ozleicester Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 24 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Don't laugh and I didn't like her, but the country needs another Thatcher in at the moment. the only thing worse than Boris...evil bitch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 4 minutes ago, Captain... said: What pressure would the new leader be under? None from his own party, they have a huge majority and know they have tanked in the polls. Any pressure from the opposition would be dismissed as politicking. Unless the new leader surges in the polls instantly they would be mad to call a snap election. They will just spend the next 2 years arse licking the electorate in the hope of staying in power. I was thinking pressure from the press and the public. Guess we havent been in this position in a while as Tories have always been ahead in the polls in each leadership change, last time we've had a new leader when polls have fallen for those in charge was when Brown was in charge I guess he lasted 2-3 years. So on reflection unfortunately you might have a point.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 17 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Sorry, my taxi driver this morning said he feels sorry for Boris and was being genuine, so clearly there are some out there who have lost their mind... it was a long journey. Infairness on a genuine human level, I do have a bit of sympathy for him on how bad this genuinely has been, despite me very much enjoying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 7 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 7 July 2022 If I hear "he got the big calls right during the pandemic" ONE MORE ****ING TIME 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nod.E Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 46 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Best prime minister... Ever? Stabbed in the back by professional jealousy, sad! Best at what? Alienating MPs? Inciting a culture of abuse? Ruining our economy? Mishandling a pandemic? Demonstrating how not to wear a tie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 2 minutes ago, pmcla26 said: Especially given the fact that he didn't. It's such an easy point to win for Labour but Starmer rarely brings it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 They’re all the same corrupt liars 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 19 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Who are 'the socialists'? Do you just mean people you don't agree with? No, Labour specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 After all this mayhem, surely the Tories won't allow Bozo to remain caretaker leader/PM until a new leader is elected, which will probably take until September? Would be the first known example of someone being simultaneously a loose cannon and a lame duck - and a self-focused narcissist at that....at a time when there are big decisions to take over cost of living, potentially events in Ukraine etc. Mind you, whoever is interim PM will face that: e.g. could be Raab, as Deputy PM, dealing with those issues. Plus, whoever is PM for the next 2 months will have to assemble a cabinet. But who? Reappoint those who've just resigned, appoint new ministers, some of whom are candidates for PM? Hard to see how calm and unity is established among the Tory MPs. There'll be vitriol between those who stayed loyal to Bozo and those who brought him down, not to mention all the political disagreements between Thatcherite tax-cutters and populists and/or One Nation types wanting to do more to alleviate the cost of living crisis.....all whipped up to fever pitch by the personal rivalries and betrayals of an ongoing leadership election.... Meanwhile, we could presumably hear from Durham Police about the Starmer investigation some time soon.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 9 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: If I hear "he got the big calls right during the pandemic" ONE MORE ****ING TIME Yeah it's pretty funny, pretty much everyone on either fence thought he did a shocking job, saying that I will give him a little credit on not caving in for the 4th lockdown they wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 Watching Michael Heseltine on Sky News, being interviewed by Kay Burley, he's telling it like it actually is - Brexit and its initiators and fulfillers/implementors have proved disastrous. He also cites Starmer as foolish for coming out with the statement he did a few days ago - wrong-footing himself over staying out of Europe. If they weren't 'past it' Heseltine or Clarke would bring some sense back to the Tory Party-in-government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 Just now, ozleicester said: the only thing worse than Boris...evil bitch Granted, i thought the same when she stole my milk when i was at school and cost a lot of my mates their jobs but i'm not on about that, she had a strong character and led the country on moral principles, which is what the country needs right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 28 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Does Michael Gove get his job back then ? Sacked by the bloke who is quitting hours later (well not leaving till the Autumn) Heard a lovely comment by a Been newscaster being interviewed on ITV. To paraphrase, 'Gove is like the good friend who goes to Johnson with a bottle of whisky and a revolver. Johnson drinks the whisky but turn the revolver on Gove'. Magic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 Honestly, he gives them jobs and looks after them and this is how he is treated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Horse's Mouth Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 5 minutes ago, gerblod said: Watching Michael Heseltine on Sky News, being interviewed by Kay Burley, he's telling it like it actually is - Brexit and its initiators and fulfillers/implementors have proved disastrous. He also cites Starmer as foolish for coming out with the statement he did a few days ago - wrong-footing himself over staying out of Europe. If they weren't 'past it' Heseltine or Clarke would bring some sense back to the Tory Party-in-government. Starmer was right too, with how unstable this country is at the minute, to bring a potential bid to be back in the EU will only cause further division 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 9 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: No, Labour specifically. I guess that makes the Conservative Party fascists then eh? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 29 minutes ago, Nalis said: There will be too much pressure on a new leader not to call a GE within 6-9 months of being leader so maybe we're looking at winter or spring 2023. I hope not. Though it probably depends on who wins the leadership contest. Personally I’m hoping for someone who isn’t a populist has integrity and is Conservative not Consocialist, I accept It’s probably a big ask. But with a fair wind it could happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 What's the likelihood that any of the 40+ mps that resigned in past 24-48hrs get a job back under a new PM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 Just now, StanSP said: What's the likelihood that any of the 40+ mps that resigned in past 24-48hrs get a job back under a new PM? Think Javid & Gove potentially could become back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes1988 Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 1 minute ago, Fazzer 7 said: I hope not. Though it probably depends on who wins the leadership contest. Personally I’m hoping for someone who isn’t a populist has integrity and is Conservative not Consocialist, I accept It’s probably a big ask. But with a fair wind it could happen. Jesus this has been consocialists. Food banks and non existent wage growth for 12 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoboFox Posted 7 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 7 July 2022 15 minutes ago, Bert said: They’re all the same corrupt liars I feel sorry for people who genuinely think this. This is the legacy of Johnson and his regime. They have single handedly debased both politics and trust in politics. Anything that makes people dismiss politicians as "they're all the same" is hugely damaging to democracy. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 Just now, RoboFox said: I feel sorry for people who genuinely think this. This is the legacy of Johnson and his regime. They have single handedly debased both politics and trust in politics. Anything that makes people dismiss politicians as "they're all the same" is hugely damaging to democracy. This isn't just Johnson though, Cameron's finances, Blair's warcrimes, this is indicative of our political class, we need a reset across the board 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gerblod Posted 7 July 2022 Share Posted 7 July 2022 3 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Starmer was right too, with how unstable this country is at the minute, to bring a potential bid to be back in the EU will only cause further division That's absolutely true. I believe, at this point, the voting system needs to be changed to PR. That hands over a lot more responsibility to the actual decision makers, the voters. They cannot then say it's not their doing when this kind of downfall happens. We need considered government - where policy is discussed seriously by all parties and decided on its merits rather than its ideology. Consensus is essential in a country which has hitherto been divided by lies and propaganda. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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