Supergray22 Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 If zinchenko fits from a financial side and he wants to come here I think this would be a very good signing. His handling of recent events has been very mature and he is clearly very talented. He would be a good signing to replace Tielemans in my opinion and has a good temperamnet from what I can see. I cannot see it happening though as why would Man City want to let him go, unless of course the player has stated he wants to leave. I may have just missed this though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 13 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: No chance with the way Brendan plays. He couldn't play out from the back, he's just an old fashioned win it back and lump it forward centre back. Good in the air and a good defender but would be as unsuitable in our system as big Yan is given his lack of pace and our high line Its funny how Mee and Tarkowski are unsuitable but Evans is. Jonny is a great , intelligent CB but pace is not his strongest point. Our high line tactics are going to be exposed sooner or later anyway as Man.City and Liverpool's increasingly are. A fast attacker who can stay onside and an accurate passing deep lying midfielder can unstitch this tactic quickly. . Of course you need to beat the in your face press but a strong midfielder who can hold up the ball can do this. Pirlo would have loved to play against Man.City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 23 minutes ago, Supergray22 said: If zinchenko fits from a financial side and he wants to come here I think this would be a very good signing. His handling of recent events has been very mature and he is clearly very talented. He would be a good signing to replace Tielemans in my opinion and has a good temperamnet from what I can see. I cannot see it happening though as why would Man City want to let him go, unless of course the player has stated he wants to leave. I may have just missed this though! Man City are going in for Cucurella apparently, so if that happens it pushes Zinchenko down to 3rd choice left back, and you'd assume that he'd want out and they'd be happy with the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 Woodz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MalletFox said: Not sure if it’s been mentioned in previous pages here, but I wouldn’t be against bringing Ben Mee in on a free transfer (just seen he’s left Burnley), a left sided CB, steady enough and aggressive. Think he would be a good addition. I've said this before that Burnley fans on Twitter have said the reason Tarkowarski been really poor this season is because he needs Ben Mee to play along side of him to give him instructions and talk to him. When Ben Mee's been injured Tarkowarski's been s*** ........Ben could be our next Evans Edited 11 June 2022 by CrispinLA in Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyC74 Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 37 minutes ago, Supergray22 said: If zinchenko fits from a financial side and he wants to come here I think this would be a very good signing. His handling of recent events has been very mature and he is clearly very talented. He would be a good signing to replace Tielemans in my opinion and has a good temperamnet from what I can see. I cannot see it happening though as why would Man City want to let him go, unless of course the player has stated he wants to leave. I may have just missed this though! Seen reports he is open to a move so long as buying club is willing to play him in midfield (where we plays for his country). At 25 he is a good age but 2 yrs on his contract so you won’t see much change from £25-30m which is top end of what the sale to Youri will net us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 55 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Its funny how Mee and Tarkowski are unsuitable but Evans is. Jonny is a great , intelligent CB but pace is not his strongest point. Our high line tactics are going to be exposed sooner or later anyway as Man.City and Liverpool's increasingly are. A fast attacker who can stay onside and an accurate passing deep lying midfielder can unstitch this tactic quickly. . Of course you need to beat the in your face press but a strong midfielder who can hold up the ball can do this. Pirlo would have loved to play against Man.City. You can't compare Evans and Mee. Evans is a ball playing defender who can comfortably spray passes around and Mee is just an old fashioned centre back who will just hoof it clear and isn't comfortable on the ball at all. Evans doesn't need to be quick as he is one step ahead of most in his brain. Evans is a rolls Royce compared to Mee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 4 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: You can't compare Evans and Mee. Evans is a ball playing defender who can comfortably spray passes around and Mee is just an old fashioned centre back who will just hoof it clear and isn't comfortable on the ball at all. Evans doesn't need to be quick as he is one step ahead of most in his brain. Evans is a rolls Royce compared to Mee I agree he is a different class to Mee , I was just talking about pace. However when it comes to the Huth - Morgan type of defending where ability in the air, blocking and legal , penalty area tackling are concerned Tarkowski and Mee have been very effective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 48 minutes ago, jayfox26 said: You can't compare Evans and Mee. Evans is a ball playing defender who can comfortably spray passes around and Mee is just an old fashioned centre back who will just hoof it clear and isn't comfortable on the ball at all. Evans doesn't need to be quick as he is one step ahead of most in his brain. Evans is a rolls Royce compared to Mee Jonny Evans also had a career littered with trophies. Ben Mee doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 43 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: I agree he is a different class to Mee , I was just talking about pace. However when it comes to the Huth - Morgan type of defending where ability in the air, blocking and legal , penalty area tackling are concerned Tarkowski and Mee have been very effective. Agreed but it doesn't fit the way we play anymore under Rodgers, which is why Mee wouldn't fit here. And at 33 years old he's well past his best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 46 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: I agree he is a different class to Mee , I was just talking about pace. However when it comes to the Huth - Morgan type of defending where ability in the air, blocking and legal , penalty area tackling are concerned Tarkowski and Mee have been very effective. .. I would suppose if we sat deep and play on the counter, then Mee would be an effective option!!! As far as i can remember, everytime we come up against him, he has been a very difficult wall to break down. He reads the game well and is top class when it comes to putting his body on the line to make blocks, and he is quicker than you think at closing down. The big question is, can he play a high line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silebyfox_89 Posted 11 June 2022 Share Posted 11 June 2022 Zinchenko would be a very under whelming signing, given our budget I'd be looking elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalletFox Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 On 11/06/2022 at 12:51, jayfox26 said: No chance with the way Brendan plays. He couldn't play out from the back, he's just an old fashioned win it back and lump it forward centre back. Good in the air and a good defender but would be as unsuitable in our system as big Yan is given his lack of pace and our high line Is Mee any slower than Evans? Definitely don’t put him in the Vesty bracket for pace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lcfcsnow Posted 12 June 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 12 June 2022 I wasn't sure where to post this but it seems a trend lately that we're so slow at getting things done. For example for the last few seasons we hardly have any friendlies scheduled, still not released the kits for next season, transfer dealings both in and out seem delayed, we don't make decisions on players quick enough and have an endless amount of backup players hanging around (poor safe recruitment played a part here but are we missing out on targets due to us being hesitant here too?). 