Season tickets 2022/2023 (going up)

[hejammy]

5 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

It’s not a normal business. No normal business has a £120m to £140m guaranteed income every year. Neither does a normal business have such a product that can’t not be sought in another way. 
 

I haven’t seen anyone say the club owes anyone favour - so I don’t know how this line has cottoned on.
 

Fans are concerned about a price increase in a cost of living crisis and the club receives record income sum. Neither have I seen anyone make an entitled claim.
 

I could point out that a good chunk of the current season ticket holders did contribute when the club was at lowest ebb. 
 

It will hit new season ticket holders as well; what may have been affordable may not so be so over time. 

Apart from those who were up in arms when suggested they make their own sandwiches once a month?

 

Apart from those who complain about the price increase as a 'oh but look at their turnover' (as mentioned before turnover means nothing)?

 

Apart from those who complain about ST price increase but won't sacrifice one pint a month to have the luxury of going to a football match.

 

People need to grow up. Be realistic and cut their cloth accordingly. You want to go to an entertainment venue then maybe you have to make sacrifices elsewhere. The club isn't a charity. 

 

This is not about not having empathy for those who will be 'priced out'. It's realism and the way of the world. 

Edited 10 March 2022 by hejammy

[Spudulike]

12 minutes ago, davieG said:

I'm right on the edge of G1 in the corner and I love my view of the pitch. If they're the cheapest that suits me fine.

The corner seats do give a very decent view, especially the ones high up. 

[fox_up_north]

Again, the other issue is the travel to games. The ST itself might not be that "expensive" but if you get one, that locks you in to spend the travel money. That's why I not justifying going to more games, even though I've finally got a stable job after a couple years of short term contracts. 

 

I've worked out that petrol per game, currently, is about £25 and that's parking with friends then walking to stadium. So every ticket at home gets a £25 surcharge. Obviously people closer may "only" pay £10 in petrol but that's still £20 extra every month. 

[Rain King]

10 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Cheapest adult for a Cat A fixture is £32, but only in P2, P3 and C2, A1, everywhere else is between £42-£53 

 

So at least 80% of the ground is £42+

Don't forget the pathetic transaction fee they sneaked in on the sly.

[CosbehFox]

Just now, hejammy said:

Apart from those who were up in arms when suggested they make their own sandwiches once a month? Apart from those who complain about the price increase as a 'oh but look at their turnover (as mentioned before turnover means nothing)? Apart from those who complain about ST price increase but won't sacrifice one pint a month to have the luxury of going to a football match. People need to grow up. Be realistic and cut their cloth accordingly. You want to go to an entertainment venue then maybe you have to make sacrifices elsewhere. The club isn't a charity. 

 

 

What you’ve just mentioned makes no correlation to thinking the club owe a favour. It’s placing the potential price increase in context. 
 

It’s the last I’m going to say on it but expecting people to live a life of just work, pay the bills, eat basic food, don’t socialise is tragic. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Everyone on this board will be priced out at some point. It's just how long you're willing/able to hold out. Then when it's your turn you'll wonder why no one did anything sooner but by that point it's too late. 

[The boy Linacre]

12 hours ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

Yet again, it is a case of not being ungrateful but being more efficient with the money being spent. Feel free to disagree, but I think that most would sacrifice the free warm can of beer we occasionally get for a freeze in ticket prices. Or as above, we could bin the clappers off because they are terrible, cost money and are awful for the environment. 

 

Of course we have fantastic owners, that is undisputed but pricing fans out should be avoided at all costs - especially when ticket revenue makes up a small chunk of the money.

Just had a look online, the more clap banners you buy the cheaper they are, so on that principle:

19 League games, 27.5k fans (could be 30k), 45p per clap banner, that's £235k, another £20k/£30k for cup games, (all very conservative estimates, it could be more) that's heading towards half for/of the ticket rise.

Think its been brilliant they have frozen the prices for so long, and think all fans would thank the club massively and for giving us times never seen before.

 

But fans & the club tbf have just come out of a financially challenging covid period, we now ALL have this energy cost spike and the impact of the war, its not the best time sadly.  Maybe they could have waited one more year but the banners going (and they have probably had there day-lots of kids in the family stand just throw them around during the game!) would cover a decent bit of that revenue generated by the ticket increase.

 

Interestingly as well no handouts from the club this season on away trips, still got me hat from Brighton and various scarves.  Thought a midweek schlepp up to Burnley would have been prime for a freebie!!  Guess not this season now.

[Spudulike]

6 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

Again, the other issue is the travel to games. The ST itself might not be that "expensive" but if you get one, that locks you in to spend the travel money. That's why I not justifying going to more games, even though I've finally got a stable job after a couple years of short term contracts. 

 

I've worked out that petrol per game, currently, is about £25 and that's parking with friends then walking to stadium. So every ticket at home gets a £25 surcharge. Obviously people closer may "only" pay £10 in petrol but that's still £20 extra every month. 

