Arsenal 2-0 LCFC - Post Match Thread

[LaCiudad]

Just now, SecretPro said:

Imagine being so inept at reading communication that you come up with that!

This

[MPH]

Just now, mozartfox said:

So why did take so long then?

 

I think they were trying to see if he denied a goalscoring opportunity for a red..

[sdb]

We should be giving arsenal more of a game than that. We're just too nice to play against. Pretty enough, generally well organised, but no threat and an absolute banker for conceding a set piece. No sign of any long term changes soon.

[StevieH]

I am fed up with these penalty decisions. You use your arms to balance. You now have players in the box running around like penguins with arms by their side. Is that a natural position? It's ridiculous.

[SecretPro]

Just now, LaCiudad said:

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Oh, no answer to my question then, as suspected. 

[LaCiudad]

Just now, SecretPro said:

Oh, no answer to my question then, as suspected. 

Then why ask.

[CosbehFox]

1 minute ago, LaCiudad said:

It wasn't obvious.

 

If took 3 minutes to decide.

 

That's not obvious.

Two points. 
 

The definition is the referee makes a ‘clear and obvious error’. That’s purposely subjective. He missed the handball, there he has made a clear and obvious error. There’s a creep that people think the offence has to be clear and obvious. 
 

I said the var assistant might have taken that time because he felt the handball was obvious but red card wasn’t so 

[SecretPro]

Just now, LaCiudad said:

Then why ask.

Because I thought you might be able to back up your assertions, obviously I was wrong. 

[ronnup]

Not a surprise but shows how far we've fallen this year 

[iancognito]

Ramsdale vs Leicester this season

[goody2028]

Find it hard to slate the players after that. However, it was disappointing we got nothing out of it as it was almost there for the taking. They were nothing special let’s be honest and with better defending and a decent outlet we might have offered something. Ah well now that’s the way it goes and hopefully destroy Brentford next week: 

[Tuna]

We barely laid a glove on them, so disappointing that it was two very poor goals to concede that won it for them.

 

Brendan I think rightly focused on the Rennes match and it was always going to be difficult against Arsenal at The Emirates, they are a good team and in form.

[daddylonglegs]

As someone else has just eluded to, Ramsdale has kept them in both games against us this year. 
 

A lot of people cannot look past their love / hate for Rodgers but it’s getting better in the last 5 games. Not much better, but it’s definitely improving.

 

Thursday (and hopefully every European game thereafter) is absolute huge for Brendan. He’ll have a fresh Youri & maybe Fofana to call on, so hopefully we’ll get it done. 
 

[justfoxes]

Managed to catch the first half thought we played well apart from defending the party goal we’ve seemed to go backwards defending set pieces, caught a bit of the second half on drive to work Matt Piper sounded frustrated with our display and the display of the ref, VAR had been for clear and obvious decisions how can having to autopsy for 5min be clear and obvious ?

Dreadful result for us but really think Brendan should be trying out 2 up top DAKA and Nacho as before Nacho and vardy were amazing when played together, has Brendan been doing his homework on the opposition sometimes it doesn’t look like it !

[LaCiudad]

6 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Two points. 
 

The definition is the referee makes a ‘clear and obvious error’. That’s purposely subjective. He missed the handball, there he has made a clear and obvious error. There’s a creep that people think the offence has to be clear and obvious. 
 

I said the var assistant might have taken that time because he felt the handball was obvious but red card wasn’t so 

1. Given the handball had to be viewed numerous times from different angles during 3 minutes it wasn't a clear or obvious error to have missed it.

 

2. There was no possibility of a red card because the ball didn't change trajectory and was still cleared off the line.

[North Leeds Fox]

Poor from us today but I would have preferred us to make changes and prioritising the rennes match. Good for madders, Justin and mendy to get minutes in their legs. Got into a couple of good positions but just couldn't find the final pass. Shame also to concede another from a corner too. 

[SecretPro]

Just now, daddylonglegs said:

As someone else has just eluded to, Ramsdale has kept them in both games against us this year. 
 

