Maddison

[ClaphamFox]

9 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

I have to agree. We have gone from a club with a plan, executed with reasonable success, to a club floundering in every department. Injuries have been horrendous, recruitment has been pitiful, scouting seems to have broken from where we were, team has stuttered and our manager seems incapable of any critical self reflection at all.  He said we needed a team rebuild which could be seen as managing the coming seasons expectations early. We aren’t getting one, so if we stutter again it’s not his fault. 

“Miss Dietrich - curtain call is in ten minutes…”

[woznotwos]

6 minutes ago, ARM1968 said:

I have to agree. We have gone from a club with a plan, executed with reasonable success, to a club floundering in every department. Injuries have been horrendous, recruitment has been pitiful, scouting seems to have broken from where we were, team has stuttered and our manager seems incapable of any critical self reflection at all.  He said we needed a team rebuild which could be seen as managing the coming seasons expectations early. We aren’t getting one, so if we stutter again it’s not his fault. 

I get that the 'plan' never materialized this season(at least as of yet) but i cannot see where we are floundering in every department. With less games and the World Cup break we will be back to our pressing best. I think we will do better than last year with this squad. There is also a lot of talent to come through and we have a cracking training ground. The only thing i could criticize is poor handling of players contracts but that will be a lesson learned. As for Brendon's remarks i would have thought any manager would of took the same route he has that respects the owners. I get what you are saying though i am just trying to put a positive spin on things for my own sanity. Did it sound convincing? or is it coat fetching time?  

[Babylon]

46 minutes ago, fox in the sox said:

It is possible that the ‘refresh’ comment was used to get some players to up their game as we were struggling a bit at the time. Like Mourinho talking nonsense.

He pretty much admitted it was partially to do with that in his next interview. Which people seem to ignore. 

 

Plus, saying we have a good team sort of missing the point. Yes, we do have a decent squad IMO, barring a right winger it's more than good enough for a comfortable top half finish. 

 

But, I think he's likely to have had an eye on the future and several other factors. You do need to try and keep the squad fresh, see Fergie's ever evolving team where even the biggest names got sold. Then you have the contract situations, with players running down contracts and other contacts we're rightly allowing to run down. 

 

We could have a bit of a trouble on our hands next summer, and him wanting to shake it up a bit now, would have meant a bit less to do next summer. As it stands we're losing:

 

Soyuncu, Tielemans, Amartey, Perez, Vardy, Kasper, Evans, Mendy, Choudhury, Bertrand for nothing.

 

Then we're quite possibly going to have to decisions to make on Ndidi, Maddison, Iheanacho, Vestergard, Praet, Thomas and Albrighton. Who will all only have one year left on their contracts, and we'll have to sell some to fund replacing all the others leaving for nothing. 

 

Then you have to think about Barnes and Castagne who will have two years left and if you are looking to maximise profit, we might have to think about what to do there also. 

[Leicester Rule!]

Can’t see him leaving. He seems well settled in the team and the area with what appears to be a good bunch of mates (Barnes, Hamza, KDH etc). He’s also got one hell of a house which he loves. 

[The whole world smiles]

Oh look another thread has turned into a brendan whinge-a-thon. That's about 30 by my count. The season is 6 days away, time to get behind the manager and the lads. 

 

Up the city. 

 

Back on topic Maddison is going nowhere! 

[Lionator]

3 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Oh look another thread has turned into a brendan whinge-a-thon. That's about 30 by my count. The season is 6 days away, time to get behind the manager and the lads. 

 

Up the city. 

 

Back on topic Maddison is going nowhere! 

People really hate Brendan don’t they. I get he is a spin master and not to be trusted but his record at the club speaks for itself on the face of it. And yes that excludes the disappointment of not finishing in the top 4 twice. 

[Bluearmyfox28]

Madders has stated on multiple occasions he’s a family man. Last year he had his first child and his family live in Coventry… can’t see him being interested in a move up north, when he has everything around him where he is now.

[Reg Vardy]

We have bought,Kante,Drinkwater, Mahrez, Maguire, and developed Chilwell, all sold for circa £260m…so now Tielemans, Maddison,Fofana and add Barnes £200m plus….this is what we do…..don’t understand the majority of people om here….and it will be the club that sanction any sales, not Brendan or anyone else….

[Leeds Fox]

1 hour ago, woznotwos said:

I get that the 'plan' never materialized this season(at least as of yet) but i cannot see where we are floundering in every department. With less games and the World Cup break we will be back to our pressing best. I think we will do better than last year with this squad. There is also a lot of talent to come through and we have a cracking training ground. The only thing i could criticize is poor handling of players contracts but that will be a lesson learned. As for Brendon's remarks i would have thought any manager would of took the same route he has that respects the owners. I get what you are saying though i am just trying to put a positive spin on things for my own sanity. Did it sound convincing? or is it coat fetching time?  

