UniFox21 Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 18 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Couldn't disagree more if I tried. He'd walk in to almost any of the top 6 and prosper. He's absolutely got the talent to be in a big 6 side, but what I doubt is the mental aspects. Does he have the fight, something i personally think he lacks and that ability to graft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 We really need to insist a deal is done quickly. We're terrible at brinksmanship and generally come out it worst. I'd say to any club if you want him you've got till the 7th of July to agree a deal. We need players in quickly and we need guarantees of funds. I liked Newcastle saying they want a deal either done or they're moving on in a week. All this wasting everyones time for a few million quid is ridiculous when clubs are happy to spunk a few million a year on cheersleaders/"3rd choice keepers" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pliskin Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 Newcastle will end up signing him. They want to improve their stock, and they’re the one team who can afford to just pay the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copunk Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 The stick he gets feels quite unjust I won't lie 9/10 over the last couple of seasons he has been the difference maker for us, and overall he has been not only an outstanding footballer, but a very good professional for us, no doubt he's going to be missed Sadly by some he will be remembered for that penalty miss, but deep down if we are all honest that is a miniscule part of what went wrong last season Get good money for him and wish him all the best I think it will be Newcastle for him, but you can tell he would rather go down to the big smoke and get the spurs move 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 1 hour ago, foxinsocks said: Madders is not top 6. Anyone with top 6 ambition is wasting their time. Not sure if you go to games but if you do I can't fathom what you've said there at all. He walks into more or less any side in the world for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 2 minutes ago, Gerard said: Not sure if you go to games but if you do I can't fathom what you've said there at all. He walks into more or less any side in the world for me. Where are they all then? Hardly beating our door down to sign him are they? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 50 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Madders is not top 6. Anyone with top 6 ambition is wasting their time. So what happened the two seasons we finished 5th with him in the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 7 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: So what happened the two seasons we finished 5th with him in the side I'll tell you what happened. 2019/20 - not a single goal or assist after New Year's Day. Nothing. Zilch. 2020/21 - not a single goal or assist after February 21st. Nothing. Two-thirds ot the square root of Sweet Fanny Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: I'll tell you what happened. 2019/20 - not a single goal or assist after New Year's Day. Nothing. Zilch. 2020/21 - not a single goal or assist after February 21st. Nothing. Two-thirds ot the square root of Sweet Fanny Adams. I didn't realise the competition only ran for the second half of the season. Don't the league count the point from before Xmas Edited 21 June 2023 by coolhandfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 16 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: I'll tell you what happened. 2019/20 - not a single goal or assist after New Year's Day. Nothing. Zilch. 2020/21 - not a single goal or assist after February 21st. Nothing. Two-thirds ot the square root of Sweet Fanny Adams. he missed the last six games of 2020 with his hip injury It flared back up 21 feb 2021 at villa He played after 22 April but was not properly fit. He adjusted his running style in the close season to help him cope I know where you’re coming from re his input in the final third of the covid seasons when the pressure was on but that hip issue interfered with his output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 The toys are being thrown out of the pram (allegedly). We're pricing him out of a move (allegedly). https://the72.co.uk/2023/06/21/reporter-reveals-frustration-in-james-maddison-camp-as-leicester-city-price-tag-keeps-newcastle-united-and-tottenham-at-bay/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmt Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 10 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: The toys are being thrown out of the pram (allegedly). We're pricing him out of a move (allegedly). https://the72.co.uk/2023/06/21/reporter-reveals-frustration-in-james-maddison-camp-as-leicester-city-price-tag-keeps-newcastle-united-and-tottenham-at-bay/ Not sure it quite says that, just there is some frustration there. I can understand it but a deal will probs take a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Port Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 Ridiculous player, the flack from our fans really gets to me. Has given us so much, I won’t forget PSV away ever. Tried too hard if anything back end of this season. Noise regarding City sniffing about, Pep is a big admirer. I’m sure I saw something regarding them coming in for him this Jan ? I think one of pep’s staff wrote an article during the