Wymsey Posted 12 July 2022 Share Posted 12 July 2022 Don't think he has tried his hardest in recent times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 12 July 2022 Share Posted 12 July 2022 2 hours ago, Costock_Fox said: Even if said replacement who we pay £20m for sells for couple that? Yes... because if the new player sells for £40m, that's only £20m profit. Rather than lose Soyuncu for free, sign him up to a longer contract and flog him for £20m at some point and it's pretty much the same outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLC86 Posted 12 July 2022 Share Posted 12 July 2022 Just now, Babylon said: Yes... because if the new player sells for £40m, that's only £20m profit. Rather than lose Soyuncu for free, sign him up to a longer contract and flog him for £20m at some point and it's pretty much the same outcome. Maybe if it’s played out on paper in an idealistic way but for me it makes perfect sense to move Cags on if we are to compete as we have done. I suspect the club think he is a liability waiting to happen and could result in yet another huge write off so won’t budge on what he wants. We really need to try to get back to plucking some gems out who will increase in value. Once Fofana and Maddison have gone we really dont have many players that will bring in the sort of cash needed to keep rebuilding and not be willing to write off £20m on someone we can see is a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 12 July 2022 Share Posted 12 July 2022 4 hours ago, Babylon said: We've tried to renew them, I think people need to get used to players running contracts down as it's going to happen more and more often. Premier league teams ask ludicrous sums for their players, look at what people value our players at, seemingly based on Maguire and not much else. The prices they talk about are bonkers, few clubs will pay that money and we as a club have probably been guilty of it also. The more that happens, the more players are just not going to sign and run down contracts to gain the power back from clubs asking silly money. It won't just be us stung by it. this is why getting justin, fofana and ricardo when injured/ soon after was a bit of a master stroke by the club. the fofana deal is the best move the club has made in a very long time 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 12 July 2022 Share Posted 12 July 2022 8 hours ago, Costock_Fox said: Some are beyond help. It wont make things worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enmac Posted 12 July 2022 Share Posted 12 July 2022 36 M on Transfermarkt. Must be worth 20 M, surely, with a year left? https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/caglar-soyuncu/profil/spieler/320141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 5 minutes ago, LFox99 said: Sadly this is a shit source. And no way do we get 30m for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 Shame it is a crap source But IF true, an opening bid of €30m? There would be no further bids needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 8 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Shame it is a crap source But IF true, an opening bid of €30m? There would be no further bids needed The source is reporting positive news for us, surely that automatically makes it a good source, right? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 Thinking selling Cag’s is a good thing, who would have thought that a short while ago? Strange times. I have concerns that the house of cards is slowly toppling and it’s ALL Brendan’s fault. Well, some of it, the mad midget cockwomble. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 Tell them their final offer can be £20m and we'll still accept 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderbyFox Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 A much more realistic bid from an Italian club would be a season long loan with a mandatory fee of 6m to be paid over the next 5-10 years 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 50 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said: A much more realistic bid from an Italian club would be a season long loan with a mandatory fee of 6m to be paid over the next 5-10 years To be paid by us, most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaspa Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Tell them their final offer can be £20m and we'll still accept 😂 Then they'll offer £8.5m with 1.5 in Champions League winning bonus. This is an Italian club we're talking about; when you want to buy - "oh no sorry, £15m more please he is world class potential and good boy", when you want to sell "but you do not want this player, I know we like him alot but here is £5m plus a bag of tomatoes, you must accept". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bptiger Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 I know cags has coped a lot of crap , but are we missing the real problem , BEEN Rodgers , players don’t preform, and all of a sudden there left out never to be seen again , Pratt , cags , mendy , under , nacho , it’s almost like Rodgers can’t or won’t try and fix the problem, his idea just sit them on the bench and that’s it . Just my take . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The whole world smiles Posted 13 July 2022 Share Posted 13 July 2022 2 minutes ago, Bptiger said: I know cags has coped a lot of crap , but are we missing the real problem , BEEN Rodgers , players don’t preform, and all of a sudden there left out never to be seen again , Pratt , cags , mendy , under , nacho , it’s almost like Rodgers can’t or won’t try and fix the problem, his idea just sit them on the bench and that’s it . Just my take . The trouble is when you've got a squad of decent players then someone isn't going to be in the team. Would you honestly pick Mendy over ndidi in a Premier league match? Would you pick Nacho over vardy or maddison? I know everything has to be Rodgers witch hunt but Ultimately every manager with a good squad is going to struggle to keep everyone happy and in from even absolutely elite managers like Klopp and Pep are loosing top talent to their rivals this summer (mane, Sterling, ake) it's the price you pay for assembling a good squad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJams Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 5 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said: Sadly this is a shit source. And no way do we get 30m for him. Must have a ballon d'or clause in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 (edited) If he wants to stay here good......but we could do an exchange with Fenerbahce for their incredible Korean CB Kim Min-Rae, if Cags wants to play in Turkey Spurs and Napoli very interested signing him (the Korean) Edited 18 July 2022 by CrispinLA in Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobyfox Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 If CS can rekindle his form when he first replaced Maguire then he’s easily worth £20m. If it’s last season’s Caglar - not so much. I’d be worried about letting him go unless we are quite advanced in terms of identifying a replacement. We’d be an injury of two away from starting with Amartey and Vestergaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_77 Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 On 13/07/2022 at 16:24, LFox99 said: Someone should make an Ekrem Konur tweet generator. It’ll probably be right just as much as he is. 🚨Real Madrid are planning to make a €76m opening bid for Turkish midfielder Zeki Çelik. 🇹🇷 #LOSC #HalaMadrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merchant_Banker Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 54 minutes ago, The_77 said: Someone should make an Ekrem Konur tweet generator. Why? He already has, you don't think he puts any thought or investigation into these tweets do you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 bremer going to juve could be great for us 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 2 hours ago, Lambert09 said: bremer going to juve could be great for us If inter offered us that for cags then I would take it. Though I feel there is a great player in cags and we havent helped him refund his form. I had high hopes for him and I hope he goes on to do very well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Fresh Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 Just now, foxinsocks said: If inter offered us that for cags then I would take it. Though I feel there is a great player in cags and we havent helped him refund his form. I had high hopes for him and I hope he goes on to do very well. Not our problem he didn't keep his receipt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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