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Boubakary Soumare

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iancognito

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He's neat & tidy with the ball, doesn't get knocked off it but he's not done anything special yet. I think most games he's just 6-7/10. From everything I'd heard I was expecting threaded passes & silky link play. I don't see him being an better than Praet and only a marginal improvement on Mendy. I'm sure he'll grow into it but it's an unforgiving league if you don't make an impression. You either turn it on and be Tielemans or be average and be the next Gokhan Inler.

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Tanya

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I agree with the sentiment expressed here by most posters. He needs a spell out of the side as soon as it's feasible. I am rewatching the match now and that moment where the Watford player hits the post from distance you can see Soumare in the background just ambling slowly towards him. No urgency in his play whatsoever and very little awareness

 

Obviously we all want him to come good and it's not easy playing in a new league but his work rate is poor. 

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BenTheFox

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4 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Not writing him off yet but I'm far from convinced. I think he's a big part of why we look so bad defensively.

He actually reminds me of Pogba in a way. I feel that all the physical and technical attributes are there but his lack of positional sense and discipline is causing us some problems. 

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Dan LCFC

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2 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

He actually reminds me of Pogba in a way. I feel that all the physical and technical attributes are there but his lack of positional sense and discipline is causing us some problems. 

Yeah I kind of see it but not quite the same quality unfortunately lol he's a neat enough player, nice feet, but I'm a bit concerned by how easily we seem to get walked through with him in the side. Both Watford & Legia have sliced through our midfield.

 

Ndidi's not had a great season but I feel like he's having to do two jobs defensively.

 

He's young and he's in a new league but I was hoping he'd be a bit better. Seen comments about Praet in this thread but I really don't see how Praet was worse. Praet was about the same level 2 years into being here as he was 3 months into it.

 

Soumare needs to get better.

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sacreblueits442

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14 hours ago, iancognito said:

He's neat & tidy with the ball, doesn't get knocked off it but he's not done anything special yet. I think most games he's just 6-7/10. From everything I'd heard I was expecting threaded passes & silky link play. I don't see him being an better than Praet and only a marginal improvement on Mendy. I'm sure he'll grow into it but it's an unforgiving league if you don't make an impression. You either turn it on and be Tielemans or be average and be the next Gokhan Inler.

....what you are looking for is not what he does!!!

  He can pick a pass, great stamina, strong on the ball, excellent ball skills and a box to box "conductor".

  He will not be doing what Youri does nor will he be doing what Wilf does, it is hard to judge a player, when your expectation is nowhere near what he does.

 

Hope this helps.

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Number 6

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Not sure what to make of him so far. Powerful guy and protects possession well when he has the ball, with ability to ride challenges. I'm just not sure what his role is in this side or what he offers yet. If he is a bit of a Youri/Ndidi hybrid then he will always look inferior to both in at least one aspect as their roles are more specialist. I don't think our style plays to his strengths at all. However, he is just 22 and new to the league. It will take time to settle and I think Rodgers is managing this with both Soumare and Daka pretty well so far.

 

Edit: actually given he is potentially a hybrid of our two CMs, I wouldn't mind seeing him in a 4-1-4-1 type set up against weaker opposition which would allow us to get a more attack-minded midfield in play.

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1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....what you are looking for is not what he does!!!

  He can pick a pass, great stamina, strong on the ball, excellent ball skills and a box to box "conductor".

  He will not be doing what Youri does nor will he be doing what Wilf does, it is hard to judge a player, when your expectation is nowhere near what he does.

 

Hope this helps.

Exactement. :thumbup:

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2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....what you are looking for is not what he does!!!

  He can pick a pass, great stamina, strong on the ball, excellent ball skills and a box to box "conductor".

  He will not be doing what Youri does nor will he be doing what Wilf does, it is hard to judge a player, when your expectation is nowhere near what he does.

 

Hope this helps.

Interesting seeing the FM style marks out of 10 at the beginning. Overall a solid 7/10 or 8/10 in most things. Excluding finishing, three lower scores of 6/10 for anticipation, marking and concentration seem pretty fair. Given he's now in a quicker league just feels like things are passing him by a bit. Hopefully things he'll pick up with time. I know if I moved to France to do my job when I was 22 it would have taken me 6-12 months to fire on all cylinders!

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2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....what you are looking for is not what he does!!!

  He can pick a pass, great stamina, strong on the ball, excellent ball skills and a box to box "conductor".

  He will not be doing what Youri does nor will he be doing what Wilf does, it is hard to judge a player, when your expectation is nowhere near what he does.

 

Hope this helps.

