mod hero Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 Let’s just hop he starts against Sevilla 💙🦊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basildon Fox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 Just now, Babylon said: Look at the market, look at what players are fetching, use your noggin. There is also a difference between what we'd accept and what another team would bid. IF, and it's a big IF, the 20% sell on is right, then we'd probably want more than another team is likely to pay at this stage. Out of your Galactico type player, it's top strikers fetching £100m, not defenders. Kounde and De Light are doing in the £50-£60m region currently. So you are basically saying we would not sell for anything less than say £100m but Chelsea won't pay the amount we would be asking.... So exactly like I said then. Well worth the contradictory replies from you, just for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 15 minutes ago, Babylon said: Look at the market, look at what players are fetching, use your noggin. There is also a difference between what we'd accept and what another team would bid. IF, and it's a big IF, the 20% sell on is right, then we'd probably want more than another team is likely to pay at this stage. Out of your Galactico type player, it's top strikers fetching £100m, not defenders. Kounde and De Light are doing in the £50-£60m region currently. Irrespective of what the market is doing, we don't want to sell yet.. so if they want him they will have to pay on our terms and if the club slaps a £100m price tag on him then it's on Chelsea to pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 14 minutes ago, st albans fox said: someone should take a chelsea shirt down to be signed and see what happens ............ just a joke - calm down According to twitter he isn’t at the signing event. panic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 5 minutes ago, SafewayFox said: To be fair, I do agree BUT your not quoting PL fees. No way Maguire goes for 80m (pre or post COVID) to another country for as much. Then you throw in Lukaku as an example of this - Chelsea pay 100m and 12 months later let him go back to Inter for a 10m loan fee. Comparing transfer fees is correct but value in the PL compared to outside is apples and oranges. Ok. Man U paid £75m for Sancho, Chelsea £70+ for Haevertz, £100m would make him the 5th most expensive premier league player ever. Using Maguire as a bench mark is totally pointless, it was exceptional and they lost their minds, we got about £50m for Chilwell not long after. If Chelsea similarly lose their marbles, then alright some divvy might panic and chuck money at it. But anyone with an ounce of common sense isn't paying that... yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 We'll price him at 100mill+. Not sure why people are arguing it. Upemecano was quoted as being more than that when he broke through, Koulibaly was quoted at over that for years. We'll set a ridiculous asking price, if we're even drawn on it at all. Incidentally with talkbof Kepa, his transfer to Chelsea is illustrative of what may happen. Courtois left with little time to find a replacement so they had to pay the stupid fee or suck a lemon. Could happen with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 16 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: So you are basically saying we would not sell for anything less than say £100m but Chelsea won't pay the amount we would be asking.... So exactly like I said then. Well worth the contradictory replies from you, just for the sake of it. YOU replied to me, and you didn't say that to me in those replies. So pipe down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 10 minutes ago, Rusko187 said: Irrespective of what the market is doing, we don't want to sell yet.. so if they want him they will have to pay on our terms and if the club slaps a £100m price tag on him then it's on Chelsea to pay it. Or he throws he toys out and we end up having to let him go for less. See Chilwell, demanding £80m and getting £50m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusko187 Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 1 minute ago, Babylon said: Or he throws he toys out and we end up having to let him go for less. See Chilwell, demanding £80m and getting £50m. If he does, throw him in the reserves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafewayFox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 12 minutes ago, Babylon said: Ok. Man U paid £75m for Sancho, Chelsea £70+ for Haevertz, £100m would make him the 5th most expensive premier league player ever. Using Maguire as a bench mark is totally pointless, it was exceptional and they lost their minds, we got about £50m for Chilwell not long after. If Chelsea similarly lose their marbles, then alright some divvy might panic and chuck money at it. But anyone with an ounce of common sense isn't paying that... yet. A great reply to be fair mate 👍🏻 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basildon Fox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 Just now, Babylon said: YOU replied to me, and you didn't say that to me in those replies. So pipe down. I'll pipe down when you pipe down. I replied to you as you irked me with your yet again condescending attitude to anyone who disagrees with you. Again I will ask you, how much do you think he is worth? