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Summer 2022 priorities (and realistic options)

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If we're that broke you'd imagine we're after frees....which no one is suggesting we are.

 

I'm very confused about what we're going to do this summer.

 

Surely we can't expect 6 players without some decent net spend, particularly as they have to improve the first 11 

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8 hours ago, lcfc sheff said:

Kinda, 90m losses suggests we need sales which are probably gonna be: (this is just my opinion) hamza, iheanacho, Perez, vestergaard and Soyuncu

I think Tielemans and Soumare should be added to your list.

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29 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

So Torino will not make Brekalo’s loan a permanent switch so they can afford Praet (Allegedly), so is Brekalo any good? Seems to play LW, but can play AM and RW

Brekalo has told Torino he doesn’t want to stay (rather than Torino not wanting him)

 

I have liked him for a couple of years during his time at Wolfsburg, but would say Lookman is probably just as good if not better really and the cost for both is probably very similar

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1 hour ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

If we're that broke you'd imagine we're after frees....which no one is suggesting we are.

 

I'm very confused about what we're going to do this summer.

 

Surely we can't expect 6 players without some decent net spend, particularly as they have to improve the first 11 

It's a strange one, we keep being reminded that the rebuild will have to be funded by outgoings but isn't that obvious? No team goes and signs 6 new players without getting rid of a fair few as you can only ever register 25 players anyway.

 

I personally don't see how we get 6 in as realistically we need 8-10 out as I don't see us having a 25 man squad next season anyway, certainly not all of players we want to keep as you simply can't keep that many happy without Europe. 

 

If its true that we are facing £90m losses (not sure what this relates to unless its just the culmination of problems we're facing since covid and the training ground and stadium expansion) then where will significant funds be coming from? To get 6 in we'd likely need to raise £100-120m in transfer fees which isn't possible without selling a key first team player.

 

If finances are tight we can still get some deals done but I'm nervous about the sorts of players we'd go for, we've not shopped cheaply for a while and it's a new regime since we were very good at doing so.

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9 hours ago, lcfc sheff said:

Kinda, 90m losses suggests we need sales which are probably gonna be: (this is just my opinion) hamza, iheanacho, Perez, vestergaard and Soyuncu

We could easily get £90m

 

Selling Cags, Youri and Kalechi alone would raise more than that. 
 

We will probably see Mendy go, Vesty will be sold as will Bertrand for small fees. Praet will also be let go. 
 

There’s no point getting hung up on articles or hear say, the club will operate within their means as always and in pretty sure Brendan wouldn’t be talking of a squad refresh if discussions were not already had. We will be fine, unless anyone has spotted Rudkin playing the flute at the clock tower? 

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4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

It's a strange one, we keep being reminded that the rebuild will have to be funded by outgoings but isn't that obvious? No team goes and signs 6 new players without getting rid of a fair few as you can only ever register 25 players anyway.

 

I personally don't see how we get 6 in as realistically we need 8-10 out as I don't see us having a 25 man squad next season anyway, certainly not all of players we want to keep as you simply can't keep that many happy without Europe. 

 

If its true that we are facing £90m losses (not sure what this relates to unless its just the culmination of problems we're facing since covid and the training ground and stadium expansion) then where will significant funds be coming from? To get 6 in we'd likely need to raise £100-120m in transfer fees which isn't possible without selling a key first team player.

 

If finances are tight we can still get some deals done but I'm nervous about the sorts of players we'd go for, we've not shopped cheaply for a while and it's a new regime since we were very good at doing so.

The club have probably told Percy and other trusted journalists to put the word out that we’re broke, hopefully so we can lower transfer fees at the negotiation table like we’re doing with Lookman!! 
 

If I recall correctly we said we have no finances last summer, yet we still had a net spend of 50m+.
 

The big worry in this article is the idea that we need 6 players. Sorry but how many clubs get it spot on 6 times in a summer window? It rarely happens. Unfortunately this signals to me some poor transfers are coming and we can expect at least one dud like Ryan Bertrand, possibly more.

 

I think we can bypass the need for 6 players if Brendan puts his ego to one side and gives a couple players a chance.. Soumare being the prime example. Maybe we could also promote 1 or 2 players from the academy.
 

