Summer 2022 priorities (and realistic options)

[Leicester_Loyal]

On silly money, 27 years of age this month, if we bought him we'd get hardly anything back for him when we came to sell in 2-3 years.

 

Lets go back to signing young championship talent with the odd signing from abroad, paying 30m for other EPL cast offs is something we should actively be avoiding.

[JimJams]

We could do Arsenal a favour with either of 2 positions in Pepe but preferably giving Saliba an opportunity. Work out a loan to buy option where they can get a decent fee which we obviously only need to take up if we think he's worth it. So maybe 20ish for Saliba. Or 25ish for Pepe if we went with him. Personally would prefer Saliba. And given Arteta doesn't want him at all, could drive the price down further. Suppose it depends what Marseille would be willing to pay.

Edited 2 May 2022 by JimJams

[An Sionnach]

Every other club knows our policy now ,they can see us coming. We come in for a promising young player with the idea of showcasing them and increasing their value. So what do they do? Either they ratchet up the selling price or they demand a large percentage of any sell on fee. St Etienne got a record fee for  a teenage defender in Fofana and it wouldn't surprise me if they get a sell on percentage as well. 

[JimJams]

And in the case of Fofana thats a bit of a "so what?" Isn't it? 

I'd be quite happy with everyone charging a large amount and getting a sell on if they're as promising as Fofana. We'd still profit and that's better than not getting them.

 

[desertfox2]

3 hours ago, JimJams said:

We could do Arsenal a favour with either of 2 positions in Pepe but preferably giving Saliba an opportunity. Work out a loan to buy option where they can get a decent fee which we obviously only need to take up if we think he's worth it. So maybe 20ish for Saliba. Or 25ish for Pepe if we went with him. Personally would prefer Saliba. And given Arteta doesn't want him at all, could drive the price down further. Suppose it depends what Marseille would be willing to pay.

They are supposedly one of the teams in for Tielemans too so a chance at some horsetrading from us if they do really want him and want Pepe and Saliba out perhaps. 

[Vindaloo FOX]

We are in for Pape Abou Cissé

[Dahnsouff]

8 minutes ago, Vindaloo FOX said:

We are in for Pape Abou Cissé

He looks fewkin massive.   

[Ryy]

Axel Witsel On a free?

[Scotch]

We should definately be looking at sorting CB with a free transfer or two. Tarkowski, Ginter, Romagnoli, Zagadou or oven Denayer are all worth a look. 

 

Alongside Boubacar Kamara at CDM and possibly Erikson or Lingard at ACM (although less keen on the last two) there are some options of vastly improving the squad without the need of a transfer fee that would eat into what we will need to spend on wingers (Lookman and a RW). 

 

Would love Tolisso and Kessie here too but they will go to bigger sides (arguably so will Ginter). 

[coolhandfox]

Priorities, players with character as well as ability. 

[-sodapop]

1 hour ago, Scotch said:

We should definately be looking at sorting CB with a free transfer or two. Tarkowski, Ginter, Romagnoli, Zagadou or oven Denayer are all worth a look. 

 

Alongside Boubacar Kamara at CDM and possibly Erikson or Lingard at ACM (although less keen on the last two) there are some options of vastly improving the squad without the need of a transfer fee that would eat into what we will need to spend on wingers (Lookman and a RW). 

 

Would love Tolisso and Kessie here too but they will go to bigger sides (arguably so will Ginter). 

Ginter allegedly off to Freiburg, which is a surprising move

[Ric Flair]

20 minutes ago, -sodapop said:

Ginter allegedly off to Freiburg, which is a surprising move

What on earth

[-sodapop]

17 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

What on earth

Bild source here in German

 

It's his boyhood club and I can only assume he didn't want to leave the country. Good for him though, got to respect a choice like that when giants like inter are also in for you

Edited 2 May 2022 by -sodapop

[moore_94]

10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

What on earth

Born in Freiburg and came up through their youth system

[Tommy Fresh]

3 hours ago, Nannypig7 said:

Axel Witsel On a free?