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 35 minutes ago, Babylon said: Look at the market, look at what players are fetching, use your noggin. There is also a difference between what we'd accept and what another team would bid. IF, and it's a big IF, the 20% sell on is right, then we'd probably want more than another team is likely to pay at this stage. Out of your Galactico type player, it's top strikers fetching £100m, not defenders. Kounde and De Light are doing in the £50-£60m region currently. Meaning what ? we have him on a 5 year contract he is 21 years old and probably the best centre half talent in Europe if not the world - absolutely no chance he goes for less than £90m especially with a sell on clause and us not needing to sell him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: So tell us all with your far more infinite wisdom than literally everyone else on the forum exactly what we should be expecting to get for him then? Take your argumentative specs off for a minute and tell me what is incorrect in the statement that he will be one of if not the best defender in the world in a couple of years. Who, in his age group is a better in world football right now? I honestly don't watch enough World football to even comment. Bayern have just paid less than £75m for De Ligt who is twice the player. Transfers fees only highlight what the player is worth to the club. Fofona is worth £80m to us (or whatever price) but he's not actually worth that as a defender. Edited 29 July 2022 by Fox92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 yawn no concrete news then on any fvcking body, what's so ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 Just now, Old Fox said: Meaning what ? we have him on a 5 year contract he is 21 years old and probably the best centre half talent in Europe if not the world - absolutely no chance he goes for less than £90m especially with a sell on clause and us not needing to sell him ! of course the players thoughts need to be taken account of i would think he feels that a move to Chelsea cements his place in Qatar (he has a chance if he stays here but its probably dependant on injuries) we know he agitated to leave st ettienne but they got their price in the end. £90m is a lot but I guess if you don’t ask ……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 1 minute ago, pmcla26 said: Rest of the world of football will see Fofana as a £60m player, the club will probably see him as a £80m+ player. It will be hard for anyone to do a deal when the perceived valuation from both sides doesn't match. I can't see him leaving this summer, but it does probably spell the beginning of the end of his time here. Speaking to London club fans, they don’t see him at £50m. They are amazed we paid £30m for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 23 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: According to twitter he isn’t at the signing event. panic He was late …….. doing an interview for ‘the shed end’ podcast apparently ………whatever that is 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinckleyFox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Speaking to London club fans, they don’t see him at £50m. They are amazed we paid £30m for him. As in they wouldn't value him at 30mill? That is a shocking take on their behalf, he is very composed and assured for his age. As time goes on he will only mature and CBs tend to hit their prime around 28-32 years old, if he continues to progress at a good rate, he will be considered one of the best defenders around. Paying 80 mill for him now you aren't just paying for the player he currently is, you are paying a premium for the player he is going to be in 5 years time as well, where chelsea could then potentially sell to a real madrid or barcelona and still turn a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 **** you all who make this post go HOT for no reason. fickle minded numpties the lot of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 5 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Speaking to London club fans, they don’t see him at £50m. They are amazed we paid £30m for him. Clearly haven't watched him play then. Most pundits (who tend to have no respect for clubs like us and the talent of our players) massively big him up. Consensus is that he's a special talent. Definitely not worth to other clubs, what he is to us but that's most transfers for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinckleyFox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 Just now, Simoken said: **** you all who make this post go HOT for no reason. fickle minded numpties the lot of you. Says he who contributes to the thread going hot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 6 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: it does probably spell the beginning of the end of his time here. <aside> That expression is one of those that I sometimes ponder... like something lost always being 'the last place you look' When does the end begin? The second something starts? I suppose Fofana's time with us started to end the moment he signed. </aside> (sorry, I thought some light relief was needed) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 9 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Speaking to London club fans, they don’t see him at £50m. They are amazed we paid £30m for him. Every Chelsea fan I know would be over the moon with Fofana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 (edited) Just now, The_77 said: Every Chelsea fan I know would be over the moon with Fofana. And yes, I know too many Chelsea fans, before anyone mentions it. I have to do something about that. Edited 29 July 2022 by The_77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basildon Fox Posted 29 July 2022 Share Posted 29 July 2022 5 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Speaking to London club fans, they don’t see him at £50m. They are amazed we paid £30m for him. Really? Plenty I know rate Fofana massively and would love to have him at their club. The Chelsea fan I work with thinks he should be their priority over anyone else to get in now the other chap has gone to Barcelona. He seems happy to go to £80m for him. I think we would price him higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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