Phenom Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 18 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Chelsea are in danger of becoming the new Man U. New American owner, outing all the football knowledge, scatter gun approach to recruitment. Seems to fit... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, buzzer_b said: I just hope that Fofana keeps his head down and doesn’t start getting the arse when we reject offers we deem unacceptable. Hope he doesn’t slap a transfer request in. I have no worries with that , Wes loves competition , as soon as he gets on the pitch he is entirely focused on getting the job done as well as he can. Edited 4 August 2022 by An Sionnach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordersfox Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 1 hour ago, JimJams said: "our experience" JimJams translate... Yeah can you translate the sodding rest through... Never mind, I doubt it's worth the hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Renard Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Chelsea have been bought with someone else's money and their trying to splash the cash on players like Fofana, don't their fans realise that it will have to be paid back at some point, it is not like they have their sugar daddy anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 3 hours ago, Ric Flair said: ... So to confirm - sell Fofana this summer. £70m + Colwill This is it though isn`t it, a point people don`t want to hear - sell to buy, plug multiple gaps, go again If you want to sell to proliferate your model, a model that has brought great success, then you have to sell at a price that is tolerable to the buyer, and no this doesn't mean like a fiver, it means the the maximum price you can practically get without driving the buyer elsewhere. I have come around to the idea of him going as a smart move, assuming we get this maximised price People quoting over 80m is just fan talk and in no way indicative of a cost we could achieve IMHO Also doubt we would get Colwill with a buyback Anyway, back to the naughty step 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The People's Hero Posted 4 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 4 August 2022 Fofana probably goes but the fee is going to be unreal. Wouldn't be surprised if we are working Colwill in to the deal and Colwill comes out with a high value just to screw St Etienne on the pay away. I haven't heard much on this other than that Chelsea are very very engaged. LCFC so far just rejecting offers; not negotiating, but there simply must be a price. Someone suggested to me the bite point is £70mn and Colwill but I have no reason to believe that they are right other than that they've been right before. I simply don't believe the board would show their hand to the person in question. That said; I reckon it would test LCFC's resolve and is far more than already offered. What is definitely true is that every player offered from big 6 to LCFC in any deal has involved buy back clauses. We must avoid these on young players unless they profit is huge. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Colwill wants the move apparently, but that's 4th hand so take it with a pinch of salt, but told he starts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 70m and Colwill with no buyback would be fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Just now, Leicester_Loyal said: 70m and Colwill with no buyback would be fine by me. No chance, its a terrilble deal for Chelsea - suppose we could hope they channel their inner Man Utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The People's Hero Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Just now, Leicester_Loyal said: 70m and Colwill with no buyback would be fine by me. We don't get Colwill with no buyback in my view. Chelsea won't play him but they see the potential. I think a buyback is okay only on the basis the amount is large, and somehow index-linked; which is to say it must enlarge as the value of trasnfers does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Just now, Leicester_Loyal said: 70m and Colwill with no buyback would be fine by me. 75m and Colwill plus obligation to take Vestagaard for 8m after Wes has played 10 games for them, would be fine by me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 1 minute ago, The People's Hero said: Colwill wants the move apparently, but that's 4th hand so take it with a pinch of salt, but told he starts. The three hands in front of you are probably wishful thinking. I'm sure the lad wants to progress quickly but he plays for Chelsea and he must have known this would take time. However, Chelsea have given a chance to most of their outstanding academy players in the the last few years and if he is patient , he will get his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 5 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: 70m and Colwill with no buyback would be fine by me. What if we want to buy Fofana back at some point?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Any sort of buy back would be terrible has we could get screwed again sometime in the future. A sell on clause for Wes is a must. He will move again in 2-3 years to a Spanish Club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 8 hours ago, Babylon said: Look closer and the Vulture is putting a cheque for £80m in the Zebras pocket. Fofana 85m straight cash deal....or Colwill+ 70m or Fofana, Vesty and Bertrand and we'll give them 20m. