Strokes Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 8 hours ago, jonny_wright said: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2020/official-leicester-sign-wesley-fofana-from-st-etienne-for-e40m-including-bonuses/ It’s 20% so at 80m we give st etienne 16m - it gets worse Sell on clauses are usually on profit, so £80m we pay them £9m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 9 minutes ago, taupe said: No club has an agenda to knobble another club (other than on the pitch)... though I do wonder about Arsenal's supposed interest in Youri... and Newcastle buying Wood could be seen as a 'two birds with one stone' masterstroke. In general, clubs just try to do the best for themselves. You write as if you view clubs as sentient entities. A club is a collection of individuals with, ostensibly, a common aim - in football that may be, in the majority of cases, aspiring to maintain or better their position in the hierarchy of leagues. I agree that clubs don't wittingly operate to undermine other clubs, although individuals might have antipathies which might be gratified by the failure of someone owning or managing another club. However, comparatively wealthy clubs do use that wealth to attract players, and this has the indirect effect of weakening the source club's playing strength... mostly. To state that effect isn't foreseen and desired ignores the 'law of the jungle' mentality. It's apparent when Rodgers states that he won't "go to war with the club" that tensions now exist over funding transfers-in. It's apparent that decision making about transfers-in last summer led to the most amazing balls-up of a recruitment campaign. It's apparent that City's salary structure has favoured players whose performance hasn't reflect their effectiveness on the field. It may be that the funding of non-team initiatives might have been over-prioritised. And maybe players with ambitions have decided that LCFC are less than able to fulfil those ambitions within the time frame they've envisaged for themselves and dropped hints about their availability. That's when the lions will start watching the zebra to see if it's strong enough to resist their attacks. A club with leadership that has the same common aims and has adequate funds can resist these 'attacks', but I don't see that at present with City. Losing Fofana for his real value might solve some financial issues temporarily but it will weaken the team and dilute City's position as a CL aspirant. Depending on the dearth of money, more might follow and then we might be susceptible to relegation. That would be a tragedy after so much has been input into making it the best it's ever been. What happened last summer stinks of the very opposite of a considered, stable decision making unit at the heart of the club. Whatyever Rodgers was thinking about when he announced what he did, it demonstrated there isn't a unity of purpose at City. That's left the other clubs rubbing their hands with glee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adejo92 Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 There's no way Rodgers will want him to leave, that's guaranteed. Unfortunately with the money we are talking about, I'm not sure he will get a say. It's still a business for the owners and the money might be too much for them to turn their noses up at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 8 minutes ago, adejo92 said: There's no way Rodgers will want him to leave, that's guaranteed. Unfortunately with the money we are talking about, I'm not sure he will get a say. It's still a business for the owners and the money might be too much for them to turn their noses up at. If he goes we need to have two players ready to join almost immediately , that would make sense. I'd we sell then start chucking money at people like Bednarek and Bailly then we're ****ed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 (edited) If chelsea wanted to buy him then it should all have been kept in house it didn’t get out from our end so wherever we shop for a CB now (and remember we were looking for one already), we will pay a premium on the back of the expected fofana money. so if chelsea want him, not only do they have to pay an exorbitant fee but they have to stick £20m on top to cover us being ripped off too on a CB purchase. £90m for wes is reasonable so that’s £110m in total. If wes’ agent was responsible for the leak then he will understand that he’s missed a payday because of it. Clubs and agents must understand that chat has consequences…. its no good is getting what we perceive to be value for a player and then having to give that away - remember we didn’t replace Harry because of the fees quoted to us. Edited 4 August 2022 by st albans fox 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 We may have accepted he is off already and be deep in talks on replacements. It was noisy a couple of days ago and little since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtmcfly Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, st albans fox said: If chelsea wanted to buy him then it should all have been kept in house it didn’t get out from our end so wherever we shop for a CB now (and remember we were looking for one already), we will pay a premium on the back of the expected fofana money. so if chelsea want him, not only do they have to pay an exorbitant fee but they have to stick £20m on top to cover us being ripped off too on a CB purchase. £90m for wes is reasonable so that’s £110m in total. If wes’ agent was responsible for the leak then he will understand that he’s missed a payday because of it. Clubs and agents must understand that chat has consequences…. its no good is getting what we perceive to be value for a player and then