That's very true. I reckon it costs me £30 in diesel for every home game but that's for two of us. Still much, much cheaper than the train which really is unaffordable. That £30 is increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if it costs me £50 by next season. I never buy food or drink in the concourse and always find free parking eventhough it's often a decent walk away, which I don't mind as I stroll pass the lines of queuing traffic. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

44 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

I find it utterly baffling that some people simply can't empathise with other people's financial situations.

Exactly. We're the "Leicester City family" apparently, unless you can't afford to go, then fvck off peasant.

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, Spudulike said:

That's very true. I reckon it costs me £30 in diesel for every home game but that's for two of us. Still much, much cheaper than the train which really is unaffordable. That £30 is increasing and I wouldn't be surprised if it costs me £50 by next season. I never buy food or drink in the concourse and always find free parking eventhough it's often a decent walk away, which I don't mind as I stroll pass the lines of queuing traffic. 

You mention the trains - a recent 3.4% on fares there. Public transport as an option isn’t possible for a lot of the county post match - even on Saturdays as well. So it has to be a car or a park and ride scheme 

[hejammy]

8 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Everyone on this board will be priced out at some point. It's just how long you're willing/able to hold out. Then when it's your turn you'll wonder why no one did anything sooner but by that point it's too late. 

Well if the club go on the currently trajectory of freezing tickets for 10 years and then an 8% increase, I think most people will find a way or sacrifice elsewhere if they really want to come. Over 20 years that will be an increase of £66 and over 30 years an increase of £103 in the whole year. You'd think that minimum wage etc would increase by at least that amount. 

[PAPA LAZAROU]

12 hours ago, Big Dave said:

….and the last can of Fosters I had there was warm 😡

Anyone who can bring themselves to drink Fosters deserves it warm.

[slymunn]

35 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

Again, the other issue is the travel to games. The ST itself might not be that "expensive" but if you get one, that locks you in to spend the travel money. That's why I not justifying going to more games, even though I've finally got a stable job after a couple years of short term contracts. 

 

I've worked out that petrol per game, currently, is about £25 and that's parking with friends then walking to stadium. So every ticket at home gets a £25 surcharge. Obviously people closer may "only" pay £10 in petrol but that's still £20 extra every month. 

Guessing you live in a similar area to me. My season ticket is 30 a month on direct debit but can cost 100 quid a month if I add petrol into the cost to watch Leicester.

 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

16 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Well if the club go on the currently trajectory of freezing tickets for 10 years and then an 8% increase, I think most people will find a way or sacrifice elsewhere if they really want to come. Over 20 years that will be an increase of £66 and over 30 years an increase of £103 in the whole year. You'd think that minimum wage etc would increase by at least that amount. 

Good job everything else in the world is staying the same price then, and everyone has loads of spare money to chuck at the football. 

[grobyfox1990]

41 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

Again, the other issue is the travel to games. The ST itself might not be that "expensive" but if you get one, that locks you in to spend the travel money. That's why I not justifying going to more games, even though I've finally got a stable job after a couple years of short term contracts. 

 

I've worked out that petrol per game, currently, is about £25 and that's parking with friends then walking to stadium. So every ticket at home gets a £25 surcharge. Obviously people closer may "only" pay £10 in petrol but that's still £20 extra every month. 

Yeh, I always drive conservatively and it used to be less than £20 return trip to matches. Eat at parents house, park for free and walk to the ground etc. now it’s £30-35 return with no traffic up the M1. I have been taking the train recently at about £40 return and it’s much easier, plus I always claim some money back for some unspecified inconvenience so works out cheaper too 

[hejammy]

1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Good job everything else in the world is staying the same price then, and everyone has loads of spare money to chuck at the football. 

Well that's clearly not what I was saying was it. You said everyone would be priced out of football if the tickets go up. I'm saying they are not going up any faster than anything else. Football is a luxury, the sooner people realise that the simpler this debate becomes. What is your suggestion? The club give free tickets out? 

[Leicesterpool]

If it meant were going to invest in the summer in the transfer window let's go for it.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

6 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Well that's clearly not what I was saying was it. You said everyone would be priced out of football if the tickets go up. I'm saying they are not going up any faster than anything else. Football is a luxury, the sooner people realise that the simpler this debate becomes. What is your suggestion? The club give free tickets out? 

No just use some of the 30 million ADDITIONAL TV REVENUE that the club will be getting next season to help out the "LCFC family" a tough time for people. 

 

But as long as you're alright, Jack.

[whitlock]

Any concrete information that there is going to be an increase and that the amount is 8%?

[hejammy]

4 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

No just use some of the 30 million ADDITIONAL TV REVENUE that the club will be getting next season to help out the "LCFC family" a tough time for people. 

 

But as long as you're alright, Jack.

