Clever Fox Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 There's no way we're selling NDiddi unless it's for huge money. He's the first name on the team sheet when fit. Kelechi maybe if the price is right about 50 m for a proven prem scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 £50m for Kelechi? Both arms to the shoulder should we ever get an offer like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 9 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: There's no way we're selling NDiddi unless it's for huge money. He's the first name on the team sheet when fit. Kelechi maybe if the price is right about 50 m for a proven prem scorer. Kel will get us £25-30m probs. Don’t think Ndidi is an invaluable as he once was either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: The thing is, I don't see where we have the money next summer. Champions league money innit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 1 hour ago, Dusty said: Kel will get us £25-30m probs. Don’t think Ndidi is an invaluable as he once was either. Gabriel Jesus is reported to be going to Arsenal for 50 million. Surely with a better goal average Kelechi has to be worth a similar fee. NDiddi is still the best at what he does in the Premiership. If his touch and passing was a little better he'd be snapped up by the big Clubs. I doubt he'd be considered for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 Kel is too erratic to get 50mill. He fluffs good chances but scores out of nothing. While the end result might be the same I think most clubs want a more assured goalscorer. And if he was that, we'd keep him. Which we are doing. So is he that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 25 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Gabriel Jesus is reported to be going to Arsenal for 50 million. Surely with a better goal average Kelechi has to be worth a similar fee. NDiddi is still the best at what he does in the Premiership. If his touch and passing was a little better he'd be snapped up by the big Clubs. I doubt he'd be considered for sale. Unfortunately kel is nowhere near the same value as Jesus. Kel is decent, he’s inconsistent and only had one impressive premier league season. In the right system he’s class, but that limits the pool so considerably. If you look at the teams above us, and top teams abroad none of them have a player like Ndidi, a solely ball winning midfielder. He’s just not in demand. Although we’d value him at £40-50m, no teams would pay that for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Why are Utd and Barca reported to be chasing Kante. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 I like Iheanacho but £50mil I sadly think we'll do well to get half of that. I think I'm not feeling overly optimistic about incoming fees though. Half of the trick with negotiation is having a strong starting point. Nobody is going to be trying to bulldoze us down for any of our players. Let this be a lesson really of why to never spend money on players who won't improve the first team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 33 minutes ago, JimJams said: Kel is too erratic to get 50mill. He fluffs good chances but scores out of nothing. While the end result might be the same I think most clubs want a more assured goalscorer. And if he was that, we'd keep him. Which we are doing. So is he that? That's fair comment on Kelechi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 Just now, Clever Fox said: I think we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. Why are Utd and Barca reported to be chasing Kante. Last year of his contract so obviously Barca will be interested in yet another cheap signing. United on the other hand think he's going to solve their DM problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 31 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: I like Iheanacho but £50mil I sadly think we'll do well to get half of that. I think I'm not feeling overly optimistic about incoming fees though. Half of the trick with negotiation is having a strong starting point. Nobody is going to be trying to bulldoze us down for any of our players. Let this be a lesson really of why to never spend money on players who won't improve the first team. Absolutely spot on We’re going to suffer still from last summer’s awful recruitment strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 39 minutes ago, Dusty said: Unfortunately kel is nowhere near the same value as Jesus. Kel is decent, he’s inconsistent and only had one impressive premier league season. In the right system he’s class, but that limits the pool so considerably. If you look at the teams above us, and top teams abroad none of them have a player like Ndidi, a solely ball winning midfielder. He’s just not in demand. Although we’d value him at £40-50m, no teams would pay that for him. Villa might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 3 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Villa might The trouble with Wilf is that there is no-one quite like him in this league, and the benefit of Wilf is that there is no-one quite like him in the league. I love Wilf, and I do not want him to go, but he is a bit out of vogue in current tactical thinking I reckon, as he is too ‘uncultured’ with the ball at feet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted 15 June 2022 Share Posted 15 June 2022 13 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: Villa might Villa have Kamara