Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 1 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 1 August 2022 I have well and truly loathed Chelsea since the FA Cup Quarter final 1997. Their constant acquisitions of our players and unsettling our progress has only added to that. Stop. ****ing. Selling. To. Chelsea. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxinNotts Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 5 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said: Would this be legal as his previous club have a 30 percent sell on? I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenParvaFox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 33 minutes ago, st albans fox said: We were in for a CB with him staying. If he leaves then we should be getting two in - or we’ve accepted cags is seeing out his final year and won’t leave. True. As I said, I don't know what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav_LCFC14 Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 9 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said: Would this be legal as his previous club have a 30 percent sell on? I vaguely remember when players are included in the transfer package, it goes to a tribunal to determine the compensation. Though I might have made this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakemoore Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 We already have too many players for a PL squad so I see no benefit in a swap deal even though that means we lose Fofanna and free up a space. He’s now 21 so he takes a spot where he didn’t last season. This £80m package won’t be cash up front that’s for sure but as soon as we sell him we have to give St Ettiene (however that’s spelt) a load of money so let’s say we get £60m up front, then lose 15% that leave £51m and we need two CBs and a RW for that which isn’t going to happen in todays market. I see No benefit in selling him this year. Let’s keep him, build the side around him push on this year and hopefully get top 6 (unlikely I know) which may convince him to stay and if it doesn’t then we’ll get at least the same next year but hopefully it starts a bidding war. Cash in on Tilemans and some of the dead wood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey123 Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 If Wes decides to push for the move (praying he dosen’t) any deal this summer would surely have to include Colwill - either on loan with option to buy, or permanent. Just seems to logical to replace him in the squad and be able to use the funds where we need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 We should demand a lot of cash plus Gallagher. About time we got something back off them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scinnell Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Will accept 100 million plus next summer. A large amount of players contract expire on high wages in 12 months. Focus on building the recruitment team and invest the money wisely next summer. Return back to old recruitment models of investing on young players with high potential and make profits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMELcfc Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 There is noise, because Fofana is probably open to it. Clubs generally talk to agents before making a bid nowadays. Like someone else said, Fofana probably won't push it, but would be interested, why wouldn't he? In general, I feel as though we are having one of those years of reality checks, a 'stop and pause moment' as things last season didn't go to plan. Whether or not you see conference semi as a success, I think it is fair to say, the club eyed a much better run in the Europa League than last time... yet it was worse! We were poor for large parts of last season, although somehow we saved it a little towards the end, finishing a respectable 8th. Then there was the recruitment... how much money did we spend, and how many of those players actually contributed? Patson Daka had his moments, and we are all hoping there is more to come. However, Soumare was poor then injured, then just disappeared... Bertrand, injured, then Covid, then another injury, played 2 or 3 games and was poor in all of them, other than perhaps the community shield. Vestergaard - no one who had watched this guy play football for Southampton, thought it was a good idea, yet Fofana's injury in my mind made us panic. He is on big wages and again, not contributing. Rodgers - Signed a new deal over a year ago and now on a huge wage. On one side of the argument, good business, FA Cup, which ok, doesn't bring in the highest of competition money, but in terms of prestige domestically and worldwide, it was big for us (and the Fans of course). Premier league top 5 two years in a row, then 8th last season. Again, in isolation, decent. But on the other side of the argument (and who knows, maybe the Board / Top's stance) disappointed with those two seasons, when it looked like we would be getting champions league football. Then again, they will know that in general, we cannot compete with those sides financially... Then throw Newcastle into the mix, who may not be there yet, but have the riches to be another club looking to finish top half, not just avoid relegation battles. I really think, and this is just purely observational, we are trying to work out again, what our model is and how we are going to find a way of competing in the Premier League. Or we have decided on the model, one that worked quite well previously in signing slightly more 'unknown' names at a lower price to sell high. And my long drawn out point is... Fofana fits that, whether it is this season or not. I hope we are taking time to have a rethink, and that we get back to the 'un-earthed' gem model (which doesn't always work, but feels there is a lot less risk involved)... not the Bertrand & Vestergaard model (whatever that was). Again, only observational, but this is why it is slow progress this year looking from outside in, but something will hopefully be