Switzfox Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 He wants too much time on the ball and doesn't run around enough or quick enough. If he can address this he will be good for us, as technically he does look good and strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 Very frustrating player as he is totally unreliable. One minute he can accept a pass in a tight space and beautifully roll his way out of it....literally the next moment you can play the same ball and he's robbed and dropped us in the doo doo big time. Rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 Pretty appalling passer for this level, but I thought his positioning, physicality and ariel ability were much needed yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoken Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 (edited) Being his first, and a difficult season to adapt! i will write it off and really start judging him and his performances in 2022 after pre-season. Edited 29 December 2021 by Simoken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 1 minute ago, Simoken said: Being his first, and a difficult season to adapt! i will write it off and really start judging him and his performances in 2022 after pre-season. He can be thankful that he signed for us as some other clubs (Arsenal) fans would've destroyed him by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 His decision making and passing was woeful yesterday but he did improve in the second half. Seems so laid back when on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 Yes, he is still bedding in, but I honestly don’t see what he adds to the team. There was one really dynamic performance from him away to Spartak but nothing close to that in any other game since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacreblueits442 Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said: I think it's been said before. But we will see the logic in his signing next season. He's a bit off the pace currently and is still learning. But there is undoubted talent. Hopefully he can fully acclimatise and be boss next year ....he seems to grow into games, not on it at the start but looks to get up to speed later on!!! There are games where the pace has been relentless and he has got up to pace but the next game he is back to square one, not sure what is needed or how to link the backline with the forwards. A lot of posters were unsure what he was supposed to bring to the team, take a look at KDH and you will understand what a good acquisition he should be it was. The only problem is he is not bringing in what we need to the table. Edited 29 December 2021 by sacreblueits442 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 14 hours ago, moore_94 said: Not one of the standouts but I thought he had a decent game. In duels (ground or aerial) he will come out on top the majority of the time. 76% pass completion - 6th highest of 13 outfield players used 8 ground duels won, 3 lost - Most ground duels won in team 2 headed clearances 100% dribble completion (1/1) 100% tackle completion (1/1) 6 aerial duels won, 1 lost - Most aerial duels won in team 5 recoveries - 3rd most recoveries (behind only Wilf and KDH) Further proof that he's unbelievably harshly judged on here. What was hamzas pass completion? Hes alot better than people on here credit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: Further proof that he's unbelievably harshly judged on here. What was hamzas pass completion? Hes alot better than people on here credit him. Hamza actually had 85% pass completion haha, although he only attempted 13 passes in 56 minutes Soumare had the 2nd highest amount of passes completed and the 2nd highest amount of passes attempted - only KDH is ahead of him Lookman - 100% (12/12) Iheanacho - 89% (16/18) Choudhury - 85% (11/13) Amartey - 84% (26/31) Ndidi - 82% (31/38) Soumare - 75% (33/44) Tielemans - 75% (18/24) Castagne - 70% (23/33) Thomas - 70% (19/27) KDH - 69% (35/51) Kasper - 53% (17/32) Maddison - 63% (10/16) Albrighton - 63% (5/8) Vardy - 55% (6/11) Edited 29 December 2021 by moore_94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 He can't cope with the pace at the minute. The game just moves too quick for him. As a consequence his decision making is often poor and he loses the ball. He is very good in one v one duels and strong in the air. I think there is a good player in there but it will take lots of patience (as he will make errors on the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 14 minutes ago, moore_94 said: Hamza actually had 85% pass completion haha, although he only attempted 13 passes in 56 minutes Soumare had the 2nd highest amount of passes completed and the 2nd highest amount of passes attempted - only KDH is ahead of him Lookman - 100% (12/12) Iheanacho - 89% (16/18) Choudhury - 85% (11/13) Amartey - 84% (26/31) Ndidi - 82% (31/38) Soumare - 75% (33/44) Tielemans - 75% (18/24) Castagne - 70% (23/33) Thomas - 70% (19/27) KDH - 69% (35/51) Kasper - 53% (17/32) Maddison - 63% (10/16) Albrighton - 63% (5/8) Vardy - 55% (6/11) Interestingly higher than players you wouldn't have expected him to be. Do people just dislike him because he looks calm? Because it's really weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 The problem with his misplaced passes is that they tend to be within 35 yards of our goal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: The problem with his misplaced passes is that they tend to be within 35 yards of our goal! Not as close as Kasper’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 He definitely put the effort in but I was never comfortable when he had the ball in our half. 2 horror passes that could have easily led to goals. Needs to grow in composure. It’s not that he can’t make the passes, just that he’s been panicked when he realizes he doesn’t have time. I know we’d all jeer but I genuinely