Ukraine

[yorkie1999]

3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Russian missile just landed in Poland and killed 2 people.

Not good, artilcle 5 on it's way.

[Zear0]

Oh dear. 

[chapero82]

2 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Not good, artilcle 5 on it's way.

They wouldn’t dare 

[rachhere]

The curse of the 2020s continues. 

[kenny]

Russia has fired over 100 missiles today at various cities throughout Ukraine. I doubt there are many military targets being aimed at.

[foxy boxing]

12 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Russian missile just landed in Poland and killed 2 people.

Putin wants NATO to get involved because he's losing and wants to galvanise the Russian people who are growing increasingly against the war. He clearly wants to provoke a response.

[yorkie1999]

13 minutes ago, chapero82 said:

They wouldn’t dare 

Probably not, but thinking about it, it's a couple of stray missiles, not an actual attack on a nato country.

[Trumpet]

Huge test for NATO. News reporters look spooked.

[yorkie1999]

Look on the bright side, we got to see Leicester win both the league and the FA cup.

[kenny]

8 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Probably not, but thinking about it, it's a couple of stray missiles, not an actual attack on a nato country.

This is the tack they will take.

 

This may start a dialogue between NATO and Russia though. I suspect Russia will just blame Ukraine for them.

[fox_up_north]

It's more than likely a stray missile. This feels like Russia desperately flinging its arms, after Kherson, the strong words at COP and the meeting of US/ China.

 

The reports are they're running low on everything and this could be them trying to wear Ukraine down before winter properly kicks in. 

 

I suspect we'll see them try to get around the table in the new year but wouldn't hold my breath. 

[bovril]

This was always going to happen 

[when_you're_smiling]

Now being reported it might have landed in Poland after being shot down by Ukraine. 

[westernpark]

Salisbury 2018? We were attacked by the Russian state. Nothing will happen as a result of this.

[Lionator]

Jesus Christ the reaction to this has been crazy, does everyone just live in a constant state of anxiety? 
 

NATO is not going to declare war on Russia because of two stray missiles hitting a couple of farmers 5km from the Ukraine border. Relax. 

[Lionator]

17 minutes ago, westernpark said:

Salisbury 2018? We were attacked by the Russian state. Nothing will happen as a result of this.

They literally shot down a passenger jet killing hundreds of NATO citizens. 
 

Conversly Turkey shot down a Russian military jet and nothing happened in response. 

[Leeds Fox]

It’ll be palmed off as a ‘mistake’, plenty of targets in Poland (and other locations) should they really want a response.

 

NATO don’t want involvement closer than at an arms length.

[Ginger_Filbert]

1 minute ago, Lionator said:

Jesus Christ the reaction to this has been crazy, does everyone just live in a constant state of anxiety? 
 

NATO is not going to declare war on Russia because of two stray missiles hitting a couple of farmers 5km from the Ukraine border. Relax. 

If it is two missiles and not one then they’ll do well to pass them both off as stray. 

[westernpark]

9 minutes ago, Lionator said:

They literally shot down a passenger jet killing hundreds of NATO citizens. 
 

Conversly Turkey shot down a Russian military jet and nothing happened in response. 

To do something over this, when we consider MH17 and Salisbury and the cowardice that we showed in response, would be illogical, they were not accidents! That cowardice by the west has been a factor in Putin’s aggression.

[Lionator]

11 minutes ago, Ginger_Filbert said:

If it is two missiles and not one then they’ll do well to pass them both off as stray. 

Even in the exceptionally unlikely event that Russia fired these into Poland on purpose, it doesn’t really change much. I notice the Russians are denying it so at worst it’s an accident. 

[weller54]

10 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Even in the exceptionally unlikely event that Russia fired these into Poland on purpose, it doesn’t really change much. I notice the Russians are denying it so at worst it’s an accident. 

Like their Special Military Operation in Ukraine? 😂

[MPH]

NATO will demand an immediate response and explanation from Russia.
 

It’s very possible that NATO could respond by destroying some Russian  rocket launchers stationed in Ukraine. It would never attack anything inside of Russia without Russia attacking a NATO country full on.  

 

if the reports of Ukraine shooting down a missile and it straying into Polish territory are accurate then it would be hard to pin this one on Russia.

 

 

NATO will want to establish the full facts before issuing a response.

[weller54]

1 hour ago, kenny said:

This is the tack they will take.

 

This may start a dialogue between NATO and Russia though. I suspect Russia will just blame Ukraine for them.

...or Wellens.

[turlo]

They will either say it was a mistake like the yanks did when they struck the Chinese Embassy in Serbia or the missile was knocked off course by a Ukrainian anti air defence. At most NATO could bring in a no missile zone close to the Polish border West of Ukraine - they already have Patriot and the new British Sky Sabre anti air defence system deployed along the border.

[LCFCCHRIS]

26 minutes ago, Lionator said:

Jesus Christ the reaction to this has been crazy, does everyone just live in a constant state of anxiety? 
 

NATO is not going to declare war on Russia because of two stray missiles hitting a couple of farmers 5km from the Ukraine border. Relax. 

Of course NATO Definitely shouldn't declare war or retaliate militarily, but it's not nothing either. The Polish will be furious about this. Russia responding with indignation about something that they've clearly done is frustrating also.