Jon the Hat Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 12 hours ago, Captain... said: Really? Not a single piece? I've been to loads of festivals and always try my best, but sometimes the facilities aren't there, bins are over flowing or things get knocked over, spill out, blow away or just when drunk having a good times without deliberately trying to make a mess it just happens, things get forgotten, left behind or over looked. Even with the best intentions in the world everyone will be leaving some mess behind after 3-4 days at a music festival, multiply that by tens of thousands of people and yes some dickheads it easily turns into a huge mess. I've certainly picked up more of others than I could have accidentally dropped of my own. It would just never occur to me not to pick up something I dropped, even if that means running across a field like a numpty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 12 hours ago, bovril said: I can't imagine a lot of young people have much civic pride these days and why would they? Britain is a shithole for young people now. I have to say it feels very different where we are in Perth. Councils have proper funding to look after things, and that has a knock on effect on people's behavior. I am sure that is not the case everywhere, but there is certainly more pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes1988 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Fazzer 7 said: I’ve seen a lot of stuff like this from the Leeds and Reading festivals this weekend. Festival’s?! Has there ever been a more sanctimonious hypocritical entitled generation than these lot, addicted to consumerism. Then you’ll see them blocking oil refineries and gluing themselves to roads, to “save the planet” But hey ho let’s blame the boomers. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNcM7RXG/ You'd almost have a good point were it not for the fact that a lot of the people blocking oil refineries and gluing themselves to the roads are clearly Boomers. Infact I'd go one further then that and argue that that Boomers and millennials make up the majority of climate activists as they generally have more disposable income (for differing reasons) and free time then say Gen Zs do. Edited 31 August 2022 by foxes1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes1988 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, leicsmac said: This keeps cropping up as if it's some kind of point of contention or negative, rather than a necessity, a small part of a global solution that will at least save hundreds of millions of lives and at most actually keep human civilisation going for longer than it otherwise would. May I ask why? (And to forestall rehashed responses, "the bigger players aren't doing it so why should we?" is both inaccurate as a response and unacceptable as a solution anyway.) It is all just name slinging. As a socitey hunanity has to decarbonise. Its just a plain fact that fossil fuels are unsustainable . So the end goal is always a renewable way of using energy and anyone who says otherwise just cant do maths. All that is really being argued is that we are aiming to decarbonise too fast . But it's much easier and less nuanced to just call someone a zealot then address the issue with facts and dialogue Edited 31 August 2022 by foxes1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LanguedocFox Posted 31 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 31 August 2022 On 30/08/2022 at 07:23, Fazzer 7 said: A Labour Lib Dem coalition would be my worst nightmare, and god forbid the SNP end up in the mix. A Labour/LibDem coalition would only happen if the outcome were proportional representation, which would change politics for the better in this country. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taupe Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Yep, some form of PR needs to be looked at. Or at least some degree of electoral reform. The UK is ping-ponging, going nowhere locked in a binary battle. Each side more afraid of losing power than working for the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 40 minutes ago, LanguedocFox said: A Labour/LibDem coalition would only happen if the outcome were proportional representation, which would change politics for the better in this country. Absolutely on the nail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain... Posted 31 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 31 August 2022 12 hours ago, when_you're_smiling said: Remember one year one whole campsite was turned into an inferno, but the flip side is the campsites are by and large almost always one of the friendliest places around really. It’s just cause too many people have watched that Woodstock 99 documentary recently. 2002 was the year of the inferno, it was pretty scary, after that they moved locations and banned camp fires in the campsite. Not sure of the rules now. We really need to move away from this generational mud slinging holier than thou attitude. Music festivals are a massive party and having that many people having a good time out in the open you will get mess and litter, it's factored in and volunteer clean up crews are utilised to clean up. It's not boomers, it's not millennials or gen Z, it's not because of privilege or poor upbringing, it's just people being people. We are flawed, all of us, and we need to accept that and be supportive not continually trying to create divisions. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 On 30/08/2022 at 10:12, Fazzer 7 said: I’ve seen a lot of stuff like this from the Leeds and Reading festivals this weekend. Festival’s?! Has there ever been a more sanctimonious hypocritical entitled generation than these lot, addicted to consumerism. Then you’ll see them blocking oil refineries and gluing themselves to roads, to “save the planet” But hey ho let’s blame the boomers. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNcM7RXG/ See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Is it just me or is his farewell tour even sadder knowing that he's taking Nadine with him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 (edited) Silver lining of a truss premiership is the demise of priti patel the tarnishing of that lining is v quick as you realise she will be replaced by Suella Braverman …… Edited 31 August 2022 by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Daggers Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Is it just me or is his farewell tour even sadder knowing that he's taking Nadine with him? I found it sad the pair of them weren’t buried alive in that hole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Is it just me or is his farewell tour even sadder knowing that he's taking Nadine with him? "When you're in the shit, you need to know when to stop digging... Nadine.... Nadine"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 4 hours ago, st albans fox said: Silver lining of a truss premiership is the demise of priti patel the tarnishing of that lining is v quick as you realise she will be replaced by Suella Braverman …… I’ll raise a glass to that actually. Patel has been a complete and utter failure, beaten only by Dorries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 11 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: I’ll raise a glass to that actually. Patel has been a complete and utter failure, beaten only by Dorries. Suella would like to thank you personally for your support Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities Show votes3 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2016. Comparable Conservative MPs almost always voted for (3 votes, in 2016). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 It's funny that when the Tories talk about bringing the country together, what they actually mean is "shut up and come over to our side" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 18 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Suella would like to thank you personally for your support Consistently voted for mass surveillance of people’s communications and activities Show votes3 votes for, 0 votes against, in 2016. Comparable Conservative MPs almost always voted for (3 votes, in 2016). It won't amount to much anyway, because come 2024 we'll have a Labour government and all the problems will ebb away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Tory MPs and members really have got their finger on the pulse haven't they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 30 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Tory MPs and members really have got their finger on the pulse haven't they? One way of getting people off the motorway. Either avoiding the chaos or very quickly into the nearby fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 Oh well. I think I’ll live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 31 August 2022 Share Posted 31 August 2022 56 minutes ago, Daggers said: Oh well. I think I’ll live. Did you suggest to him that Keir Starmer was something other than the scum of the earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 1 September 2022 Share Posted 1 September 2022 1 hour ago, Dunge said: Did you suggest to him that Keir Starmer was something other than the scum of the earth? I said he was the obverse of a grifting Darren Grimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 1 September 2022 Share Posted 1 September 2022 6 hours ago, Daggers said: I said he was the obverse of a grifting Darren Grimes. You really dropped the O-bomb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 1 September 2022 Share Posted 1 September 2022 Outgoing minister for health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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