wouldn’t mind if our guys would hoof it in those moments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 I think people are particularly harsh on soumare because despite his age he is supposed to be a proven player, he has champions league experience and won the league in France against a 1 billion pound PSG squad. If you compare him to Fofana for example who had only around 20 games in ligue 1 for a relegation threatened side, Soumare should seemingly be on a completely different level to him in terms of composure and quality, yet it's the other way around. Hopefully it's just a settling in phase as i personally had very high hopes for the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 8 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said: Interestingly higher than players you wouldn't have expected him to be. Do people just dislike him because he looks calm? Because it's really weird. I don't dislike him at all and will give him more than 6 months to prove himself. Still willing to give him time to prove himself and settle down. There's plenty of players at bigger clubs that didn't settle in their first season at a new club/higher level (or both). Then the following season they've adapted and everyone sees how good they are. The one thing I didn't like yesterday, however, is that at times in the first half he looked a bit languid and laboured when passing it - notably giving the ball away in our own half and then putting repeated pressure on the defence again. He wasn't the only one - Amartey and Castagne I think were the 2 other culprits. However I did like that he didn't just give up - he dug in like the rest of the team and actually looked a bit calmer and composed when facing up to their pressure as the game nearly finished. He put a shift in and that's the minimum people can ask for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOnWheels Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 I think the only things he needs to work on is just the speed of the prem that’s all, it’s only really his passes being intercepted that’s an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnfox Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 He'll be fine. Not every foreign player comes into the premier league and hits the ground rrunning. Often it can take a full season. There's a quality player in there, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 Brendan did say this season was a bit soon for him and Daka, obviously Daka has been a pleasant surprise but Soumare has a few things to work out like what his role actually is as well as adapting to the league so it’s a big ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: Brendan did say this season was a bit soon for him and Daka, obviously Daka has been a pleasant surprise but Soumare has a few things to work out like what his role actually is as well as adapting to the league so it’s a big ask. A lot of system and line up changes wont be helping him settle either Started in a 3 with Youri and Wilf, then into a 2 with Youri, then into a 2 with Wilf, last night in a 3 with KDH and Hamza Each time he will be having to play a different role Once things get a bit better with squad availability and we are able to put out a line up consistently where he can be playing the same or similar role every game I am sure he will settle down Edited 29 December 2021 by moore_94 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorFox Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 Slow start but this guy will definitely be a top player for us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTY_FOX Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, StanSP said: I don't dislike him at all and will give him more than 6 months to prove himself. Still willing to give him time to prove himself and settle down. There's plenty of players at bigger clubs that didn't settle in their first season at a new club/higher level (or both). Then the following season they've adapted and everyone sees how good they are. The one thing I didn't like yesterday, however, is that at times in the first half he looked a bit languid and laboured when passing it - notably giving the ball away in our own half and then putting repeated pressure on the defence again. He wasn't the only one - Amartey and Castagne I think were the 2 other culprits. However I did like that he didn't just give up - he dug in like the rest of the team and actually looked a bit calmer and composed when facing up to their pressure as the game nearly finished. He put a shift in and that's the minimum people can ask for. Nicely put and I appreciate that. I'm not going to say he wasn't at fault for some of the passes because some were pretty bad. But there were a good few where it was played into him he was pressed by Henderson and/or one other and there was absolutley no movement around him to pop it off. I dont think it's a coincidence when we bought on lookman and (although he didn't have his best game) tielemans, soumare's passing improved. Edited 29 December 2021 by ARTY_FOX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 (edited) The trouble is that he seems to me to be a bit of a stroller. A bit like Inler was. I'm not sure how he will ever to adapt to the PL because I'm not sure he has the physical attributes. He has the strength but not the pace or the engine and I'm yet to discover what role he was actually signed for. He's the player we never knew we didn't need. Edited 29 December 2021 by murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 29 December 2021 Share Posted 29 December 2021 Would dispute he isn’t what we need, he has the strength to hold off players and retain the ball, and hopefully this part of his game will only come more to fore as he grows into his time at club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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