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: No chance, its a terrilble deal for Chelsea - suppose we could hope they channel their inner Man Utd 4 minutes ago, The People's Hero said: We don't get Colwill with no buyback in my view. Chelsea won't play him but they see the potential. I think a buyback is okay only on the basis the amount is large, and somehow index-linked; which is to say it must enlarge as the value of trasnfers does. Yeah I don't think they'll do it either, likely to be 55m and Colwill. Think I'd probably even take 50m and Colwill with no buy back. 4 minutes ago, mozartfox said: 75m and Colwill plus obligation to take Vestagaard for 8m after Wes has played 10 games for them, would be fine by me. 1 minute ago, urban.spaceman said: What if we want to buy Fofana back at some point?! Now you're just being silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller 7 Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Why would we sell Fofana for under 100m. By the end of next season he’ll be worth way more than that, with a number of the big boys begging for his signature. We need to hold our nerve now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 The thing is, Fofana takes us from a mid table team to a European contender, he is that good. Of course we would need a squad capable of challenging for Europe along side him but he can make a lot of difference (see last season). However, if we need cash now/reduce wages, then we have a fantastic opportunity to get a good deal if it can be agreed. Fofana swaps for Colwill and £55-60m (if we can squeeze that). As above, even £50m plus Colwill would be a good deal. We would have Soyuncu, Evans with Colwill/Amartey as back up and Vestergaard an emergency. That is still a solid backline and I think Soyuncu still has a lot to offer. Fofana is world class and if he doesn't leave this season it will be next or the one after latest, he simply is too good for us. So if we can get a good deal now with a CB (e.g. Colwill) coming to us as part of the deal, then that is fantastic business. If we had stacks of money I wouldn't be happy of course as we should stik it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 4 minutes ago, Weller 7 said: Why would we sell Fofana for under 100m. By the end of next season he’ll be worth way more than that, with a number of the big boys begging for his signature. We need to hold our nerve now. I guess it all depends how desperate we are for cash/freeing up wages right now. By the sounds of things we need to get rid of one more. I would feel more comfortable letting a CB go than our most creative attacking player Maddison. Even though Fofana is a class above everyone else, a Soyuncu/Evans partnership is not too shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 6 hours ago, filbertway said: He can want the move without being impatient. As long as he's cracking on, being professional and performing well then it's fine. Of course he wants the move, it'd be a significant step up for the lad. It doesn't mean he's being unprofessional about about it and kicking up a fuss though. ...that information surely takes a few millions off the price tag!!! If teams push hard enough and does not match our price, if the player wishes to go next season then he will push for it. The players needs become paramount and the club will have to cope with a player unhappy to be here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 22 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: No chance, its a terrilble deal for Chelsea - suppose we could hope they channel their inner Man Utd But it would have to be a deal weighted in our favour to get him otherwise why would we entertain selling him? We hold all the cards, long contract, don't need to sell etc. In a way its similar to the Ghezzal deal in which Fenherbace held all the cards and we had to accept a terrible deal rather than keep him on the books and not playing. Personally, I'd rather just fermez the bloody fenetre and go with what we have. No point in selling a proven asset in order to but unproven ones and his value will likely increase next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Weller 7 said: Why would we sell Fofana for under 100m. By the end of next season he’ll be worth way more than that, with a number of the big boys begging for his signature. We need to hold our nerve now. People keep saying that but who is splashing that for him? Real Madrid Record fee : Hazard €115 M. Record for a defender : Militao €50m Barca : Dembele €140m Def: Kounde €50m Atletico : Felix €127m Def: Hermoso €25m PSG : Neymar €222m Def: Hakimi €67m Bayern : Hernandez €80m Juve : Ronaldo €117m Def: De Ligt €87m In terms of Prem teams and defenders : Maguire £80m Van Dijk £77m Kepa £72m Dias £61m So he'll be worth way more than he is now even though right now people are having him as the most expensive defender ever and at a price that would make him a lot of clubs record signing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 I can definitely see him going for £100M + Chelsea are clearly desperate to get him, so okay on that desperation. Not being funny, but he’s probably one of the most talented players I’ve ever seen. What makes him even more impressive is he has walked back from this injury as if it never happened. However, I think he will stay for one more season with us, let’s face it, the treatment he got to overcome his injury was pretty good. And despite what people think he will remember that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trugerkem Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 Everyday I’m reading the same predictions…. Here’s a plan…. Wait and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Shire Fox Posted 4 August 2022 Share Posted 4 August 2022 21 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: I just want one season from this dude to get us back into Europa League and then he can go for big money. Same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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