Alf Bentley Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 They have TV hustings tomorrow and Sunday, so my guess is that the remaining 5 will stay in for those, hoping to make a big impression. Unless Tugendhat is massively impressive at the hustings, though, he looks likely to be eliminated on Monday. It also wouldn't surprise me if whichever of Truss and Badenoch gets fewer votes on Monday drops out so as to have a united right-wing vote in the latter stages. Looking at today's figures, it's by no means certain that Truss beats Badenoch on Monday. Truss is now only 15 votes ahead and there are Braverman's 27 votes to be redistributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 I think Truss is oddly a shoo-in for the final 2. TV Debates this weekend will be key for Sunak and Mordaunt. Sunak needs to show re-invention and his own ideas and ideals. Mordaunt needs to show her momentum can continue. Truss could literally S**t in a bucket and the right would still back her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmt Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 It's so funny that Truss is going to unite the right. She's an absolute moron. As someone who has never voted Conservative I'd be buzzing to face her in a GE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 4 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: If ever there was an insight into the direction of how she would lead the country, this would be it. And also how it has been run, for that matter... Looks totally lost, has no idea which way to go, chooses the wrong option first and has to be bailed out by someone else to get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 37 minutes ago, Zear0 said: Thank god that maniac is out the running. Eliminate five more and it'd be a great result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 7 minutes ago, StanSP said: If ever there was an insight into the direction of how she would lead the country, this would be it. And also how it has been run, for that matter... Looks totally lost, has no idea which way to go, chooses the wrong option first and has to be bailed out by someone else to get away with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 Sunak needs to quit in the final three to keep Truss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 Only one from the top 3 who might win a GE is Sunak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 1 minute ago, Dunge said: Sunak needs to quit in the final three to keep Truss out. Sunak will see Mordaunt as the biggest threat in the member vote, if it’s possible then I can see him and Truss working tactically to block out Mordaunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 29 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: They have TV hustings tomorrow and Sunday, so my guess is that the remaining 5 will stay in for those, hoping to make a big impression. Unless Tugendhat is massively impressive at the hustings, though, he looks likely to be eliminated on Monday. It also wouldn't surprise me if whichever of Truss and Badenoch gets fewer votes on Monday drops out so as to have a united right-wing vote in the latter stages. Looking at today's figures, it's by no means certain that Truss beats Badenoch on Monday. Truss is now only 15 votes ahead and there are Braverman's 27 votes to be redistributed. Badenoch will not beat truss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 2 minutes ago, Nalis said: Only one from the top 3 who might win a GE is Sunak. It sounds silly but Sunak doesn’t have the stature to be leader. I genuinely don’t think folk will vote for a shorter man and any favour he curried economically will be worn away in the coming months into the winter. Mordaunt is the only one who can use the blank slate excuse and even then she has a job on her hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 1 minute ago, Finnaldo said: Sunak will see Mordaunt as the biggest threat in the member vote, if it’s possible then I can see him and Truss working tactically to block out Mordaunt. His ego will stop him doing the sensible thing which is to approach mordaunt and agree to back out for a cabinet position in return. He also can’t do that because too many big hitting mp’s have backed him. he simply cannot win the membership vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 Just now, st albans fox said: His ego will stop him doing the sensible thing which is to approach mordaunt and agree to back out for a cabinet position in return. He also can’t do that because too many big hitting mp’s have backed him. he simply cannot win the membership vote Agree 100% on both points, you know he’s been plotting this since the end of the pandemic and he won’t back down now, yet it’s down to Truss or Mordaunt who gets the other spot I imagine, and they’ll almost certainly be the next PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 2 minutes ago, Finnaldo said: Agree 100% on both points, you know he’s been plotting this since the end of the pandemic and he won’t back down now, yet it’s down to Truss or Mordaunt who gets the other spot I imagine, and they’ll almost certainly be the next PM. I can’t see any way that sunak and mordaunt are the final two Surely too many right wing mp’s for that to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: I can’t see any way that sunak and mordaunt are the final two Surely too many right wing mp’s for that to happen Given that Mordaunt’s numbers aren’t TOO strong, I could see Truss asking some supporters to ‘go across the aisle’ as such and vote Sunak to make them the final two. Truss would know she has him beat in the members vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 11 minutes ago, Finnaldo said: Sunak will see Mordaunt as the biggest threat in the member vote, if it’s possible then I can see him and Truss working tactically to block out Mordaunt. But if he’s going to lose the membership vote anyway, vote to keep out the nutter. And get your job as chancellor back in Mordaunt’s government, knowing that you don’t have an eccentric crackpot next door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 1 minute ago, Dunge said: But if he’s going to lose the membership vote anyway, vote to keep out the nutter. And get your job as chancellor back in Mordaunt’s government, knowing that you don’t have an eccentric crackpot next door. As mentioned, I think his ego will get in the way. He’s been planning for this for too long. Also, I don’t see Mordaunt giving me Chancellor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 1 minute ago, Dunge said: But if he’s going to lose the membership vote anyway, vote to keep out the nutter. And get your job as chancellor back in Mordaunt’s government, knowing that you don’t have an eccentric crackpot next door. That was my point above but career politicians have egos the size of a small state ….. If it comes down to the last three being sunak, truss and mordaunt then Richi has a big call to make I think we need to see how the weekend goes - mordaunt needs to perform under pressure of questioning the like of which she hasn’t faced before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 (edited) Truss is a true right winger... loyal to her beliefs and her childrens futures. Edited 14 July 2022 by weller54 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 8 minutes ago, Finnaldo said: As mentioned, I think his ego will get in the way. He’s been planning for this for too long. Also, I don’t see Mordaunt giving me Chancellor. Have you even tried though? Be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 Since when did "only Secretary of State for Defence" become inexperience? Amazing how this BS phrases seem to just stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 15 minutes ago, st albans fox said: That was my point above but career politicians have egos the size of a small state ….. If it comes down to the last three being sunak, truss and mordaunt then Richi has a big call to make I think we need to see how the weekend goes - mordaunt needs to perform under pressure of questioning the like of which she hasn’t faced before Can also be related to height, Sunak after all is a gigantic five foot five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnaldo Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 19 minutes ago, Dunge said: Have you even tried though? Be honest. Touché Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 49 minutes ago, weller54 said: Truss is a true right winger... loyal to her beliefs and her childrens futures. As with most career politicians she is going where the money is or she is a convert - converts are the worst type of believers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 14 July 2022 Share Posted 14 July 2022 Why is everyone convinced Rishi doesn't have the support of the party members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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