MPH Posted 30 June 2023 Share Posted 30 June 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zear0 said: A line miles long of scousers blowing hot air east. Barry Hayles is bigger than this.. Edited 30 June 2023 by MPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 30 June 2023 Share Posted 30 June 2023 Perhaps worth seeing if there’s any potassium iodinr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 (edited) On 29/06/2023 at 07:34, Dahnsouff said: All very strange with Belarus and Prigozhin, not sure what to make of it, but I also see Lukashenko is ramping up the rhetoric further now. I believe that Prigozhin simply lost his nerve - that he is no real soldier, but an opportunist who found himself, like many others drawn to a tyrant, both favoured but also subservient to the whims of his master. When Caesar decided to march on Rome, in 49 B.C. he is said to have made his decision to 'go all the way' at the River Rubicon. Personally, I don't think he thought about turning back at all. Prigozhin showed his true nature by backing down. Thus he becomes contemptible not only as a thug, but as a coward and vacillator as well. He showed himself to be a lapdog after all - he might believe he's safe or that he he's still in charge of Wagner, but Putin will show no sentiment. He now has to worry about all those pretenders to the throne who will now, sensing his vulnerability, be gunning for position. Edited 1 July 2023 by gerblod A stray 'it' wandered in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 Putin has been popping up all over the place and it seems fairly obvious to me that the body double has been used but no one in the media seems to mention it anymore. Just have a look at the two pics below .. one has a defined neck and jaw and the other hasn't .. and his hooter is slightly different too ! The one who blabs away on the stage and meets other leaders is no doubt the real despot .. and the one that risks his neck walking through the crowds with a silly smile on his face and draws little men on a white board is no doubt Oleg Potemkin from Siberia .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesDeb Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 1 hour ago, Countryfox said: Putin has been popping up all over the place and it seems fairly obvious to me that the body double has been used but no one in the media seems to mention it anymore. Just have a look at the two pics below .. one has a defined neck and jaw and the other hasn't .. and his hooter is slightly different too ! The one who blabs away on the stage and meets other leaders is no doubt the real despot .. and the one that risks his neck walking through the crowds with a silly smile on his face and draws little men on a white board is no doubt Oleg Potemkin from Siberia .. They are the same person just with photos taken at a different angle, aren't they? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 14 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said: They are the same person just with photos taken at a different angle, aren't they? The thing that would be a better indicator would be the ears and they can't be compared in those pics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom27111 Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 16 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said: They are the same person just with photos taken at a different angle, aren't they? Just now, Parafox said: The thing that would be a better indicator would be the ears and they can't be compared in those pics He was spotted in a St Petersburg Park earlier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 1 minute ago, tom27111 said: He was spotted in a St Petersburg Park earlier... Same eyes, gotta be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 1 July 2023 Share Posted 1 July 2023 2 hours ago, FoxesDeb said: They are the same person just with photos taken at a different angle, aren't they? If you think the real Vlad would wander through the crowds when he normally doesn’t go within 30 ft of anyone .. and draw little men on a white board .. then you can’t be the clever Foxes Deb that I know .. another bloody double !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 4 July 2023 Share Posted 4 July 2023 Just trying to rid the country of Nazis… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 The thought of that power plant being attacked is frightening. Who in the right mind would attack or cause the reactors damage and cause wide spread death and destruction that would last for decades. This is seriously dark and terrifying. maybe thats the idea, but it shouldn't even be in the thinking. What a Terrible world we live in. I so hope this is all just paper talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 1 minute ago, fox_favourite said: The thought of that power plant being attacked is frightening. Who in the right mind would attack or cause the reactors damage and cause wide spread death and destruction that would last for decades. This is seriously dark and terrifying. maybe thats the idea, but it shouldn't even be in the thinking. What a Terrible world we live in. I so hope this is all just paper talk The same people who bombed a theatre marked "children", destroyed a dam, captured and raped women in front of their children in Bucha and abducted 700,000 children. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 I think the UN needs to be more active in this situation and bring everyone in line and say how mad this is! This situation and even talking about it is completely unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox1norfolk Posted 5 July 2023 Share Posted 5 July 2023 26 minutes ago, fox_favourite said: I think the UN needs to be more active in this situation and bring everyone in line and say how mad this is! This situation and even talking about it is completely unacceptable 26 minutes ago, fox_favourite said: I think the UN needs to be more active in this situation and bring everyone in line and say how mad this is! This situation and even talking about it is completely unacceptable Agree the UN need to be involved urgently. Sadly there are going to be no winners. Since the war started in 2014 mainly around the territories who are pro-Russian, who speak Russian and not Ukraine, want to belong to Russia basically means if the Ukraine pushes all Russian forces out of its country, the problem will still be there. A great result but not the answer. Unfortunately, I believe some