reporterpenguin Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 Tugendhadt out. Shame, he almost seemed like an actual human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 Mad cvnt needs removing immediately after talking about deep states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 (edited) Badenoch has serious momentum, think a few could defect from Truss to her, and more will go to her from Tugendhat than as presumed. Edited 18 July 2022 by LVocey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2607 Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 7 hours ago, Claridge said: I'm not sure he got much right, hopefully he has learnt and is passing on this advice. Might take a long time Really? You think life was worse under Blair/brown than it is now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 17 minutes ago, LVocey said: Badenoch has serious momentum, think a few could defect from Truss to her, and more will go to her from Tugendhat than as presumed. She can't possibly be PM ffs!!...she looks like a deer in the headlights and just out of Uni!!.. The world has gone absolutely mental!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 On 15/07/2022 at 18:20, String fellow said: Airline pilots have to steer up/down and left/right, bus drivers have to steer left/right, but train drivers - the rails do the steering for them! https://www.snclavalin.com/en/beyond-engineering/why-driverless-operations-are-the-key But who will be to blame when one flys off the rails into a housing estate after whacking into a hgv that’s broke down on a railway crossing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 7 minutes ago, weller54 said: She can't possibly be PM ffs!!...she looks like a deer in the headlights and just out of Uni!!.. The world has gone absolutely mental!! That’s not the reason ……. we all know what the reason is ……. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie1999 Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 (edited) See Boris is off to help out in Ukraine again. Call sign Charlie Uniform November Tango Edited 18 July 2022 by yorkie1999 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 6 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: See Boris is off to help out in Ukraine again. Call sign Charlie Uniform November Tango More big gut than top gun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobHawk Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 8 hours ago, Claridge said: I'm not sure he got much right, hopefully he has learnt and is passing on this advice. Might take a long time How did he not get much right? He is one of the most successful chancellor's this country has ever had and certainly the best of my lifetime. I'd love to know your reasoning behind you thinking he didn't get much right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 He broke the law for starters. Out with one law breaker and in with another, it seems 115 MPs aren't bothered regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, RobHawk said: How did he not get much right? He is one of the most successful chancellor's this country has ever had and certainly the best of my lifetime. I'd love to know your reasoning behind you thinking he didn't get much right? Inherited a booming economy and left it skint for a start. Did nothing for people in the north. Such an amazing job that he lost to Cameron and there hasn’t been a labour government since Edited 18 July 2022 by Claridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RobHawk Posted 18 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 18 July 2022 8 minutes ago, Claridge said: Inherited a booming economy and left it skint for a start. Did nothing for people in the north Well that's just not true though is it. The labour government with brown as chancellor did more for 'levelling up' as the Tory's now like to call it, than any other government in the last 50s including for those in the north. As chancellor he did not leave the country skint. He was PM when the global financial crash hit. That wasnt caused by him or any other labour politician either. Theres a few hindsight arguments you could throw at him, but his record as chancellor pits him as the best post war chancellor to date. Not many others would even get close to his record. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 18 July 2022 Share Posted 18 July 2022 22 minutes ago, Claridge said: Inherited a booming economy and left it skint for a start. Did nothing for people in the north. Such an amazing job that he lost to Cameron and there hasn’t been a labour government since Helped reduce child poverty in this country 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daggers Posted 19 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 19 July 2022 8 hours ago, RobHawk said: As chancellor he did not leave the country skint. He was PM when the global financial crash hit. That wasnt caused by him or any other labour politician either. That this even needs to be restated underlines the pointlessness of having the argument. If someone has managed to make it to this day and age without fully accepting what happened then they are either too stupid to understand or willingly don’t want to accept it for ideological reasons. