Wesley Fofana - He is no more - finished - forgotten.

[Beechey]

1 minute ago, foxinsocks said:

Whats that as a % of total player wages?

Very roughly, about 20% of all wages.

Edited 9 August 2022 by Beechey

[FoxesWalk]

18 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

That sounds like a recipe for allowing your best players to go on the cheap while significantly weakening yourself in the process.

These rules are designed to damage clubs like ours, so we shouldn’t be surprised to be coming out of this noticeably weaker.

[Sambiasso]

 

[Beechey]

Just now, Sambiasso said:

 

Just keep turning them down until they meet our valuation, they're clearly not scared of increasing the figure.

[Ric Flair]

I'd not be surprised to see an interview appear in the French press soon, either with Fofana himself or his family saying he wants to go and his mind is made up.

[urban.spaceman]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I'd not be surprised to see an interview appear in the French press soon, either with Fofana himself or his family saying he wants to go and his mind is made up.

I’m looking forward to the Viktor Navorski stage of this saga. Riyad has been sending tips. 

[Mike Oxlong]

Price should go up with every day closer to the end of the window 

[FoxinNotts]

Ok, here's my ideal scenario. I want the club to read this carefully, so if someone could forward this on please. Thanks in advance.

 

Sort out a pre-contract agreement with PSG. Sell him for £80m to PSG, but loan him back to us for the season, and also send Sarabia to us on loan for the season.

 

Job done. Get it sorted Rudders.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

11 minutes ago, Sambiasso said:

 

Absolute ****ing nonsense. In a massive negotiation, you don't just make an offer. You'll test what would make the deal work not just offer cash. Fabrizio is a plank.

[foxes_rule1978]

85m might get us talking, I hope we don’t sell though. We can’t replace him! If it is 85m it better be pretty much all upfront. Letting go of Kasper, Fofana and Tielemans will be hard to deal with 

Edited 9 August 2022 by foxes_rule1978

[Tielemans63]

What is Little Wes on? £80k a week? If he goes then there is the transfer fee but in terms of wages, you'd hope we'd bring in another player capable of playing in the PL so that's surely at least £50k pw - thus from an FFP* point of view we're only saving £30k a week and will have a significantly weaker squad. Is that really worth it? Surely we're not going to rely on an aging Evans, an out-of-favour Cags and Big Dan? That actually could see us fighting to stay up if Evans cops a bad injury.

 

Having to sacrifice (not literally) the best young defender on the planet because we can't shift the likes of Bertrand, Vesty or Hamza is absolutely galling but a problem entirely of the club's making. £200k a week were spunking on those 3 wasters.

 

*Words can't express how much I hate the concept of FFP, to use the word 'fair' in there is an insult. Genuinely believe it's a nail in the coffin for the ambitions of a club like ours and it's wrong. The game is so heavily in favour of the 'big clubs now', let them **** off and start their super league imho.

Edited 9 August 2022 by Tielemans63

[FOXSE]

6 minutes ago, FoxinNotts said:

Ok, here's my ideal scenario. I want the club to read this carefully, so if someone could forward this on please. Thanks in advance.

 

Sort out a pre-contract agreement with PSG. Sell him for £80m to PSG, but loan him back to us for the season, and also send Sarabia to us on loan for the season.

 

Job done. Get it sorted Rudders.

Hey, psg, have fofana at this years prices, next year! Great! 😄 

[StanSP]

16 minutes ago, Sambiasso said:

 

Absolutely nothing new there. 

 

Rehashing it for retweets and likes. 

[adejo92]

Is there anything we know 147 pages deep that we didn't know on page 1?

 

Chelsea want Fofana, Fofana wants Chelsea.

 

Bam.

[weller54]

2 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

Is there anything we know 147 pages deep that we didn't know on page 1?

 

Chelsea want Fofana, Fofana wants Chelsea.

 

Bam.

Source?

[lgfualol]

24 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Barnes on the bench then. CHO would not come without getting starts wide left. Why should Chelsea cover any of his pay.

I thought he was at his best on the right. They'll pay because they're minted

[Ric Flair]

I'd be shocked if we wouldn't sell him at £85m. We're at a complete standstill in incomings and outgoings and got a massive imbalance in certain areas of our squad and I cannot believe the board and Top think that's not an issue that must be corrected this summer, as opposed to next. Likewise if its more they no longer trust Brendan but don't have the money to pay him off then again you'd want the financial flexibility to be able to do so in the short to medium term.