Out of respect to Wasilewski it's a no 

[sacreblueits442]

10 hours ago, desertfox2 said:

Arsenal apparently ready to sell Pepe for 25m. Whoever signed off on 72m for him probably went to work for Barca next.. . He scored 16 last season and a left footed, RW who knows the league but not going to play ahead of Saka. West Ham supposed to be interested. Anyone think we should be all over that? 

...not sure why they would have paid that much!!!

 A winger who has scored 16 goals this season and for £25m, is not to be sniffed at. He seems a very flukey player and just not sure he is what we want. 

[NasPb]

Go get Carlos soler from Valencia. Available for around 25 million. Ffs show some ambition. Still only 25 too. 

[Dr Marco]

Jordan Veretout

[Leicester_Loyal]

Think I'd take Eriksen on a free, feel like he'll do another 12 months at Brentford though.

[Ric Flair]

Trying to work out how we get the necessary players in required given we know that Soyuncu and Tielemans will likely go for knockdown fees and there might be an element of brinkmanship throughout the summer on those where we could be in limbo until its resolved.

 

Will we have to look at some stop gap loan moves to account for this. For example we need 2 new CB's, ideally 1 of those is a free transfer in the mould of Ginter, Tarkowski, Kamara etc but we don't tend to fair very well when competing for highly sought after players on a free, I think we tend to swerve the games agents play and the astronomical fees. So a loan move for a player like Levi Colwill for a year or Chris Richards from Bayern could well give us a promising option whilst we then try to negotiate who replaces Soyuncu and his departure before the window is closed and we then risk losing him for free in due course.

 

The same issues in midfield, there is so much uncertainty with up to 6 of our midfielders with Hamza, Praet, Mendy, Soumare, Tielemans and Perez all likely to be in the offing. Can we have the freedom to go ahead and pursue our main targets without knowing the fate of the majority of them or do we have to again look at a loan or two as no doubt at least 2 of the above will fail to secure permanent moves and in which case we'd look to get them out on loan instead.

 

The big priority replacement of Tielemans could be a stressful encounter, there's plenty who think we might not need such a creative type of player but if so it's essential our main signing is the elusive right winger who brings 20+ goal contributions otherwise we're collectively going to be worse off. 

 

It's going to be a roller coaster of a summer. Rudkin is in for a hectic one, not only will he be negotiating various ins and outs but without a head of recruitment there'll be a lot of pressure in light of a suspect few transfer windows from the previous regime to ensure that the due diligence has been done over and over on the plan A, B, C targets that we have to look at as we go through this crucial window.

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, Dr Marco said:

Jordan Veretout

Nah, turned us down for Villa the season we won the league

[Tommy Fresh]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Trying to work out how we get the necessary players in required given we know that Soyuncu and Tielemans will likely go for knockdown fees and there might be an element of brinkmanship throughout the summer on those where we could be in limbo until its resolved.

 

Will we have to look at some stop gap loan moves to account for this. For example we need 2 new CB's, ideally 1 of those is a free transfer in the mould of Ginter, Tarkowski, Kamara etc but we don't tend to fair very well when competing for highly sought after players on a free, I think we tend to swerve the games agents play and the astronomical fees. So a loan move for a player like Levi Colwill for a year or Chris Richards from Bayern could well give us a promising option whilst we then try to negotiate who replaces Soyuncu and his departure before the window is closed and we then risk losing him for free in due course.

 

The same issues in midfield, there is so much uncertainty with up to 6 of our midfielders with Hamza, Praet, Mendy, Soumare, Tielemans and Perez all likely to be in the offing. Can we have the freedom to go ahead and pursue our main targets without knowing the fate of the majority of them or do we have to again look at a loan or two as no doubt at least 2 of the above will fail to secure permanent moves and in which case we'd look to get them out on loan instead.