A lot of people cannot look past their love / hate for Rodgers but it’s getting better in the last 5 games. Not much better, but it’s definitely improving.

 

Thursday (and hopefully every European game thereafter) is absolute huge for Brendan. He’ll have a fresh Youri & maybe Fofana to call on, so hopefully we’ll get it done. 
 

The one Ramsdale save that kept out one of our only efforts on goal was a pretty standard save, nothing special, I don't know why anybody thinks otherwise - he didn't even have to reach for it all that much, just a text book reaction save to a shot that was quite close to him. If we had peppered the goal and come away with that result then I'd concede Ramsdale had the better of us, but going forward today was about as stale as I've seen it this season.

[Clever Fox]

Our mindset was never on a result today. I'm very disappointed I expected better from Brendan than that. 

Why isn't there one of our defensive CBs on the front post.

It's the same mistake every week.

Madison was like a headless chicken today.

Still nobody to lead the line when Vardy doesn't play.

 

[Tielemans63]

12 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

what? Are you being serious? It very clearly hits his hand. He reaches out for the ball and you see the ball bounce off his hand?

 

 

and the 1st sentence is just sours grapes with no evidence to back it up. cags is a melt who reached for the ball and gave a penalty away. It’s our own fault. End of.

You can say that conclusively? I can't and I've looked back and VAR couldn't either. 2 and a half minutes and 26 replays. If he's looking for a clear and obvious error then surely it doesn't take 26 replays to decide if it was 'clear' and or 'obvious'. Taylor didn't think it was in real time so no, it doesn't 'very clearly' hit his hand. 

[CosbehFox]

Just now, LaCiudad said:

1. Given the handball had to be viewed numerous times from different angles during 3 minutes it wasn't a clear or obvious error to have missed it.

 

2. There was no possibility of a red card because the ball didn't change trajectory and was still cleared off the line.

The handball may have been viewed from numerous angles because the VAR had to consider if it was deliberate handball and therefore not a genuine play at the ball.
 

That supersedes any denial of goalscoring opportunity decision. It would also be an argument to say the contact with the hand significantly slowed the ball that Thomas could clear off the line. 
 

That we are here debating the in’s and out’s of whether it’s a red card or not shows exactly why the time was taken on the decision 

[floz]

Deserved nothing but still very irritated. The Arsenal players exaggerated at every opportunity with Gabriel trying to get Iheanacho sent off like he'd given him a right hook being the worst example. 

 

VAR took 50 replays to decide it was a pen but didn't have one look at Saka being 3 yards in the penalty area when the pen was taken.

 

The commentary and analysis was embarrassingly one-sided. They should have a 'silent' option for none top six fans. 

 

I watched virtually every game Smith played for us but dislike him beyond belief for his Arsenal bias. 

 

 

[iancognito]

I mean Sky were going on about the set pieces as if the last 5 games haven't happened, where I think we haven't conceded from a set piece and had 3 clean sheets on the bounce. Never mind Thomas losing Partey, if Ricardo stays on the line (which for me is a massive thing defending corners anyway) he stops that ball going in.

Also ridiculous to hear the nearly-senile Tyler and the nearly-impartial ex-Gooner Smith finding it ridiculous that we should prioritise Europe because "it's not the Champions League and this IS the Premier League after all". Two people with no grasp on the realities of clubs outside their beloved Super League 6.

[Mickyblueeyes]

Pretty poor performance. When we got the ball moving, we attacked well but the choices were questionable. Conceded 2 sloppy goals. Poor season. 

[East Langton Fox]

34 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

Shows we are prioritising the Conference League which is the correct decision. Thought we were alright tbh though offered little going forward.

I thought we were weak as puppy’s p##s as my American colleague would say.

[Clever Fox]

Our mindset was never on a result today. I'm very disappointed I expected better from Brendan than that. 

Why isn't there one of our defensive CBs on the front post.

It's the same mistake every week.

Madison was like a headless chicken today.

Still nobody to lead the line when Vardy doesn't play.