happening (maybe why the guy from Southampton has been brought in?) on the inside. We have a lot of players running into their last year of contract, I would hope that some of those will not be renewed, some of the 'deadwood' is moved on this window and we get back to smaller squad, lower wage bill, and start again... the big 'reset' … fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrummieFOX Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 9 minutes ago, Jakemoore said: We already have too many players for a PL squad so I see no benefit in a swap deal even though that means we lose Fofanna and free up a space. He’s now 21 so he takes a spot where he didn’t last season. This £80m package won’t be cash up front that’s for sure but as soon as we sell him we have to give St Ettiene (however that’s spelt) a load of money so let’s say we get £60m up front, then lose 15% that leave £51m and we need two CBs and a RW for that which isn’t going to happen in todays market. I see No benefit in selling him this year. Let’s keep him, build the side around him push on this year and hopefully get top 6 (unlikely I know) which may convince him to stay and if it doesn’t then we’ll get at least the same next year but hopefully it starts a bidding war. Cash in on Tilemans and some of the dead wood. That's what we've been trying to do all summer. Soumare and Kasper seem the only ones close to anything so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadsEmil Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Just now, pmcla26 said: Don't get why some want to include Gallagher when he have 48 central midfielders already. Especially when Wright is breaking through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reynard Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 A lot depends on whether the player wants to force a move or whether his agent does as he'd get a massive pay out with any deal too. I think there is a reasonable chance this will happen which will be a big statement frankly on where we are right now in terms of finance and squad numbers etc. I would tell Chelsea that they have to pay 100 million up front, absolutely no installments, and they have to also pay any fee owing on top of that to his previous club. If they are prepared to deal under those circumstances then I'd probably reluctantly go ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 I can't believe so many people are wasting their time discussing this made up shite. He's not going unless Chelsea pay a totally ridiculous sum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 It'd have to be more than Maguire went for...they won't pay that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 I'll be fuming if this happens. He is the key player for us this season. I have no faith we will invest the money wisely and starting the season with big dan and evans is a depressing thought. Let him go next season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 1 hour ago, Cincinnati Fox said: A package, means not 80 million upfront and 80 million ain’t enough . What’s the difference between Chelsea’s “package” and Newcastle’s “structured offer” ? Euphemisms for low ball bull**** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 20 minutes ago, scinnell said: Will accept 100 million plus next summer. A large amount of players contract expire on high wages in 12 months. Focus on building the recruitment team and invest the money wisely next summer. Return back to old recruitment models of investing on young players with high potential and make profits. This would also give us time to find and install a Recruitment Team that had actually had a clue about - Recruitment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 7 minutes ago, Micky said: I can't believe so many people are wasting their time discussing this made up shite. He's not going unless Chelsea pay a totally ridiculous sum. Probably because Chelsea will pay a ridiculous sum, they're ran by absolute clowns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Probably because Chelsea will pay a ridiculous sum, they're ran by absolute clowns. They won't pay £100 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Probably because Chelsea will pay a ridiculous sum, they're ran by absolute clowns. Can’t believe he got rid of MG before he’d been through a window. perhaps they had discussions on how stuff is done and he decided he wasn’t going to work by the ‘standard rules’ Edited 1 August 2022 by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 6 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Can’t believe he got rid of MG before he’d been through a window. perhaps they had discussions on how stuff is done and he decided he wasn’t going to work by the ‘standard rules’ Has Marina had a sex-change?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 Just now, mozartfox said: Has Marina had a sex-change?? He is boehly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Vardy Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 31 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Don't get why some want to include Gallagher when he have 48 central midfielders already. Tielemans will go at somepoint, be it this month or next year......Gallagher and Dewsbury Hall would be a long term partnership......a quality one too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 (edited) Why would Gallagher necessarily want to come here? the kid thinks he’s a big six player (and he could be). chelsea would value him at £50m min he would command a similar salary to wes. can’t see the point from a financial perspective Edited 1 August 2022 by st albans fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 1 August 2022 Share Posted 1 August 2022 5 minutes ago, Reg Vardy said: Tielemans will go at somepoint, be it this month or next year......Gallagher and Dewsbury Hall would be a long term partnership......a quality one too..... We’d have the fittest midfield in world football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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