World Cup about how incredible he thinks he is. On his form earlier in the season he was the business. Hope he gets a bigger move than Spurs, him and Grealish at City would be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: Think you can question his mentality historically, but his talent is unquestionable and his mentality has noticeably changed since becoming a father it seems To easily pushed off the ball. Look how strong grealish is. Imo he needed to bulk up his upper body strength.... but he hasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 1 hour ago, Gerard said: Not sure if you go to games but if you do I can't fathom what you've said there at all. He walks into more or less any side in the world for me. Too light weight. He is one of the best players we've ever had... but I am used to seeing him on his arse waving his hands at the ref. Honestly, I dont see him starting for top top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Port Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: To easily pushed off the ball. Look how strong grealish is. Imo he needed to bulk up his upper body strength.... but he hasn't Bernardo Silva is a twig yet glides past players. Maddison turns out of positions he shouldn’t be able to due to how agile he is, being lean is key in maximising agility. Even Messi gets/ got bodied (Goretzka) sometimes it’s just part of the game Edited 21 June 2023 by Levi Port 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangecity23 Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 Plus, lack of physicality isn't such an issue when you are at a big 6 club, and the ref assist gets turned up to maximum. He'll win a lot more free kicks and penalties, especially with var getting out the special electron microscope they reserve to look for "contact" to give something to big 6 teams to avoid getting grief after a sky sports panel of ex big 6 players spends all half time and post game work themselves into a lather over how "hard done by" Man U/Liverpool/Spurs/Arsenal/Man City/Chelsea are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 1 hour ago, coolhandfox said: I didn't realise the competition only ran for the second half of the season. Don't the league count the point from before Xmas The league runs all season. Consistency is important; it's not only the games that Maddison plays well in. Maddison is often brilliant. Despite good spells in the season, i felt he didn't deliver after the World Cup. We aren't going to be able to keep him anyway. We need to get asmuch as we can for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 23 minutes ago, bmt said: Not sure it quite says that, just there is some frustration there. I can understand it but a deal will probs take a few weeks. I can understand the frustration too. Honestly I do. Must be terribly inconvenient not being in the Prem. #FreeMadderz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 13 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: To easily pushed off the ball. Look how strong grealish is. Imo he needed to bulk up his upper body strength.... but he hasn't Bernardo Silva says hold my beer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 41 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: The toys are being thrown out of the pram (allegedly). We're pricing him out of a move (allegedly). https://the72.co.uk/2023/06/21/reporter-reveals-frustration-in-james-maddison-camp-as-leicester-city-price-tag-keeps-newcastle-united-and-tottenham-at-bay/ Jordan getting caught out with his comparison to rice - West Ham have an optional year better to compare to mount where Man Utd have just offered £45m as a second bid. Mount is two years younger and Chelsea are still a PL club and don’t need the dosh like we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 (edited) Chances are they will sit it out until the season starts which will mean we will include him in the squad when we do not want to and then we will be more or less forced to come down. Its a buyers market we are now faced with. Edited 21 June 2023 by An Sionnach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 21 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 21 June 2023 Man Utd bidding 50m for Mount when we'd blatantly cave and sell them Maddison for that blows my mind. Objectively better player by almost every single metric other than being Southgate's pet. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 Chelsea want £65M for as well. Maddison is a much better and much more effective player than Mount. That's been proven over the last couple of years. Yes, we've been relegated, but we should be demanding £60M. There is enough interest in him for someone to pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 21 June 2023 Share Posted 21 June 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Man Utd bidding 50m for Mount when we'd blatantly cave and sell them Maddison for that blows my mind. Objectively better player by almost every single metric other than being Southgate's pet. Where does Maddison fit in at Man Utd though? He's not getting in their team ahead of Fernandes. Mount isn't as good a player as Maddison but he's probably that bit more versatile in that he can play as a wide attacker as well as an 8 or a 10, and it's that extra versatility that probably means they are more interested in Mount than Maddison. Edited 21 June 2023 by SouthStandUpperTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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