Maddison

[Paninistickers]

9 minutes ago, TheFish said:

Isn't getting shot of Deadwood making room?

 

I've read multiple reports from multiple sources that say, quite clearly, that the story has legs. If there was no way you were selling, the story would already be over. There must be some signs of encouragement to keep Newcastle interested. Take Diaby for example, we were interested, we made a bid, they told us no and we moved on. Now, we're talking roughly the same figures, both players are highly regarded within and without their club so why did we move on so quickly from him and not from Maddison?

 

I'm not saying Newcastle are definitely going to get Maddison, or that anyone will. I'm just saying the deal isn't dead, yet.

The manager has been absolutely unequivocal that he will not be sold. Direct and recent quotes. As the previous poster said, he also mocked the bid.

 

You are pissing in the wind

[TheFish]

6 minutes ago, indierich06 said:

Tbh, I'm starting to think that if the money was right, they would accept. From what I can see the club have flat out rejected all bids so far - they aren't dishing out any ultimatums, but they're going to see if you're willing to get a lot closer to their valuation. It's not going to get over the line with these low-ball structured offers and I think Newcastle would be mad not to just pay what we're after, given the calibre of player you'd be getting.

Sets a precedent, doesn't it? We have to negotiate hard, otherwise we'll end up having to spend £80m on squad players. Same for you, you have to negotiate hard so people don't have your pants down.

[TheFish]

Just now, Paninistickers said:

The manager has been absolutely unequivocal that he will not be sold. Direct and recent quotes. As the previous poster said, he also mocked the bid.

 

You are pissing in the wind

Our managers have done that in the past too. Famously Pardew said, unequivocally, Carroll was not for sale.

[MadsEmil]

1 minute ago, TheFish said:

Our managers have done that in the past too. Famously Pardew said, unequivocally, Carroll was not for sale.

He's not joining your dump of a football club. Let it go

 

 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

5 minutes ago, TheFish said:

Our managers have done that in the past too. Famously Pardew said, unequivocally, Carroll was not for sale.

You can't spend more than 40m hence your bid being rejected. You won't be back for another.

 

Maddison is reported to be absolutely gutted he's not playing alongside Chris Wood.

 

Youre at the limit off ffp and it ain't changing anytime soon. In the meantime enjoy your stunning midfield of Shelvey and longstaff.

Edited 2 August 2022 by Chocolate Teapot

[4everfox]

17 minutes ago, TheFish said:

Isn't getting shot of Deadwood making room?

 

I've read multiple reports from multiple sources that say, quite clearly, that the story has legs. If there was no way you were selling, the story would already be over. There must be some signs of encouragement to keep Newcastle interested. Take Diaby for example, we were interested, we made a bid, they told us no and we moved on. Now, we're talking roughly the same figures, both players are highly regarded within and without their club so why did we move on so quickly from him and not from Maddison?

 

I'm not saying Newcastle are definitely going to get Maddison, or that anyone will. I'm just saying the deal isn't dead, yet.

Of course Newcastle would "like" to have Maddison in their team, every team in the Premier League would. But it's Newcastle we're talking about here 😂 

 

That's like Leicester trying to sign Mo Salah, not going to happen. 

[TheFish]

1 minute ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

You can't spend more than 40m hence your bid being rejected. You won't be back for another.

 

Maddison is reported to be absolutely gutted he's not playing alongside Chris Wood.

 

Youre at the limit off ffp and it ain't changing anytime soon. In the meantime enjoy your stunning midfield of Shelvey and longstaff.

What are you talking about? We could spend a hell of a lot more without falling foul of FFP. Ashley kept us on an even financial footing, which means we've a great deal of wriggle room. That room will get even wrigglier when the new sponsorship deals are ratified.

 

 

[Phenom]

Either offer up something in excess of 60 million plus or gtfo. 
 

 

[MadsEmil]

2 minutes ago, TheFish said:

What are you talking about? We could spend a hell of a lot more without falling foul of FFP. Ashley kept us on an even financial footing, which means we've a great deal of wriggle room. That room will get even wrigglier when the new sponsorship deals are ratified.

 

 

Then why are you not only bidding laughably shit numbers for one of the best players of last season but also want to stagger said laughably shit numbers into multiple payments?

[SecretPro]

6 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

You can't spend more than 40m hence your bid being rejected. You won't be back for another.

 

Maddison is reported to be absolutely gutted he's not playing alongside Chris Wood.

 

Your at the limit off ffp and it ain't changing anytime soon. In the meantime enjoy your stunning midfield of Shelvey and longstaff.

Absolutely Love that Newcastle think they are big-time.

 

Absolute jokers.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

2 minutes ago, TheFish said:

What are you talking about? We could spend a hell of a lot more without falling foul of FFP. Ashley kept us on an even financial footing, which means we've a great deal of wriggle room. That room will get even wrigglier when the new sponsorship deals are ratified.

 

 

Not this year mate. Hate to break it to you.