Nail on head....Top Many posters looking for replacements ,or Team/individuals playing to 'their' expectations...

Soumare offers different qualified and like you mention offers different Skills to both Ndidi/Tielemans.

People incorrectly criticise Rodgers/ any manager when they replace new players for others. 

New & young introductions allows the manager to Tweek & improve on the Teams character & presentation...

Soumare is being given longer run, to help the Adjustment & get into team, & teamates routines, But to also see what other paths can be Opened up or tweeked.

 

This is what the amount & long Term injuries gave Rodgers difficulties into developing routine Into the side over long periods, clubs stars were simply not consistently available.

I believe Soumare & KDH, will give us a different dynamic, obviously depending how they Not only slot in,

but bring "their" own game & Development into the team.

Some Posters weirdly  criticised Rodgers for being stubborn & Not flexable, I for one believe he s shown the opposite...he s had ,like he should do,

tried different Operations and given various responsibilities...

Too Many posters to quick to renounce...Thomas/Justin/Ricardo/Castagna roles und Tweek of positions..!! I See KDH & Soumare developing around

different midfield roles...

 

 

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AjcW

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Quite surprised by some of the response to the start to his time here in this thread.


I've been quite impressed, especially given we are square pegging him! 

 

Hopefully when everyone is back fit and Brendan is back to 4141/4231 full time, we'll see the absolute best of him.

 

At the minute in the 4231 he's being asked to be the double of Wilf to mask our defensive frailty and he's doing his best to be fair!

 

Always said he's more Youri than Wilf and we will see that when he's allowed the freedom, absolutely love some of the passes he's picked out so far!

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Le Renard

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Re watched the Watford game and yes he did make an error or two, but no more than Castagne or Ndidi, I think he is sometimes caught out of position due to being told to play further up the pitch than he did with Lille.  He is probably playing the double pivot role and he is the one tasked to get into more advanced positions, I saw some really good stuff, but I would add that he tends to turn and pass back, like Mendy.  There were a couple of occasions where I thought he could of go on and drive forward like Sissoko did for Watford.  I think we need to be patient with Soumaré, he's a work in progress and maybe he's going to be in the mold of Sissoko, but with better technique.

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We're lacking dynamism in midfield currently. Soumare should provide more energy and drive than Tielemans, even if it's at the cost of some passing ability - but we're just not seeing it yet. I'd like to see KDH come in on Wednesday night.

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12 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Not writing him off yet but I'm far from convinced. I think he's a big part of why we look so bad defensively.

I’m with you, I’m yet to see him do anything Mendy couldn’t do, probably other than physicality. Shows the occasional flashy bit of footwork but other than that he doesn’t show much at all, other than acres of space for the opposition to run into. 
 

If you read about his time in France it’s largely the same criticism as he gets here, only they think he was lazy too, which he does show here from time to time as well. 
 

In a nutshell I’m not sold yet, we badly miss Youri. 

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16 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I’m with you, I’m yet to see him do anything Mendy couldn’t do, probably other than physicality. Shows the occasional flashy bit of footwork but other than that he doesn’t show much at all, other than acres of space for the opposition to run into. 
 

If you read about his time in France it’s largely the same criticism as he gets here, only they think he was lazy too, which he does show here from time to time as well. 
 

In a nutshell I’m not sold yet, we badly miss Youri. 

Really lazy, seem him sprint maybe 3 x. Few silly ste overs is all he sems to have. Much rather have Mendy or almost anyone else

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CosbehFox

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10 hours ago, Reg Vardy said:

And the pass for Vardy’s very first chance prior to taking the lead was sublime….

The pass which was far wider than Vardy wanted making the angle harder rather than curve the ball around the defender ? 
 

His strength is clearly when in transition as seen at Spartak. Physically perfect for the PL but it’s application and desire he’s gotta up. 

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Dan LCFC

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2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I’m with you, I’m yet to see him do anything Mendy couldn’t do, probably other than physicality. Shows the occasional flashy bit of footwork but other than that he doesn’t show much at all, other than acres of space for the opposition to run into. 
 

If you read about his time in France it’s largely the same criticism as he gets here, only they think he was lazy too, which he does show here from time to time as well. 
 

In a nutshell I’m not sold yet, we badly miss Youri. 

I think he's better than Mendy who I frankly don't rate what so ever, but Soumare I did think would be a bit better. He's a strange player. I'm still trying to figure out what he really is, what his role actually is.

 

He has shown glimpses. He was brilliant at Spartak Moscow but don't think he's hit the ground running at all, but like I've said a few times I think we've been pretty bad in general so it's hardly ideal for him.

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