I am really worried about this ‘rebuild’. 6 players = disaster in my opinion.

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There's an big crop of out of contract players this summer to be fair (i know some will be spoken for/unatainable but still...)

 

Premier Leauge

 

Paul Pogba (Man Utd)

Antonio Rudiger (Chelsea)

Andreas Christensen (Chelsea)

James Tarkowski (Burnley)

Alexandre Lacazette (Arsenal)

Jesse Lingard (Man Utd)

Christian Eriksen (Brentford)

Sean Longstaff (Newcastle)

Divock Origi (Liverpool)

Eddie Nketiah (Arsenal)

Mohamed Elneny (Arsenal)

Roman Saiss (Wolves)

Jeffrey Schlupp (Crystal Palace)

Daniel Amartey (Leicester)

Pascal Gross (Brighton)

Jordan Ayew (Crystal Palace)

Jonjoe Kenny (Everton)

Edinson Cavani (Man Utd)

Nicolas N'Koulou (Watford)

Ben Mee (Burnley)

Andriy Yarmolenko (West Ham)

Juan Mata (Man Utd)

Joao Moutinho(Wolves)

Loris Karius (Liverpool)

Danny Welbeck (Brighton)

Fabian Delph (Everton)

Angelo Ogbonna (West Ham)

Fernandinho (Man City)

James Milner (Liverpool)

Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

 

 

La Liga

 

Ousmane Dembele (Barcelona)

Serge Aurier (Villarreal)

Adnan Januzaj (Real Sociedad)

Luis Suarez (Atletico Madrid)

Luka Modric (Real Madrid)

Enis Bardhi (Levante)

Isco (Real Madrid)

Felipe (Atletico Madrid)

Sergi Roberto (Barcelona)

Joselu (Alaves)

Cristian Tello (Real Betis)

Sergio Asenjo (Villarreal)

Sime Vrsaljko (Atletico Madrid)

Gareth Bale (Real Madrid)

Denis Cheryshev (Valencia)

Marcelo (Real Madrid)

Radamel Falcao (Rayo Vallecano)

Carlos Bacca (Granada)

Nolito (Celta Vigo)

Joaquin (Real Betis)

Nacho Monreal (Real Sociedad)

Javier Pastore (Elche)

Martin Caceres (Levante)

Bebe (Rayo Vallecano)

Dani Alves (Barcelona)

 

 

Serie A

 

Paulo Dybala (Juventus)

Franck Kessie (AC Milan)

Andrea Belotti (Torino)

Lorenzo Insigne (Napoli) - JOINING TORONTO on July 1

Alessio Romagnoli (AC Milan)

Luiz Felipe (Lazio)

Federico Bernardeschi (Juventus)

Ivan Perisic (Inter)

Henrik Mkhitaryan (Roma)

Adam Marusic (Lazio)

Zlatan Ibrahimovic (AC Milan)

Mattia De Sciglio (Juventus)

Thomas Strakosha (Lazio)

Matias Vecino (Inter)

Samir Handanovic(Inter)

Arturo Vidal(Inter)

Danilo D'Ambrosio(Napoli)

Dries Mertens (Napoli)

David Ospina (Napoli)

Patric (Lazio)

Lucas Leiva (Lazio)

Giacomo Bonaventura (Fiorentina)

Fabio Quagliarella (Sampdoria)

Franck Ribery (Salernitana)

Sebastian Giovinco (Sampdoria)

Aleksandar Kolarov (Inter)

Salvatore Sirigu (Genoa)

 

 

Ligue 1

 

Kylian Mbappe (PSG)

Boubacar Kamara (Marseille)

Jason Denayer (Lyon)

Angel Di Maria (PSG)

Xeka (Lille)

Randal Kolo Muani (Nantes) - JOINING FRANKFURT on July 1

Djibril Sidibe (Monaco)

Cesc Fabregas (Monaco)

Burak Yilmaz (Lille)

Eliaquim Mangala (Saint-Etienne)

Hatem Ben Arfa (Lille)