form of partition of the pro- Russian areas is an option that should be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 6 July 2023 Share Posted 6 July 2023 7 hours ago, fox_favourite said: I think the UN needs to be more active in this situation and bring everyone in line and say how mad this is! This situation and even talking about it is completely unacceptable 6 hours ago, Fox1norfolk said: Agree the UN need to be involved urgently. Sadly there are going to be no winners. Since the war started in 2014 mainly around the territories who are pro-Russian, who speak Russian and not Ukraine, want to belong to Russia basically means if the Ukraine pushes all Russian forces out of its country, the problem will still be there. A great result but not the answer. Unfortunately, I believe some form of partition of the pro- Russian areas is an option that should be considered. As much as I agree with the sentiment, what exactly can or should the UN do? The way the UN security council is set up is so that the "Big Five" can fvck with pretty much anyone they like when they like with next to zero consequence, as long as they don't fvck with each other. That's happened so many times in the past and will happen again in the future, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Flamey Posted 6 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 6 July 2023 Is this real? It nearly went in Phunny photos thread. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 6 July 2023 Share Posted 6 July 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Flamey said: Is this real? It nearly went in Phunny photos thread. No wig, no hit. Shit. Edited 6 July 2023 by Zear0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66140460 A necessity to fight fire with fire, or an indiscriminate threat to the civilian population? Or both? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66043946 There is a lot of umming and ahhing over here on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 43 minutes ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66140460 A necessity to fight fire with fire, or an indiscriminate threat to the civilian population? Or both? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66043946 There is a lot of umming and ahhing over here on this topic. it’s a tricky one. there’s likely to be some pretty strict stipulations as to its use and I suspect that the requirements will be for them to be used for clearing the vast array of trenches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 4 hours ago, MPH said: it’s a tricky one. there’s likely to be some pretty strict stipulations as to its use and I suspect that the requirements will be for them to be used for clearing the vast array of trenches.. I guess they'd be useful in clearing the extensive minefields Russian forces have emplaced in order to slow the Ukrainian advance. There's been speculation that, once these obstacles have been breached, the Russian troops behind them will begin to waver. Apparently, there are special army units tasked with shooting those who desert their stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 6 hours ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66140460 A necessity to fight fire with fire, or an indiscriminate threat to the civilian population? Or both? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66043946 There is a lot of umming and ahhing over here on this topic. The use of cluster bombs is is probably not the best idea if they want to reclaim and redevelop the land for Ukraine. I know that there were still casualties from cluster bombs used in Vietnam decades after the war finished. One issue was them landing in rice paddies and not detonating. It also didn't help that the yanks painted them bright colours so kids would pick them up. However if Russia has already been using cluster bombs and mines extensively what's the difference in a few more. Especially if used to clear mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post casablancas Posted 8 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 8 July 2023 Give Ukraine all they need. Russians have already used cluster and thermobaric munitions. Also used the damn as a weapon let’s not forget. What weapons Ukraine use on their soil bar chemical, biological and nuclear should be their decision. We’d be yammering for the same if we were under siege. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, gerblod said: I guess they'd be useful in clearing the extensive minefields Russian forces have emplaced in order to slow the Ukrainian advance. There's been speculation that, once these obstacles have been breached, the Russian troops behind them will begin to waver. Apparently, there are special army units tasked with shooting those who desert their stations. To employ men to shoot your own...that's horrendous. Having fear from the front and fear from behind..... Edited 8 July 2023 by fox_favourite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlo Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 48 minutes ago, Captain... said: The use of cluster bombs is is probably not the best idea if they want to reclaim and redevelop the land for Ukraine. I know that there were still casualties from cluster bombs used in Vietnam decades after the war finished. One issue was them landing in rice paddies and not detonating. It also didn't help that the yanks painted them bright colours so kids would pick them up. However if Russia has already been using cluster bombs and mines extensively what's the difference in a few more. Especially if used to clear mines. Yep thats the problem that it will take decades to demine and remove all the failed cluster munitions from Ukraine. Both sides were using soviet era cluster munitions in 2014/15 when the conflict started in Donbas and in fact most civilian casaulties between 2015 and feb 2022, when it was pretty much a frozen conflict, were a result of unexploded mines or cluster munitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 8 July 2023 Share Posted 8 July 2023 (edited) On 06/07/2023 at 16:06, Flamey said: Is this real? It nearly went in Phunny photos thread. I'm not sure disguising himself as John McCririck is a great idea as it's common knowledge that he's dead. Edit: McCririck is dead, I mean, though Prigozhin's future prospects don't look too rosy either. Edited 8 July 2023 by Alf Bentley 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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