 

In all my years as a fan, this summer and our conflicting actions are stranger than anything I've witnessed. Can somebody please make sense of it? Top claimed he was confident we'd get some signings in this month still, but based on what scenario? He said that at a point where he must have been informed that we are getting either lowball bids for players we want rid of and aren't prepared to accept them for some reason or we aren't getting any bids for the players we expected such as Tielemans and Soyuncu, so surely you'd be even more conservative about what's to happen this window than previously planned at the end of last season? Our heads are up our arseholes.

[adejo92]

5 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Source?

 

I mean, the Chelsea wanting Fofana bit is given away by their repetitive bids.

 

The Fofana wanting Chelsea part was an educated guess given they will probably double his wages, give him a chance of trophies, allow him to play alongside world class players, speed up his spot in the French National side, allow him a move to London (always desirable with foreign players)...

 

The dude on twitter is pretty reliable too as he works with a lot of scouts & agents and has access to a lot of inside Information. 

Edited 9 August 2022 by adejo92

[ClaphamFox]

Just now, adejo92 said:

 

I mean, the Chelsea wanting Fofana bit is given away by their repetitive bids.

 

The Fofana wanting Chelsea part was an educated guess given they will probably double his wages, give him a chance of trophies, allow him to play alongside world class players, speed up his spot in the French National side, allow him a move to London (always desirable with foreign players)...

I think he was joking, mate.

[CosbehFox]

12 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Absolute ****ing nonsense. In a massive negotiation, you don't just make an offer. You'll test what would make the deal work not just offer cash. Fabrizio is a plank.

Judging from the summer, I'm not particularly sure Chelsea get it either. Boelhy thinks he's still on some draft/trade system 

Edited 9 August 2022 by Cardiff_Fox

[adejo92]

1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said:

I think he was joking, mate.

Ah, yeah, probably was to be fair.

 

It's just such an aggressive thread this one, it instantly got me angry. Just knocked next doors cat out.

[ARM1968]

Just now, adejo92 said:

Ah, yeah, probably was to be fair.

 

It's just such an aggressive thread this one, it instantly got me angry. Just knocked next doors cat out.

Leave the cats alone mate. There is a reason ancient Egyptians venerated them. 

[adejo92]

2 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

Leave the cats alone mate. There is a reason ancient Egyptians venerated them. 

#zouma

[Finnegan]

Amuses me that this is an absolute mirror of his move here. We did exactly this to St Etienne, repeatedly bid about a thousand times for a million or so more each time whilst his agent told every media outlet going and he acted the fool on social media

[ClaphamFox]

2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I'd be shocked if we wouldn't sell him at £85m. We're at a complete standstill in incomings and outgoings and got a massive imbalance in certain areas of our squad and I cannot believe the board and Top think that's not an issue that must be corrected this summer, as opposed to next. Likewise if its more they no longer trust Brendan but don't have the money to pay him off then again you'd want the financial flexibility to be able to do so in the short to medium term.

 

In all my years as a fan, this summer and our conflicting actions are stranger than anything I've witnessed. Can somebody please make sense of it? Top claimed he was confident we'd get some signings in this month still, but based on what scenario? He said that at a point where he must have been informed that we are getting either lowball bids for players we want rid of and aren't prepared to accept them for some reason or we aren't getting any bids for the players we expected such as Tielemans and Soyuncu, so surely you'd be even more conservative about what's to happen this window than previously planned at the end of last season? Our heads are up our arseholes.

It seems we were completely taken aback by UEFA's announcement of its new FFP rules in April. That has left us in a position where we need to sharply bring down our wages-to-turnover revenue over the next few years. The club hoped to do that by getting rid of our higher-earning fringe players rather than any of our star players, but this is proving difficult because nobody else will pay them the bloated wages they're on with us, and the players themselves are reluctant to take pay cuts.

 

Schmeichel's departure will have eased the pressure on the wage bill side, especially if we decide to stick with Ward/Iversen rather than recruit a new keeper. If the likes of Tielemens and Soumare go, that will also substantially ease the wage bill issue, but of course we'll need at least one new midfielder to replace them. Selling Fofana for £85m+ will boost revenue, which will also help with FFP. But we really, really need to get rid of the higher-earning fringe players if we want to free up money to attract new talent - and that remains a major challenge...