taupe Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 It becomes an odd equation; how much is a not 100% Youri worth to us (in footballing terms) He's still a class act, better than many a committed alternative, but how do you decide it? That's where the club's valuation comes in I guess. As the decider, the line in the sand. I've no idea what that valuation is but don't be surprised if Youri stays (unless interest from another club forces Arsenal's hand) this window. There's always January. For me, this is an intriguing story and one told much more quietly and respectively than Fofana's toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 52 minutes ago, taupe said: From https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/youri-tielemans-arsenal-leicester-transfer-24887140 That'd explain the situation. I personally think Arsenal would be insane to wait til the summer. If YT has a good season this year and returns to something like his best form and he's then available for free, Arsenal have zero chance. Barcelona and Madrid will be all over it, Juventus will be circling, they'll all be coming out the woodwork with offers. Arsenal's main advantage at the moment is that none of those clubs can afford to take a punt and it's too much to pay for them for a guy with a year left who just had a mediocre season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Barcelona and Madrid wouldn’t touch Youri no matter what he does this season - he’s not in that class. Liverpool no way, he can’t play in that system. Juventus? I suppose it’s possible, but we’ve seen nothing concrete indicating that’ve ever had serious interest. If I were Arsenal, I’d wait. There are bigger clubs, but not nearly as many as there are smaller ones. The number of clubs bigger than Arsenal who’d actually pursue Tielemans is so small that they have to like their odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I personally think Arsenal would be insane to wait til the summer. It's something that jangles 'not quite right' to me too tbh. For me, Youri can't feature that highly in their plans if they're prepared to gamble. Even from Youri's perspective, it doesn't quite square up for me. That said, if that's the deal what's it matter what I think Edit: I guess @Deeg67is right - where Youri would fit well is kinda niche. Maybe Arsenal are confident he wont tick other club's boxes. Edited 31 August 2022 by taupe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post taupe Posted 31 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 31 August 2022 A mystery club? That'll make negotiating difficult! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 5 minutes ago, taupe said: Even from Youri's perspective, it doesn't quite square up for me Which bit? Definitely makes sense for Youri to wait. Right now it looks like his main option is Arsenal. One small step forwards. They're likely to be a perpetual Europa League club for the next decade at least. If he's up for free next year and he plays himself back in to some good form in the meantime then he'll have far more offers to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 That'll be another good chunk off the wage bill. And reduce the players on the books. Which is the main objective this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post reynard Posted 31 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 31 August 2022 Just now, FoxesWalk said: Got to be Forest they haven't bought anyone yet today. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Just now, reynard said: Got to be Forest they haven't bought anyone yet today. You’d expect it’s Arsenal, assuming he’s not a bullshit merchant. Don’t know if he is reliable or not but lots of people follow him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesTez Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Horrible feeling it might be Liverpool. (No info to support that, just a gut feeling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny_wright Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Survival is worth more than 19m - may as well keep him now and let him walk next summer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 1 minute ago, taupe said: Arsenal would hardly be a mystery. Or he just doesn’t know who it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Just now, jonny_wright said: Survival is worth more than 19m - may as well keep him now and let him walk next summer Yes, I reckon that'll be in the mix of thinking. Depends who (indeed if) we have lined up as incoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 (edited) Remember we paid £15m for Vestergaard with one year left on his deal last summer, and Villa did the same with Ings for £30m… I’d almost be tempted to keep him for £19m, might keep us out of a relegation scrap if he continues to put in the effort. Edited 31 August 2022 by FoxesWalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 £19m is an insult. Rather have another year of him and let him go for free next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonnieTodger Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 We’re getting crap offers from all angles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 19m is a low ball offer however that means. £19m to spend and also a years less wages. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was Liverpool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyJim1987 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 24 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Which bit? Definitely makes sense for Youri to wait. Right now it looks like his main option is Arsenal. One small step forwards. They're likely to be a perpetual Europa League club for the next decade at least. If he's up for free next year and he plays himself back in to some good form in the meantime then he'll have far more offers to consider. Why would they be a Europa League club for a decade? I know it's early days but we are bottom and they are top. They play Infront of 60k in London and pay higher wages than us. They have way more chance of winning things and being in the top 4 than we do currently, it's got to be fairly attractive. Midfield is their weakest point aswell, he's better than Xhaka, Elneny and Sambi Lokonga, meaning he will play regularly as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes96 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Didn’t Klopp say yesterday they had bid for another player but he chose to go to another club. Wondered at the time if that could be Youri, who has instead agreed to go to the Arse. Hopefully, £19m was Liverpool’s bid (mystery club) and instead he’s going to Arsenal for more like £25m?! 2+2=5 and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reynard Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 1 minute ago, teblin said: 19m is a low ball offer however that means. £19m to spend and also a years less wages. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was Liverpool. I'm not sure it does mean that. We're not getting 70 million to spend from Fofana as far as I can see. Also we lose his wages but we have no one at the club who plays like he does and creates the chances he does. So would need to pay someone else a good proportion of his wages. I don't see any likely replacement being anywhere near his level and certainly not for 19 million. Not sure we have time or money or available wages to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 (edited) This 'mystery club' was actually a masterstroke from Rudkin. He picked up the blower to some random Twitter wannabe and said "keep this on the down low but we've had an offer on Youri, I can't tell you from who at this moment but I will let you know because I respect what you do" Edited 31 August 2022 by taupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingfox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Arsenal & Liverpool both need a midfielder like him, hopefully we can hold out for closer to £25 million. Ideally if we have any departures it needs to be Tielemans & Soyuncu, you can’t let those two walk away for free next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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