Honestly I keep having to spell it out. Yes they'll maybe get £30m additional TV revenue, but as fans we 'demand' we continue to improve and get the players in. The £30m will barely pay for 1 player for the standard we want. The increase in ticket revenue pays for 30 members of staff as outlined by another poster. Business is about multiple revenue streams to enable it to get to where it wants to get to. If Top was taking £100s of millions away as profit then I'd say yes that's not right. But he isn't! Why shouldn't the club charge their customers in line with other clubs and inflation? I repeat they are not a charity.

I'm going to have to make some sacrifices too, it's life. All you've done is complain, have you once stopped to think what sacrifices you'll be willing to make? One less pint, one less meal deal etc a month? It's give and take 

Edited 10 March 2022 by hejammy

[KrefelderFox666]

7 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Well that's clearly not what I was saying was it. You said everyone would be priced out of football if the tickets go up. I'm saying they are not going up any faster than anything else. Football is a luxury, the sooner people realise that the simpler this debate becomes. What is your suggestion? The club give free tickets out? 

Are fans not the core of the club? Fully agree, football is a luxury on people's expenditure list but a lot of people love going to the football and will do what they can to continue that. However, pricing out loyal fans for something that gives the club very little income in comparison is not the way to go.

 

It would be nice if the football associations/government did something to cap all ticket prices for home and away fans. Then maybe clubs can operate more efficiently in other departments to ensure their cashflow is reasonable (such as not wasting money on useless players).

 

Football matches should be inclusive for all people and their incomes. It will get to a point where only the people who earn good money can afford to go (probably the demographic of an Arsenal match). One day the club will need the fans and by then they will have been rejected.

 

It's not about comparisons to other clubs, it's about an assessment of the whole. We might be well placed compared to other clubs, but every club is pricing out fans. As mentioned in a few places, get some examples from Europe and how clubs are run there (in particular Germany). Fans still have a say over there and have input to controlling the club. Bayern are a great example due to the size and success of the club, yet the key foundations of a strong fanbase are still in place.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

5 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Honestly I keep having to spell it out. Yes they'll maybe get £30m additional TV revenue, but as fans we 'demand' we continue to improve and get the players in. The £30m will barely pay for 1 player for the standard we want. The increase in ticket revenue pays for 30 members of staff as outlined by another poster. Business is about multiple revenue streams to enable it to get to where it wants to get to. If Top was taking £100s of millions away as profit then I'd say yes that's not right. But he isn't! Why shouldn't the club charge their customers in line with other clubs and inflation? I repeat they are not a charity.

I'm going to have to make some sacrifices too, it's life. All you've done is complain, have you once stopped to think what sacrifices you'll be willing to make? One less pint, one less meal deal etc a month? It's give and take 

We're not going to agree on this so let's just leave it. I hope you get a good few years longer before you have to give it up. 

[KrefelderFox666]

6 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Honestly I keep having to spell it out. Yes they'll maybe get £30m additional TV revenue, but as fans we 'demand' we continue to improve and get the players in. The £30m will barely pay for 1 player for the standard we want. The increase in ticket revenue pays for 30 members of staff as outlined by another poster. Business is about multiple revenue streams to enable it to get to where it wants to get to. If Top was taking £100s of millions away as profit then I'd say yes that's not right. But he isn't! Why shouldn't the club charge their customers in line with other clubs and inflation? I repeat they are not a charity.

I'm going to have to make some sacrifices too, it's life. All you've done is complain, have you once stopped to think what sacrifices you'll be willing to make? One less pint, one less meal deal etc a month? It's give and take 

Sorry, but what player can you buy for less than £1 million? And pay their wages?

[KrefelderFox666]

7 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Honestly I keep having to spell it out. Yes they'll maybe get £30m additional TV revenue, but as fans we 'demand' we continue to improve and get the players in. The £30m will barely pay for 1 player for the standard we want. The increase in ticket revenue pays for 30 members of staff as outlined by another poster. Business is about multiple revenue streams to enable it to get to where it wants to get to. If Top was taking £100s of millions away as profit then I'd say yes that's not right. But he isn't! Why shouldn't the club charge their customers in line with other clubs and inflation? I repeat they are not a charity.

I'm going to have to make some sacrifices too, it's life. All you've done is complain, have you once stopped to think what sacrifices you'll be willing to make? One less pint, one less meal deal etc a month? It's give and take 

Also, I would much rather be going to a match with likeminded fans at affordable prices (for everyone) than pay £50 a match in a library to watch us challenge for Top 4.

 

It feels much better spending a bit less on a good group of players and focussing on youth development than blowing £millions on players. It's just lazy to get more money from fans but not change the fundamentals of how a club is run efficiently. We are certainly not the worst run club by any means but there is still a lot of room for further improvements if the time and effort is put in.

[hejammy]

3 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

Sorry, but what player can you buy for less than £1 million? And pay their wages?

I didn't say player, I said staff.