now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 5 hours ago, Col city fan said: Absolutely spot on We’re going to suffer still from last summer’s awful recruitment strategy I don't think it's just last summer. The Praet situation has become another Silva/Slimani. Everyone points to Bertrand and Vestergaard (rightly) but I think the debacle of signing Praet for good money, putting him on good money to convince him to come, not really making him anything other than bit-part, loaning him out while we still pay his wages - to then downgrade and sign Soumare. That's the kind of inefficiency that will catch up with a club of our size and why I think it's imperative we recruit cleverly. I'd sooner we had a summer where we signed only one player than a repeat of a year ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: I don't think it's just last summer. The Praet situation has become another Silva/Slimani. Everyone points to Bertrand and Vestergaard (rightly) but I think the debacle of signing Praet for good money, putting him on good money to convince him to come, not really making him anything other than bit-part, loaning him out while we still pay his wages - to then downgrade and sign Soumare. That's the kind of inefficiency that will catch up with a club of our size and why I think it's imperative we recruit cleverly. I'd sooner we had a summer where we signed only one player than a repeat of a year ago. It’s not an exact science though. Both Praet and Soumare could have turned out to be World beaters like our Kante’s and Mahrez’s but turn out both to have their respective limitations. It’s always a risk signing non proven Prem players from abroad and in the main that’s our model. If it were easy everybody would be doing it and smashing it 100% of the time. Always a gamble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 3 hours ago, Nick said: It’s not an exact science though. Both Praet and Soumare could have turned out to be World beaters like our Kante’s and Mahrez’s but turn out both to have their respective limitations. It’s always a risk signing non proven Prem players from abroad and in the main that’s our model. If it were easy everybody would be doing it and smashing it 100% of the time. Always a gamble. In recent windows only Justin has well outperformed his fee. . Fofana was a record fee for a teenage defender. We appear to have lost the knack. I expect the club to be much more careful in the future and become a lot more risk averse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 5 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: I don't think it's just last summer. The Praet situation has become another Silva/Slimani. Everyone points to Bertrand and Vestergaard (rightly) but I think the debacle of signing Praet for good money, putting him on good money to convince him to come, not really making him anything other than bit-part, loaning him out while we still pay his wages - to then downgrade and sign Soumare. That's the kind of inefficiency that will catch up with a club of our size and why I think it's imperative we recruit cleverly. I'd sooner we had a summer where we signed only one player than a repeat of a year ago. I don`t think that can actually happen. We have so little wriggle room in the wage budget, people who either on decent wages, show no signs on signing new contracts (to preserve their value) or are actively reducing their value through either continued poor performances/declining ability, will need to be moved on. Yes I would rather we sign young players with potential on low fees, but the options seem limited to take such risks. Therefore we sign young guys like Fofana who high very high potential (Assume this is what CDK would be expected to be) who join on 5 figures and only earn larger wages once they are confirmed as being the real deal, like Wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 Lucas Moura said to be available for £17m. I'd love to get him. Think he'd solve our right side attack issue. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadsEmil Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 18 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Lucas Moura said to be available for £17m. I'd love to get him. Think he'd solve our right side attack issue. Hes a Brazilian Ademola Lookman, why not just go for the original in that case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 Just now, MadsEmil said: Hes a Brazilian Ademola Lookman, why not just go for the original in that case because Lookman is shite on the RHS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes96 Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 34 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said: Lucas Moura said to be available for £17m. I'd love to get him. Think he'd solve our right side attack issue. We’ve never signed a Brazilian Has that one been done yet? 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 Think this time next week we’ll get some progress, probably mainly departures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxes96 Posted 16 June 2022 Share Posted 16 June 2022 43 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: Think this time next week we’ll get some progress, probably mainly departures Any ideas on who? Only seems to have been noise about Hamza so far? Söyüncü? Perez? Kelechi? or is this just based on Internationals being over so movement more likely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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