Jose Fonte (Lille)

Xavi Simons (PSG)

 

 

Bundesliga

 

 

Florian Grillitsch (Hoffenheim)

Corentin Tolisso (Bayern Munich)

Dan-Axel Zagadou (Dortmund)

John Brooks (Wolfsburg)

Niklas Stark (Hertha)

Marcel Halstenberg (Leipzig)

Axel Witsel (Borussia Dortmund)

Kevin-Prince Boateng (Hertha Berlin)

 

 

 

 

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Of the above i've picked out some 'Proper Brendan Signings' lol 

 

Lingard

Januzaj

Belotti

 

 

They fit his, 'broken and I can fix them/realise that original potential' type perfectly!

 

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6 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Of the above i've picked out some 'Proper Brendan Signings' lol 

 

Lingard

Januzaj

Belotti

 

 

They fit his, 'broken and I can fix them/realise that original potential' type perfectly!

 

Would be classic Brendan lol 

 

Some great talents in that list though, hopefully we’re interested in a few of them! 

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**** it, break the bank - players like Colwill, De Ketaleare and Madueke are all assets which will essentially increase in value over time. We're a selling club, just make sure we bring in some players who are going to make us a tidy profit down the line.

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CB Tarkowski - Free

CB Bremer - £30m

CDM Kamara - Free

CM - Eriksen - Free

LW - Lookman -£15m

RW - No idea tbh

FW - CDK - £30m

 

Out....

 

Vesty - £10m?

Amartey £5m?

Soyncu - £25m?

Bertrand - Free

Hamza - £5m?

Mendy - £5m?

Praet - £15m?

Youri - £30m?

Nacho - £25m?

 

Assuming we spent about £30m on a RW, that's a profit of about £15m. I know this is a very Football manager style rebuild and my numbers may be off/no guarantee could move those players on but talking in a purely "what I would realistically want" this is what I would go for. It doesn't really address the £90m shortfall that there apparently is but it would also with a positive net spend at least. 

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Would anyone take Moutinho from Wolves? Just noticed he's out of contract at the end of the season.

 

Might be that older, more experienced head we desperately lack in the middle of the pitch. Would be a shrewd bit of business I feel.

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18 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

If we do need an experienced winner then I'm fascinated whether we could get Witsel or Di Maria. Both play in key positions we need to strengthen. 

Fab has just suggested Di Maria is in talks with  Juve. Can’t see him coming here given his previous spell in the premier league. 
 

Witsel I would take and would be happy with. 

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1 hour ago, AjcW said:

There's an big crop of out of contract players this summer to be fair (i know some will be spoken for/unatainable but still...)

 

Premier Leauge

 

Paul Pogba (Man Utd)

Antonio Rudiger (Chelsea)

Andreas Christensen (Chelsea)

James Tarkowski (Burnley)

Alexandre Lacazette (Arsenal)

Jesse Lingard (Man Utd)

Christian Eriksen (Brentford)

Sean Longstaff (Newcastle)

Divock Origi (Liverpool)

Eddie Nketiah (Arsenal)

Mohamed Elneny (Arsenal)

Roman Saiss (Wolves)

Jeffrey Schlupp (Crystal Palace)

Daniel Amartey (Leicester)

Pascal Gross (Brighton)

Jordan Ayew (Crystal Palace)

Jonjoe Kenny (Everton)

Edinson Cavani (Man Utd)

Nicolas N'Koulou (Watford)

Ben Mee (Burnley)

Andriy Yarmolenko (West Ham)

Juan Mata (Man Utd)

Joao Moutinho(Wolves)

Loris Karius (Liverpool)

Danny Welbeck (Brighton)

Fabian Delph (Everton)

Angelo Ogbonna (West Ham)

Fernandinho (Man City)

James Milner (Liverpool)

Ashley Young (Aston Villa)

 

 

La Liga

 

Ousmane Dembele (Barcelona)

Serge Aurier (Villarreal)

Adnan Januzaj (Real Sociedad)

Luis Suarez (Atletico Madrid)

Luka Modric (Real Madrid)

Enis Bardhi (Levante)

Isco (Real Madrid)