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 52 minutes ago, MalletFox said: Is Mee any slower than Evans? Definitely don’t put him in the Vesty bracket for pace! As I said earlier, you cannot compare Evans and Mee, Evans is a miles better player so doesn't need to have pace. Mee would be so unsuited to our style of play, it would be frightening to watch. Plus we really shouldn't be looking at 33 year old players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jeffschlupp Posted 12 June 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 12 June 2022 1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said: I wasn't sure where to post this but it seems a trend lately that we're so slow at getting things done. For example for the last few seasons we hardly have any friendlies scheduled, still not released the kits for next season, transfer dealings both in and out seem delayed, we don't make decisions on players quick enough and have an endless amount of backup players hanging around (poor safe recruitment played a part here but are we missing out on targets due to us being hesitant here too?). Transfers are going to seem slower than the last few years because we are back to 31 August deadline days. We did have two years on the spin of the window being reduced to before the start of the season, then a COVID window extended into October, and then deals were done quickly around tournaments last summer. It's rare teams do much in June at all. I still cannot believe people continue to criticise LCFC for the speed at which they do their business - would you rather us sign 6 players at £10m extra each now, or perhaps rush through some medicals and miss a major problem, or agree to obscene contract demands from agents just to get them in? We don't need to have players signed now, pre-season doesn't even start for another fortnight and the season for 6 weeks after that. The kits are a manufacturer delay. We usually release the home kit before the final day and the away kits before the start of pre-season. They will come. 'We don't make decisions on players quick enough' - are you partial to the inner workings of the club, then? Players will know whether they are on the market or definitely sticking around, by now. It's a market. Buyers, sellers, third party agents, everyone trying to get a good deal. These things take time, on the whole. And just in general (friendlies in particular) - what the club announces is not the same as what the club has done or is doing. They can have gentlemen's agreements on friendlies that aren't quite rubber stamped - perhaps it's venues, or training camps, or flights, or anything mundane like that. They are businesses making business decisions, it's not like you click 'Arrange Friendly' on Football Manager and 10 minutes later you've got an email saying accepted or rejected. Judge the summer when it is over. Anything sooner is pointless. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 1 hour ago, lcfcsnow said: I wasn't sure where to post this but it seems a trend lately that we're so slow at getting things done. For example for the last few seasons we hardly have any friendlies scheduled, still not released the kits for next season, transfer dealings both in and out seem delayed, we don't make decisions on players quick enough and have an endless amount of backup players hanging around (poor safe recruitment played a part here but are we missing out on targets due to us being hesitant here too?). But at least we can say our fan base are the fastest to judge 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 Have we discussed Minamino being available for something silly like £17 million from Liverpool? Surely he's a reasonable signing we could make, especially if we shift Perez, Paet and Albrighton being in the twilight of his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 21 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: Have we discussed Minamino being available for something silly like £17 million from Liverpool? Surely he's a reasonable signing we could make, especially if we shift Perez, Paet and Albrighton being in the twilight of his career? another right footed winger, we might as well make Lookman permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_up_north Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 13 minutes ago, LFox99 said: another right footed winger, we might as well make Lookman permanent Ah. Is he another right footed lefty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 Just now, fox_up_north said: Ah. Is he another right footed lefty? Yes, just assume every winger is a right footed lefty. Quality left footed options are so hard to come by these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 He was crap while on loan to Southampton. Which is a prerequisite for us. Done deal! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalletFox Posted 12 June 2022 Share Posted 12 June 2022 5 hours ago, jayfox26 said: As I said earlier, you cannot compare Evans and Mee, Evans is a miles better player so doesn't need to have pace. Mee would be so unsuited to our style of play, it would be frightening to watch. Plus we really shouldn't be looking at 33 year old players Well, actually, you can compare Mee and Evans and when you’re referring to playing the high-line then comparing pace is a logical thing to look at. Mee would be our 3rd best centre back in my view and would be an adequate backup to an increasingly injured Evans. I like my CB’s to be able to defend first and foremost (aka Huth & Morgan), and I think he can knock a ball around as comfortably as he’d need to here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayfox26 Posted 13 June 2022 Share Posted 13 June 2022 15 hours ago, MalletFox said: Well, actually, you can compare Mee and Evans and when you’re referring to playing the high-line then comparing pace is a logical thing to look at. Mee would be our 3rd best centre back in my view and would be an adequate backup to an increasingly injured Evans. I like my CB’s to be able to defend first and foremost (aka Huth & Morgan), and I think he can knock a ball around as comfortably as he’d need to here. We'll agree to disagree. Mee would be a dreadful signing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 13 June 2022 Share Posted 13 June 2022 On 08/06/2022 at 18:20, Shane said: Isaak Toure (Le Havre). Linked with all the big clubs in France. 6ft 9 , left footed CB, 19 years old and in the last year of his contract. Gerrimin and send him out on loan. edit. highlights from last season: Marseille want him for €6m as a replacement for Saliba. Could be the next Fofana, he is massive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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