 

The big priority replacement of Tielemans could be a stressful encounter, there's plenty who think we might not need such a creative type of player but if so it's essential our main signing is the elusive right winger who brings 20+ goal contributions otherwise we're collectively going to be worse off. 

 

It's going to be a roller coaster of a summer. Rudkin is in for a hectic one, not only will he be negotiating various ins and outs but without a head of recruitment there'll be a lot of pressure in light of a suspect few transfer windows from the previous regime to ensure that the due diligence has been done over and over on the plan A, B, C targets that we have to look at as we go through this crucial window.

After someone mentioned about looking at clubs like Schalke, I'm not going to stop banging on about Thiaw.

[AKCJ]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Trying to work out how we get the necessary players in required given we know that Soyuncu and Tielemans will likely go for knockdown fees and there might be an element of brinkmanship throughout the summer on those where we could be in limbo until its resolved.

 

Will we have to look at some stop gap loan moves to account for this. For example we need 2 new CB's, ideally 1 of those is a free transfer in the mould of Ginter, Tarkowski, Kamara etc but we don't tend to fair very well when competing for highly sought after players on a free, I think we tend to swerve the games agents play and the astronomical fees. So a loan move for a player like Levi Colwill for a year or Chris Richards from Bayern could well give us a promising option whilst we then try to negotiate who replaces Soyuncu and his departure before the window is closed and we then risk losing him for free in due course.

 

The same issues in midfield, there is so much uncertainty with up to 6 of our midfielders with Hamza, Praet, Mendy, Soumare, Tielemans and Perez all likely to be in the offing. Can we have the freedom to go ahead and pursue our main targets without knowing the fate of the majority of them or do we have to again look at a loan or two as no doubt at least 2 of the above will fail to secure permanent moves and in which case we'd look to get them out on loan instead.

 

The big priority replacement of Tielemans could be a stressful encounter, there's plenty who think we might not need such a creative type of player but if so it's essential our main signing is the elusive right winger who brings 20+ goal contributions otherwise we're collectively going to be worse off. 

 

It's going to be a roller coaster of a summer. Rudkin is in for a hectic one, not only will he be negotiating various ins and puts but without a head of recruitment there'll be a lot of pressure in light of a suspect few transfer windows from the previous regime to ensure that the due diligence has been done over and over on the plan A, B, C targets that we have to look at as we go through this crucial window.

I think ultimately we're in a similar position now as we were in 2018 Summer under Puel.

 

We kind of need to accept that we can't afford/attract top players given there's a fairly large chance we won't be in Europe next season and we'll finish mid-table.

 

In that summer we signed Maddison, Ricardo, Evans and Soyuncu. Also Benkovic who i'm sure would have been a success had he not been so unfortunate with injuries.

 

We need a similar hit-rate with our signings this summer but we also know that we can't afford to sign proven players entering the prime years of their career.

 

The likes of Noni Madueke, Brennan Johnson, Charles De Ketelaere etc are who we should target (and by the sounds of it, we are).

 

Roll the dice a bit, accept we won't be in Europe for a couple of years and start the mini-rebuild while we build that spine of the likes of Barnes, Maddison, Justin, Fofana, KDH and Daka who are all plenty young enough.

[Ric Flair]

10 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

After someone mentioned about looking at clubs like Schalke, I'm not going to stop banging on about Thiaw.

Only problem there could be work permit as Bundesliga.2 won't be enough to get a work permit alone.

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

There's very few players in the world who are capable of doing that in the Premier League, let alone attainable ones for a club in our position. 

Barnes was on course for it last season at left wing. We need a player capable of that from the right. In reality 15 goal contributions from the right would be a significant improvement on what we've recently had. To go with a more combative midfield 3 that doesn't get 5-10 goal contributions a season like Tielemans means they have to come from elsewhere. We're already struggling with getting 20 a season from Vardy now so that right wing position is vital we get an elite talent in otherwise we've no chance of top 6 any time soon, however difficult the prospect.