blabyboy Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 Another bow in the quiver for the long game: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/08/all-out-economic-warfare-best-way-stop-putin And a massive to Norway, can't think of many other countries that would write that amount of wealth off at a stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 21 minutes ago, blabyboy said: McDonalds have not left, neither has KFC, Burger King etc... which fast food joints were you referring to? And in perhaps the biggest irony, Coca-Cola are firmly still in there as well.. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/mar/08/pressure-grows-on-mcdonalds-and-coca-cola-to-suspend-russia-operations My bad they've not then dunno where I thought I read that but the rest of my point stands. What was he thinking would happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabyboy Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 1 minute ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: My bad they've not then dunno where I thought I read that but the rest of my point stands. What was he thinking would happen. I'm not sure we'll ever find out tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 This was 7 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpacedX Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 1 hour ago, Countryfox said: They will pull out .. or it will ultimately cost them .. the world is becoming galvanised by what is happening. And indeed they are - or at least announcing the suspension of operations and the closure of their restaurants for now. Like I said, it's the share price that does the talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 I think it’s slightly different for McDonalds than some of the other big companies being discussed as a proportion of their restaurants are franchises which they can’t shut without not filling the obligations to the franchisees however they do own a proportion of the restaurants out there which they could close I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabyboy Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 9 minutes ago, Nick said: I think it’s slightly different for McDonalds than some of the other big companies being discussed as a proportion of their restaurants are franchises which they can’t shut without not filling the obligations to the franchisees however they do own a proportion of the restaurants out there which they could close I understand. Pretty much what is said in the article I referenced. It is complicated! But money talks and bull5h1t walks so as @Line-X points out, via the share price, the market will ultimately decide if they pull out altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 (edited) McDonald's Update Temporary Suspension of Operations in Russia Edited 8 March 2022 by Smudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabyboy Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 2 minutes ago, Smudge said: McDonalds Update Think your link is knackered mate, it just refers back to the first page of this thread. Have you copy/pasta'd it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 1 minute ago, blabyboy said: Think your link is knackered mate, it just refers back to the first page of this thread. Have you copy/pasta'd it right? Working now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Col city fan Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 2 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: So as I understand it with my limited knowledge, Russia is now absolutely up the creek? Everyone from visa to PayPal to fast food joints, international sports across the board, basically any company outside of Russia is boycotting them and the currency is absolutely decimated? Surely this was always going to happen? How did he ever think this was a good idea, what was he trying to achieve? Doesn't make sense to me. We can only hope that now the Russians themselves really will turn on Putin. Which I guess is the plan of the Western nations 🤷♂️ The normal Russian ‘man on the street’ must be getting very worried about the currency and the impact on their standard of living, despite all the propaganda to the contrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 5 minutes ago, Col city fan said: We can only hope that now the Russians themselves really will turn on Putin. Which I guess is the plan of the Western nations 🤷♂️ The normal Russian ‘man on the street’ must be getting very worried about the currency and the impact on their standard of living, despite all the propaganda to the contrary? Don’t hold your breath Col .. they just have interviewed a few Ruskies in the street .. oh yes we are 100% behind Mr Putin ! .. and they weren’t oldies either .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 Why don’t they freeze then confiscate all the money of every oligarch in the UK (including Putins blue eyed boy Abramovitch) .. and use it to subsidise fuel costs. If they moan about it just tell them to do one and fook off back to Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 Germany really seem to have got themselves into a fairly deep energy hole. Wtf did they can their nuclear program? Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 10 minutes ago, Col city fan said: We can only hope that now the Russians themselves really will turn on Putin. Which I guess is the plan of the Western nations 🤷♂️ The normal Russian ‘man on the street’ must be getting very worried about the currency and the impact on their standard of living, despite all the propaganda to the contrary? Some domestic pressure is necessary, definitely. But if someone like Putin starts to feel pressured regarding his own fate, this war will simply escalate. (Apparently he was particularly worried by what happened to Gaddafi) I hope we have plans for allowing the return of services in return for certain actions. The propaganda and censorship of Russia also means those applying sanctions are getting blamed as is there was no provocation. We can’t afford to alienate a whole country against us. Future leaders in Russia are among these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Countryfox said: Don’t hold your breath Col .. they just have interviewed a few Ruskies in the street .. oh yes we are 100% behind Mr Putin ! .. and they weren’t oldies either .. Don't you think they'd be wondering who's watching? Edited 8 March 2022 by Smudge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 58 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: This was 7 years ago! He was speaking about Islamic extremism and advising we cosy up to putin to help us fight it im not sure how much of a threat Islamic extremism currently is compared to Russian expansionism ….. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 The worst is yet to come for the Ukrainians .. we must give them a few migs via Poland asap so that they can attack that huge convoy of death before it gets moving. They will move soon when Mad Vlad gets his fuel lines set up. He’ll spout of again . but so what. Push a button .. I don’t think so. He’s getting cornered now and we need to turn the screw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 3 minutes ago, Smudge said: Don't you think they'd wondering who's watching? I don't think FT mods have that much reach. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Countryfox said: The worst is yet to come for the Ukrainians .. we must give them a few migs via Poland asap so that they can attack that huge convoy of death before it gets moving. They will move soon when Mad Vlad gets his fuel lines set up. He’ll spout of again . but so what. Push a button .. I don’t think so. He’s getting cornered now and we need to turn the screw. I watched, with interest that Oxford Union interview with Sir John Sawers (ex MI6 Head). He related a story told by Putin about a time when he was a boy and was chasing rats in his building. Eventually Putin relates, he had one cornered and rather than giving in, it jumped at his neck and escaped. Putin's moral to the story was, don't corner a rat. Sawyers' take was that Putin shouldn't be cornered either and needs to be given a face saving exit. Edited 8 March 2022 by Smudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stivo Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 (edited) Well the poles are giving ukraine migs (at arms length) https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine Edited 8 March 2022 by Stivo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudge Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 8 minutes ago, Daggers said: I don't think FT mods have that much reach. If I was you I wouldn't rest that easy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 8 March 2022 Share Posted 8 March 2022 (edited) . Edited 9 March 2022 by fox_favourite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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