Felipe (Atletico Madrid)

Sergi Roberto (Barcelona)

Joselu (Alaves)

Cristian Tello (Real Betis)

Sergio Asenjo (Villarreal)

Sime Vrsaljko (Atletico Madrid)

Gareth Bale (Real Madrid)

Denis Cheryshev (Valencia)

Marcelo (Real Madrid)

Radamel Falcao (Rayo Vallecano)

Carlos Bacca (Granada)

Nolito (Celta Vigo)

Joaquin (Real Betis)

Nacho Monreal (Real Sociedad)

Javier Pastore (Elche)

Martin Caceres (Levante)

Bebe (Rayo Vallecano)

Dani Alves (Barcelona)

 

 

Serie A

 

Paulo Dybala (Juventus)

Franck Kessie (AC Milan)

Andrea Belotti (Torino)

Lorenzo Insigne (Napoli) - JOINING TORONTO on July 1

Alessio Romagnoli (AC Milan)

Luiz Felipe (Lazio)

Federico Bernardeschi (Juventus)

Ivan Perisic (Inter)

Henrik Mkhitaryan (Roma)

Adam Marusic (Lazio)

Zlatan Ibrahimovic (AC Milan)

Mattia De Sciglio (Juventus)

Thomas Strakosha (Lazio)

Matias Vecino (Inter)

Samir Handanovic(Inter)

Arturo Vidal(Inter)

Danilo D'Ambrosio(Napoli)

Dries Mertens (Napoli)

David Ospina (Napoli)

Patric (Lazio)

Lucas Leiva (Lazio)

Giacomo Bonaventura (Fiorentina)

Fabio Quagliarella (Sampdoria)

Franck Ribery (Salernitana)

Sebastian Giovinco (Sampdoria)

Aleksandar Kolarov (Inter)

Salvatore Sirigu (Genoa)

 

 

Ligue 1

 

Kylian Mbappe (PSG)

Boubacar Kamara (Marseille)

Jason Denayer (Lyon)

Angel Di Maria (PSG)

Xeka (Lille)

Randal Kolo Muani (Nantes) - JOINING FRANKFURT on July 1

Djibril Sidibe (Monaco)

Cesc Fabregas (Monaco)

Burak Yilmaz (Lille)

Eliaquim Mangala (Saint-Etienne)

Hatem Ben Arfa (Lille)

Jose Fonte (Lille)

Xavi Simons (PSG)

 

 

Bundesliga

 

 

Florian Grillitsch (Hoffenheim)

Corentin Tolisso (Bayern Munich)

Dan-Axel Zagadou (Dortmund)

John Brooks (Wolfsburg)

Niklas Stark (Hertha)

Marcel Halstenberg (Leipzig)

Axel Witsel (Borussia Dortmund)

Kevin-Prince Boateng (Hertha Berlin)

 

 

 

 

Quagliarelia, Ibra, Dani Alves and Joaquin in. Then Rodgers to claim we're an inexperienced side when we lose our first game.

 

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Have we played 3-4-1-2 this season?

I think it could suit us and be a good formation option next year. Maddison makes so much happen in that 10 position. I’d like to see two strikers in front of him. We need more incision. That formation should help is defensively too. 

What personnel/new signings would suit it best? 
 


 

 

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Couple of talented youngsters at Man City going into the last year of their contract: 


Luke Mbete (18, Left Footed CB)

Romeo Lavia (18, Defensive Mid)

 

Like Chelsea, they always sell a few youngsters every window. Man City’s academy is ridiculous, they have so much potential.

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1 hour ago, Shane said:

Couple of talented youngsters at Man City going into the last year of their contract: 


Luke Mbete (18, Left Footed CB)

Romeo Lavia (18, Defensive Mid)

 

Like Chelsea, they always sell a few youngsters every window. Man City’s academy is ridiculous, they have so much potential.

Omari Hutchinson is also only 1 year left, he is OBSCENE

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3 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

If we do need an experienced winner then I'm fascinated whether we could get Witsel or Di Maria. Both play in key positions we need to strengthen. 

Mertens if he's not retiring. He's still got it.

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