Popular Post Voll Blau Posted 8 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 8 July 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: Starmer cleared by Durham Police. Stick that up your pipe Nadine and co Always weird how much vigour the Tories pursued that with. "Hey, look at this guy, he's *as bad* as our law-breaking Prime Minister for criminality!" For what it's worth, I do think it was a really bad look for Starmer at the time. Sadly, you've got to be whiter than white as Labour leader because people just won't cut you the same slack as they would the guy over the aisle. He did absolutely the right thing in putting his own neck on the block. Edited 8 July 2022 by Voll Blau 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 1 minute ago, Nalis said: Very happy Starmer is cleared, was fearing the next Labour leader would be some god awful Corbyn/McConnell type. Tories will claim Police are biased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 1 minute ago, Nalis said: Very happy Starmer is cleared, was fearing the next Labour leader would be some god awful Corbyn/McConnell type. I’m pleased about that because Keir and Angie are an electoral asset to us Conservatives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 3 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: Tories will claim Police are biased Good luck with that, chums... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/05/dominic-cummings-durham-police-reject-dossier-of-evidence-on-lockdown-journeys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 1 minute ago, Fazzer 7 said: I’m pleased about that because Keir and Angie are an electoral asset to us Conservatives. Lets see at the next general election. Anyway, surely as a Tory you'd rather have a Corbyn type to sweep up the middle of the road voters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 Pretty sickening that they ate some food during lockdown tbh. Blatant corruption 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 11 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: I’m pleased about that because Keir and Angie are an electoral asset to us Conservatives. Is that because they don't recognise honesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HighPeakFox Posted 8 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 8 July 2022 Anyone now voting Conservative cheerfully and uncritically, comfortably fulfils the modern-day definition of madness. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BenTheFox Posted 8 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 8 July 2022 Starmer is exactly the kind of dull, insipid and unaspiring person that I can get behind. I would take it everyday over the chaos we have had. I can understand why the Labour left are sceptical about him but what I would say to them is let's see what the manifesto looks like before the general election (which is hopefully not too far away) first. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robo61 Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 11 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: We went our own way on the vaccine procurement which was a huge success. While we were still in the EU, for f"""sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 What possible motivation could multimillionaire aristocratic government minister have for axing a fraud watchdog? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 36 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: Starmer cleared by Durham Police. Stick that up your pipe Nadine and co The best thing is that's bound to wind up both the Tories and Corbynites at the same time. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dunge Posted 8 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 8 July 2022 28 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: I’m pleased about that because Keir and Angie are an electoral asset to us Conservatives. Keir Starmer is a reason why I - typically a Conservative voter - would be happy to vote Labour. If you think he’s an electoral asset to the Conservatives, you’re very much mistaken. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 35 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: I’m pleased about that because Keir and Angie are an electoral asset to us Conservatives. 6 minutes ago, Dunge said: Keir Starmer is a reason why I - typically a Conservative voter - would be happy to vote Labour. If you think he’s an electoral asset to the Conservatives, you’re very much mistaken. Who as Labour leader would you chaps consider an electoral threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 3 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Who as Labour leader would you chaps consider an electoral threat? Right now, someone who’s competent and moderate. Essentially, I can’t see myself ever voting for anyone with hard left policies. But Starmer seems decent - a bit dull but who cares. Burnham gets mentioned a lot and I could see him picking up a lot of votes. (I know he’s not an MP right now.) I like Nandy a lot but not sure she has the necessary gravitas. Cooper’s competent; even David Lammy has grown on me a bit. On the other hand if Labour head back down the direction of a Burgen or a Long-Bailey then I’m not touching them with a barge pole. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 Tory headbanger blue ticks are in complete meltdown. What a way to start a Friday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dames Posted 8 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 8 July 2022 1 minute ago, Dunge said: Right now, someone who’s competent and moderate. Essentially, I can’t see myself ever voting for anyone with hard left policies. But Starmer seems decent - a bit dull but who cares. Burnham gets mentioned a lot and I could see him picking up a lot of votes. (I know he’s not an MP right now.) I like Nandy a lot but not sure she has the necessary gravitas. Cooper’s competent; even David Lammy has grown on me a bit. On the other hand if Labour head back down the direction of a Burgen or a Long-Bailey then I’m not touching them with a barge pole. The best thing Starmer has done is purging them all from positions of power in the party. There are still some CLP holdouts that absolutely despise him but its starting to swing now with the Corbynites leaving in their droves. Nandy is definitely the shout for next leader. Shes shadowed Gove for years and considering his supposed 'Prowess' at the dispatch box she's handled him every single time. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 The party that wins the majority of the middle ground always wins (unless it’s a singe issue election like last time) its not rocket science No point wasting time and policies trying to convince your basic voting block to support you - you’ve got to appeal to the middle ground. The problem that parties have is that their membership votes for the leader ……. Starmer is fairly boring but he’s a safe pair of hands. The tories need to do the same. if they choose someone stained by Johnson’s administration, then that will screw them over because it’s just too easy for Labour to discredit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 Look at the recently elected Labor PM in OZ. Boring centreist that made a small target as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 Daily Mail article has 5k comments and they're mostly in meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daggers Posted 8 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 8 July 2022 1 hour ago, Dunge said: Keir Starmer is a reason why I - typically a Conservative voter - would be happy to vote Labour. If you think he’s an electoral asset to the Conservatives, you’re very much mistaken. My parents are typical blue rinse OAP Tories. They said they hoped Johnson would become PM. I told them that I did too, as he would consign the party back to the bin for a generation. They wouldn’t listen to reason or consider evidence about why he was a hopeless cock. They celebrated and gloated when he won the gig. I didn’t speak to my father again until late last year. He was a vile c*** about it, Brexit and other stuff. They are voting for Starmer. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 1 hour ago, Dunge said: Keir Starmer is a reason why I - typically a Conservative voter - would be happy to vote Labour. If you think he’s an electoral asset to the Conservatives, you’re very much mistaken. Well, I guess we’ll see eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 6 minutes ago, Daggers said: My parents are typical blue rinse OAP Tories. They said they hoped Johnson would become PM. I told them that I did too, as he would consign the party back to the bin for a generation. They wouldn’t listen to reason or consider evidence about why he was a hopeless cock. They celebrated and gloated when he won the gig. I didn’t speak to my father again until late last year. He was a vile c*** about it, Brexit and other stuff. They are voting for Starmer. I’m sorry to hear that. I don’t like anyone gloating over election victories, from either side. I was happy (well, relieved) when the Conservatives won the last election but there was never any need to rub it in people’s faces. I may massively disagree with people who backed Labour last time out, but I acknowledge they did so because they had a heartfelt belief it was the right thing to do for the country. To give them a booting, particularly at a time when they themselves will be saddened and disappointed for the futures of themselves and others is just cruel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said: Who as Labour leader would you chaps consider an electoral threat? Me, Streeting. He’s younger has more drive and ambition, and is more left leaning than Starmer, without being extreme left,(as far as I know) though I’m not sure whether being a remainer would count against him. Edited 8 July 2022 by Fazzer 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 8 July 2022 Share Posted 8 July 2022 1 minute ago, Dunge said: I’m sorry to hear that. I don’t like anyone gloating over election victories, from either side. I was happy (well, relieved) when the Conservatives won the last election but there was never any need to rub it in people’s faces. I may massively disagree with people who backed Labour last time out, but I acknowledge they did so because they had a heartfelt belief it was the right thing to do for the country. To give them a booting, particularly at a time when they themselves will be saddened and disappointed for the futures of themselves and others is just cruel. I think it’s more down to his personality changing with age rather than him being a Tory. It’s bizarre considering all of his children and in-laws work in social sector roles and have all suffered from Tory cutbacks and pay freezes. It’s like he hates us all…but me in particular. I’ve spent a lifetime treading on eggshells, it was a wave of relieve when I cut him from my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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