 

Ffp is getting tighter not looser. Eyes are very much on you as a football club too which means you won't be able to just make up sponsorship deals like the original plan. Why do you think Howe is so frustrated about the perception if you having money? Reality is you can spend just about as much as the rest of the middle tier clubs.

[Paninistickers]

9 minutes ago, TheFish said:

Our managers have done that in the past too. Famously Pardew said, unequivocally, Carroll was not for sale.

Jesus H. How many times do we have to spell this out? 

 

35m for Carroll was, at a guess, roughly 100m in today's money. This is how the transfer market works. If you want to buy a top quality player AND severely disable a rival in doing so then you are gonna have to pay. 

 

 just stick to buying Dwight gayles and Karl darlows, pet.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Just now, SecretPro said:

Absolutely Love that Newcastle think they are big-time.

 

Absolute jokers.

Theyve read one tweet and think they can spend loads ignoring the hoops they now to jump through. They're a strange bunch who are seemingly incapable of seeing reality. They've signed matt targets ffs - he can't even get in Villas reserves.

[Foxdiamond]

Just now, MadsEmil said:

Then why are you not only bidding laughably shit numbers for one of the best players of last season but also want to stagger said laughably shit numbers into multiple payments?

Of course we want to keep Maddison but all players have a price tipping point. 80m must be about right. Half this amount is insulting and is clearly a wind up.

[jmono84]

3 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Not this year mate. Hate to break it to you.

 

Ffp is getting tighter not looser. Eyes are very much on you as a football club too which means you won't be able to just make up sponsorship deals like the original plan. Why do you think Howe is so frustrated about the perception if you having money? Reality is you can spend just about as much as the rest of the middle tier clubs.

Newcastle are late to this party should have been taken over year and years ago like Man C. They’ll be spending massive money on good not top level players.

Edited 2 August 2022 by jmono84

[smudger63]

2 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

Absolutely Love that Newcastle think they are big-time.

 

Absolute jokers.

I did say after having a bit of contact with a few of their fans at the weekend, that they've gone all Billy big bollocks!

[Lesta Legend]

8 minutes ago, TheFish said:

What are you talking about? We could spend a hell of a lot more without falling foul of FFP. Ashley kept us on an even financial footing, which means we've a great deal of wriggle room. That room will get even wrigglier when the new sponsorship deals are ratified.

 

 

In the meantime you can’t magic up sponsorship deals and so your board are embarrassingly trying to buy elite players on the cheap paid over many years. So therefore all of this is moot. 
 

Rome wasn’t built in a day and your owners cannot spend like Man City and Chelsea did due to FFP (unless there is some legal huge sponsorship imminent) therefore the way you’ll get players like Maddison is by recruiting well before the players become established elite premiership players. 

Edited 2 August 2022 by Lesta Legend

[StanSP]

It's ironic that the Newcastle poster says the 'story has legs' considering Rodgers' comment about the fee offered after the Sevilla game

 

[TheFish]

7 minutes ago, MadsEmil said:

Then why are you not only bidding laughably shit numbers for one of the best players of last season but also want to stagger said laughably shit numbers into multiple payments?

Because just because you can afford to spend a lot doesn't mean it's a good idea to do that. Like you could buy a Mars Bar for £50 if you really want to. Also, spreading the cost is just good business. Most clubs do business that way, you lot still owe us £8m for Perez for example.

[4everfox]

4 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

Absolutely Love that Newcastle think they are big-time.

 

Absolute jokers.

They think people will actually take them seriously before they earn it by improving their embarrassing trophy cabinet. 

[Sharpe's Fox]

First teamers who we are willing to sell: Tielemans, Schmeichel, Soyuncu.

 

First teamers we aren't willing to sell: Maddison, Barnes, Fofana.

 

It's simple.

[Bordersfox]

4 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

I did say after having a bit of contact with a few of their fans at the weekend, that they've gone all Billy big bollocks!

Shame that their owners seem to have gone all Timmy tiny testicles with their preposterously low bids. 

 

🤡

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Just now, TheFish said:

You lot still owe us £8m for Perez for example.

In bonuses he's not going to achieve because he's not going to play much 👍

[TheFish]

5 minutes ago, Lesta Legend said:

In the meantime you can’t magic up sponsorship deals and so your board are embarrassingly trying to buy elite players on the cheap paid over many years. So therefore all of this is moot. 
 

Rome wasn’t built in a day and your owners cannot spend like Man City and Chelsea did due to FFP (unless there is some legal huge sponsorship imminent) therefore the way you’ll get players like Maddison is by recruiting well before the players become established elite premiership players. 

We're doing that (Bruno), but there's a reason why Newcastle's owners think they can find a compromise for Maddison and with Eales and Ashworth in charge, it's neither naivety or stupidity.

[JimJams]

Dharmesh Sheth:

"Brendan Rodgers has made clear that he is not a player he wants to sell. But he did say it is not his place to put a valuation on him. Rodgers said the £40m might just cover three-quarters of his left leg!

"That's how much Leicester value Maddison, at around £60m".