MPH Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 So I’m assuming Belarus is getting sanctioned for its role in all this? Not hearing much about all that.. but that triggers another point… can you imagine how badly this invasion would be going if Russia didn’t have the support of the Belarusians? I mean it’s somewhat botched as it is but it would be so much worse without their support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 WRT Biden calling Putin a "war criminal": "Russia has angrily condemned the "unacceptable and unforgivable rhetoric", with officials in Moscow accusing the Americans of having killed "hundreds of thousands of people around the world"." I mean, it's a typical whataboutery response but that last part is technically correct: look at the Middle East and Latin America. Oh, and some of SE Asia too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: WRT Biden calling Putin a "war criminal": "Russia has angrily condemned the "unacceptable and unforgivable rhetoric", with officials in Moscow accusing the Americans of having killed "hundreds of thousands of people around the world"." I mean, it's a typical whataboutery response but that last part is technically correct: look at the Middle East and Latin America. Oh, and some of SE Asia too. biden just about squeezes out of this one for me on the basis that he didn’t orchestrate any of that. we all know that Putin is in charge right now in Russia and everything is on him…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 1 minute ago, MPH said: biden just about squeezes out of this one for me on the basis that he didn’t orchestrate any of that. we all know that Putin is in charge right now in Russia and everything is on him…. That's a fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 26 minutes ago, MPH said: biden just about squeezes out of this one for me on the basis that he didn’t orchestrate any of that. we all know that Putin is in charge right now in Russia and everything is on him…. Biden has been around US politics for a long time, he has to take some accountability imo. Still as a response it is pretty hilarious "takes one to know one"| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, MPH said: biden just about squeezes out of this one for me on the basis that he didn’t orchestrate any of that. we all know that Putin is in charge right now in Russia and everything is on him…. Absolutely not. POTUS is an office, an elected position (indirectly) and it carries around all past victories and offences, the US isn’t a despotic regime! Edited 17 March 2022 by Dahnsouff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 8 hours ago, Col city fan said: It makes me wonder what will happen to Putin when this terrible mess reaches some sort of conclusion. ‘I’d honestly not be surprised if the cvnt gets off scot-free for fear of ‘inciting another war’ or something along those lines I have absolutely no doubt he will. Nobody can touch him. He'll never be held accountable for anything unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoareyaaa Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 reports saying Russian army has hardly made any movement over the last days.. Ukraine agree not to join NATO and Russia pull out we hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 5 hours ago, MPH said: So I’m assuming Belarus is getting sanctioned for its role in all this? Not hearing much about all that.. but that triggers another point… can you imagine how badly this invasion would be going if Russia didn’t have the support of the Belarusians? I mean it’s somewhat botched as it is but it would be so much worse without their support I imagine they'd have gone for a much slower approach or just attempted to take the regions they were initially citing as reasons to invade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
when_you're_smiling Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 Are the two Leicester fans who’ve driven to help out at the Ukraine/Poland border on here? Absolutely amazing effort! They’re featured in the Guardian Football Weekly podcast from yesterday. Skip to about 11 mins from the end. https://www.theguardian.com/football/audio/2022/mar/16/manchester-united-bow-out-and-chelsea-statement-saga-football-weekly-podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 The bloke’s mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 2 hours ago, ARTY_FOX said: I have absolutely no doubt he will. Nobody can touch him. He'll never be held accountable for anything unfortunately. He has his own SS style palace guard - internal security service some 400k strong to ensure that . if the Russian people decide they’ve had enough of this vampire and the kleptomaniacs who back him they could do a lot worse than try to persuade the fantastically courageous , dignified ( and beautiful) t v editor who held up that sign to stand for president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said: The bloke’s mental. I’m sure his face is getting fatter as the weeks go by …… perhaps he is on steroids ….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 8 hours ago, MPH said: So I’m assuming Belarus is getting sanctioned for its role in all this? Not hearing much about all that.. but that triggers another point… can you imagine how badly this invasion would be going if Russia didn’t have the support of the Belarusians? I mean it’s somewhat botched as it is but it would be so much worse without their support you could probably buy Belarus with money found down the back of the sofa so there's not much mileage in it - but your point is valid- it might result in their glove puppet Lukashenko getting the Ceaucescu treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 15 minutes ago, surrifox said: you could probably buy Belarus with money found down the back of the sofa so there's not much mileage in it - but your point is valid- it might result in their glove puppet Lukashenko getting the Ceaucescu treatment Working with folks in Belarus for many years, I do not imagine there would be days of mourning, thats for sure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guvnor Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 1 hour ago, st albans fox said: I’m sure his face is getting fatter as the weeks go by …… perhaps he is on steroids ….. Yes McDonald's did shut up shop but where did all there frozen burgers go. Think that puzzles been solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 Kinnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 16 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Kinnell 672k followers? Get f*****d, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 25 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Kinnell Does it say 'attention seeker' in his bio ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 2 hours ago, surrifox said: you could probably buy Belarus with money found down the back of the sofa so there's not much mileage in it - but your point is valid- it might result in their glove puppet Lukashenko getting the Ceaucescu treatment 1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said: Working with folks in Belarus for many years, I do not imagine there would be days of mourning, thats for sure.... they protested vehemently after the last election was rigged but sadly the russian and Belarusian security services and police were quite draconian with their treatment of protesters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 4 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: The bloke’s mental. Big exodus of rich Russians to Dubai apparently last night. It all seems to be building towards something extremely bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 38 minutes ago, bovril said: Big exodus of rich Russians to Dubai apparently last night. It all seems to be building towards something extremely bad. Very surprised many of them have gotten out the country. Still no martial law, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabyboy Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 24 minutes ago, westernpark said: Very surprised many of them have gotten out the country. Still no martial law, yet. Would the law really apply to them though??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bovril said: Big exodus of rich Russians to Dubai apparently last night. It all seems to be building towards something extremely bad. Perhaps the v wealthy ones are nervous of putin losing control and a modern day version of the Bolshevik revolution! Edited 17 March 2022 by st albans fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 17 March 2022 Share Posted 17 March 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, blabyboy said: Would the law really apply to them though??? Some of them most certainly, likely to be seen as too Western and will be targets for propaganda. I see much of Putins rhetoric yesterday as preparation for post-war Russia. I think he plans to get on with domestic agenda like nothing has happened, getting rid of those with Western links, likely to be linked to wealth, is one way to support this. Edited 17 March 2022 by westernpark Unclear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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