutshell! It did happen under Pearson. In our championship winning season we had a number of players in their last year, with no marquee signings that summer too. Had we not won promotion, we probably would’ve had a heavy rebuild due to a number of key players leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 37 minutes ago, Simoken said: whats with a majority of peoples obsession with the Pearson era, it was a terrible period for the club of uncertainty and relegation. Are you confusing the Pearson era with the era before the Pearson era? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 2 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Let's not forget we've had zero bids for Youri, which the club will be so frustrated over. Not last summer, not this summer. ...as countless posters have said, the agents talk first then the clubs become involved!!! What if Tielemans had a "red flag" issue, that he has to be guaranteed game time in his preferred position for a new club. How many teams out there would be able to offer him that promise, it may well explain why no offers have been received because behind the scenes he is asking for something that clubs are unable to do, or not wish to offer. A club our size would perhaps jump at the chance to recruit him, and somewhere such as Newcastle could see this as a chance to bring in a "keystone". Youri will be here this season and perhaps for the next three seasons, unless someone outthere gives him the role that he wants and on his own terms. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 On 13/08/2022 at 08:02, Sunbury Fox said: I think Praet is a decent player but Youri is on a completely different (higher) level. When Youri leaves I think fans who are sceptical about him will realise just how good he really is. My personal opinion is that he lacks focus and commitment. It's been a contentious subject for more than one season. Had he the focus of, for example Vardy, then his influence on games would be far more significant. He doesn't seem to work on his involvement - seems to float around the activity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 1 hour ago, PAPA LAZAROU said: What on earth are you talking about? How long have you been supporting the club? absolute rubbish. He started the whole thing. Don't think he was around in 1884...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Fox Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 31 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...as countless posters have said, the agents talk first then the clubs become involved!!! What if Tielemans had a "red flag" issue, that he has to be guaranteed game time in his preferred position for a new club. How many teams out there would be able to offer him that promise, it may well explain why no offers have been received because behind the scenes he is asking for something that clubs are unable to do, or not wish to offer. A club our size would perhaps jump at the chance to recruit him, and somewhere such as Newcastle could see this as a chance to bring in a "keystone". Youri will be here this season and perhaps for the next three seasons, unless someone outthere gives him the role that he wants and on his own terms. Unfortunate as it is, he definitely isn’t going to be here for the next 3 seasons. If he doesn’t leave before the end of the window there will be loads of teams interested when he won’t cost them a fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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