having to give that away - remember we didn’t replace Harry because of the fees quoted to us. [insert comment rendered completely irrelevant by news in another thread] Edited 4 August 2022 by turtmcfly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanya Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Or he isnt going anywhere. Thank god he signed that contract though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 4 minutes ago, Tanya said: Or he isnt going anywhere. Thank god he signed that contract though. He would still have had 3 years on the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Tanya said: Or he isnt going anywhere. Thank god he signed that contract though. Do you want a player at the club who is intent on leaving and has shown no loyalty to immediately want to jump ship at the first opportunity ? Get the best fee and move on as with Mahrez otherwise it has a destabilizing effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 11 hours ago, hackneyfox said: ??? You know what we are paying him after he signed a 5 year extension? If we are paying a 21 years old with limited game time more than £100, 000 a week then no wonder a club with our resources is up the creek , and deservedly so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad the Fox Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, jerry said: Do you want a player at the club who is intent on leaving and has shown no loyalty to immediately want to jump ship at the first opportunity ? Get the best fee and move on as with Mahrez otherwise it has a destabilizing effect. But he’s been quoted as saying he loves it here and working with Rodgers. The manager also stated that Wes loves Top in his interview on Monday night, hopefully he’ll have too much respect to kick up a fuss. He’s young and has his whole career in front of him, knuckle down and the big moves will come. Edited 4 August 2022 by Vlad the Fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ClaphamFox Posted 4 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 4 August 2022 2 minutes ago, jerry said: Do you want a player at the club who is intent on leaving and has shown no loyalty to immediately want to jump ship at the first opportunity ? Get the best fee and move on as with Mahrez otherwise it has a destabilizing effect. You're making massive assumptions about how Fofana would react in that situation. Lots of players have potential moves blocked by their clubs and continue to put in a shift because they're professionals or because they're trying to get into their international team or because they respect their teammates or a host of other reasons. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 1 minute ago, ClaphamFox said: You're making massive assumptions about how Fofana would react in that situation. Lots of players have potential moves blocked by their clubs and continue to put in a shift because they're professionals or because they're trying to get into their international team or because they respect their teammates or a host of other reasons. Would be more concerned to lose Maddison to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Just now, jerry said: Would be more concerned to lose Maddison to be honest. Maddison is not going anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Fofana will go next summer for more than £80m IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 1 minute ago, jerry said: Do you want a player at the club who is intent on leaving and has shown no loyalty to immediately want to jump ship at the first opportunity ? Get the best fee and move on as with Mahrez otherwise it has a destabilizing effect. After Mahrez missed out on his January move he started performing again. Sure he spat his dummy out and missed a couple games but he still managed 7 goal contributions in 12 games after that. It’s just what world class players do. They want to win every game and be competitive. Fofana might have one eye on the exit door next summer, but he will still be incredible for us in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 1 minute ago, FoxesWalk said: Fofana will go next summer for more than £80m IMO £120m I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 (edited) This surprisingly doesn’t worry me, they’re going to have to go quite a bit higher to entice us to sell this early IMO, he can easily become a £100m defender within the next year or two of his contract. Edited 4 August 2022 by FoxesWalk 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 58 minutes ago, st albans fox said: If chelsea wanted to buy him then it should all have been kept in house Amen to that, I couldn't agree more. But then what would we all have to talk about? (Irony btw) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Miles off it but will It will unsettle player. God this is depressing. 60 mill only means that it will drag on for weeks yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nalis Posted 4 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 4 August 2022 1 minute ago, FoxesWalk said: £60m, is this 2009?? 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 2 minutes ago, FoxesWalk said: Fabrizio is a real s**t stirrer, isn't he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 What makes me laugh is the “players wants the move” seriously how the **** does he know? Is he in his WhatsApp group? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Just now, Pliskin said: What makes me laugh is the “players wants the move” seriously how the **** does he know? Is he in his WhatsApp group? He’s getting sloppier, starting to get caught out. Cucurella being a prime example… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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