I agree. I think our style of play over the past 2 seasons has been hugely dictated with who’s been available and the sheer amount of games we had. To press, play at the pace we did in BR’s first season, would’ve been a huge ask and could easily have resulted in further injuries. It was clear we wanted to do well in Europe and obtain a respectable league finish. To be competitive on all fronts required some pragmatism. 
 

In another view, which I’ve said before, I’d have no reason to be annoyed at the club for taking a year to consolidate the clubs finances. To finish mid-table, keep as much of our talent as possible, and go full force next summer with a better financial position. Not ideal for us fans, but maybe necessary for the long term stability of our football club. Those decisions come from way above Rodgers position and if they see fit, so be it. 
 

This isn’t a Rodgers apologist speaking, I don’t care who we have as manager, as long as we’re successful over a period of time. It’s a view taken without blue tinted specs on looking at a successful business model dictated by successful business people. 

[Bluearmyfox28]

38 minutes ago, Reg Vardy said:

We have bought,Kante,Drinkwater, Mahrez, Maguire, and developed Chilwell, all sold for circa £260m…so now Tielemans, Maddison,Fofana and add Barnes £200m plus….this is what we do…..don’t understand the majority of people om here….and it will be the club that sanction any sales, not Brendan or anyone else….

For me the concerning part is not the model the club follows as that can lead to success long term if invested properly.
 

My worry is the clubs lack of ability to replace these players.

[weller54]

24 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said:

For me the concerning part is not the model the club follows as that can lead to success long term if invested properly.
 

My worry is the clubs lack of ability to replace these players.

Vestergaard for Maguire was a fair replacement 😂

[urban.spaceman]

 

 

[Sublime_Coatsworth]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

 

 

Haha, double it you cheapskates and we can maybe start a conversation. Otherwise fruck off..

[UniFox21]

7 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

 

Notorious bullshitter

[TaggertvsWise]

15 hours ago, CrispinLA in Texas said:

I'll rather we sign no one than sell Maddison, Fofana, Barnes and Tielemans now.

 

In other news, water is wet.

[FoxOnWheels]

If we lose Maddison to Newcastle will be a shambles

[Old Fox]

If we want to stay in front of the toon we have two options ;

 

1. Refuse outright and dont deal with them 

2. raise the bar to a £100m level as they are competition and make them play - fleece them !

 

Under that we should not be the slightest bit interested - he’s a Top player with his prime in front of him !!

[Sir Shep]

The club need to come out and say he's not for sale if that's the case, quash this bullshite pronto. 

[TheFiveTime]

I'm really concerned that we are considering bids under 60 mil...if we go anywhere under that it would be a travesty. Read the times article today saying we would need more than 50, which is still massively under priced

[lcfcdamo]

If he goes anything below 65 million there will be massive uproar from fans and just wouldn't make sense we are normally good at getting a higher fee than what the actual player is worth so has to be 70 million plus if we did sell

[Lesta Legend]

1 minute ago, TheFiveTime said:

I'm really concerned that we are considering bids under 60 mil...if we go anywhere under that it would be a travesty. Read the times article today saying we would need more than 50, which is still massively under priced

Here’s a tip. Stop reading anything in the printed press and believing it’s true. 

[Fox85]

2 minutes ago, TheFiveTime said:

I'm really concerned that we are considering bids under 60 mil...if we go anywhere under that it would be a travesty. Read the times article today saying we would need more than 50, which is still massively under priced

Don't believe what you read in the papers.

 

LCFC wouldn't sell 1 of their key players for 60mill.

 

Litterally rejected 70m last season or the season before and he is much better now.

 

It would take 100m for talks to start.

[-sodapop]

Maddison is the face of our team at this point - all the Sky/BT graphics use him or Vardy to represent us. Don't see why he'd leave a successful team where he's the most important player and loved by the fans for a team that isn't competing on a significantly higher level (i.e. a regular CL side). I would be surprised if this happened, the only party it makes sense for is the buying club.

[Old Fox]

2 hours ago, Lionator said:

People really hate Brendan don’t they. I get he is a spin master and not to be trusted but his record at the club speaks for itself on the face of it. And yes that excludes the disappointment of not finishing in the top 4 twice. 

I think he is marmite as he has been at Liverpool and Celtic - his self opinionated clap trap is fine as we can all see it however he never takes accountability and at times he appears bigger than the club - he is a very good manager but not as good as he thinks or at the elite level imo - tactically poor, one dimensional and he has undoubtedly taken us forward but arguably with our best squad ever (not team like 16 but squad).

 

Personally it’s more about his lack of recognising we have ambitions and had won things before he arrived it’s a pity as he would be held in more regard if had a bit less arrogance.

 

 

[whoareyaaa]

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