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 8 hours ago, RobHawk said: Well that's just not true though is it. The labour government with brown as chancellor did more for 'levelling up' as the Tory's now like to call it, than any other government in the last 50s including for those in the north. As chancellor he did not leave the country skint. He was PM when the global financial crash hit. That wasnt caused by him or any other labour politician either. Theres a few hindsight arguments you could throw at him, but his record as chancellor pits him as the best post war chancellor to date. Not many others would even get close to his record. He was partly responsible for the crash with his arse licking of the banking sector, allowing them to do what they want. You seem to ignore the fact that when he became chancellor labour had a massive majority and over 250 more seats than the tories.They also had most of the seats in the north(Scotland). By the end of his reign they had lost the election and were obliterated in Scotland, meaning that it will be very difficult for labour to have a decent majority again. You can't blame all this on Brown, but he must take a massive share of the blame. If he was so good, why did the people abandon him their droves? Your argument about him being the best post-war chancellor are laughable to the point of ridiculous, not even sure Brown would claim that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 10 hours ago, weller54 said: She can't possibly be PM ffs!!...she looks like a deer in the headlights and just out of Uni!!.. The world has gone absolutely mental!! She is 42, hardly just out of Uni. I think she might be our first black PM, but I guess not this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 1 hour ago, Claridge said: He was partly responsible for the crash with his arse licking of the banking sector, allowing them to do what they want. You seem to ignore the fact that when he became chancellor labour had a massive majority and over 250 more seats than the tories.They also had most of the seats in the north(Scotland). By the end of his reign they had lost the election and were obliterated in Scotland, meaning that it will be very difficult for labour to have a decent majority again. You can't blame all this on Brown, but he must take a massive share of the blame. If he was so good, why did the people abandon him their droves? Your argument about him being the best post-war chancellor are laughable to the point of ridiculous, not even sure Brown would claim that And things got so much better since the Tories got back in ? . I understand the gap between the richest and poorest in our country is wider than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Voll Blau Posted 19 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 19 July 2022 Risible. Imagine having to leave your dying mum to defend an already lame duck PM who's a proven liar because of the threat of losing the whip. Johnson's a monster. Feel for whoever it was who lacked the self-respect to tell him to fvck off. They've canned him and yet he's still destroying what little dignity his MPs have left. Whatever your politics, on a human level it's truly atrocious to see people being treated like that. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StanSP Posted 19 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 19 July 2022 I don't understand how Johnson can pull any strings any more. How can so many people be easily led when they're the ones that voted him out in the first place?! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 Badenoch being supported by Britain First is hilarious. Mind you, she is an ultra-right, climate change denying idiot - so I guess it fits. So far she has cried about Net Zero and then had to U-turn, mocked civil partnerships and same-sex marriage and is now, as a Black woman, giving the far right something to celebrate. Doing a grand job. Hope she gets in, she will be a disaster at a GE. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 its the US... but the UK and Aus is just the same... a society filled and run by the grredy thatcherites 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 26 minutes ago, SecretPro said: Badenoch being supported by Britain First is hilarious. Mind you, she is an ultra-right, climate change denying idiot - so I guess it fits. So far she has cried about Net Zero and then had to U-turn, mocked civil partnerships and same-sex marriage and is now, as a Black woman, giving the far right something to celebrate. Doing a grand job. Hope she gets in, she will be a disaster at a GE. Is she really a climate change denier? I knew about the net zero u-turn, but has she actually claimed that man-made climate change isn't real? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 19 July 2022 Share Posted 19 July 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Is she really a climate change denier? I knew about the net zero u-turn, but has she actually claimed that man-made climate change isn't real? Perhaps wrong terminolgy on my part - I guess anybody who makes the sort of comments she did on net-zero is in no way serious about the reality of climate change and the biodiversity crisis is what i was getting at. Looking at this it seems she may be a denialist or may not be. basically she changes her opinion like she changes her clothes: https://www.desmog.com/2022/07/13/kemi-badenoch-gifted-tory-gala-ticket-by-climate-denial-funder/ Edited 19 July 2022 by SecretPro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post weller54 Posted 19 July 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 19 July 2022 52 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: Risible. Imagine having to leave your dying mum to defend an already lame duck PM who's a proven liar because of the threat of losing the whip. Johnson's a monster. Feel for whoever it was who lacked the self-respect to tell him to fvck off. They've canned him and yet he's still destroying what little dignity his MPs have left. Whatever your politics, on a human level it's truly atrocious to see people being treated like that. Tobias Ellwood is far too good a politician with decent moral standards, to be part of this vile, disgusting, inept so called government!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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