FoxesDeb Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said: Well, judging by the damage his announcement of GBE has done to Centrica and their ilk, he could pick them up as a job lot for £50 and integrate them into the fold So my Centrica shares and my also Centrica final salary pension are not looking too favourable right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 Just now, FoxesDeb said: So my Centrica shares and my also Centrica final salary pension are not looking too favourable right now? Saw that Centrica and some of the other power companies lost 7% after the announcement, so… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 (edited) . Edited 28 September 2022 by Izzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zear0 Posted 27 September 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 27 September 2022 He's not nationalising energy companies, he's creating a new Green Energy one owned by the state. The current energy produces will be untouched. Miliband was asked if they were in line on Radio4 and said "no". 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 3 minutes ago, Zear0 said: He's not nationalising energy companies, he's creating a new Green Energy one owned by the state. The current energy produces will be untouched. Miliband was asked if they were in line on Radio4 and said "no". This was my understanding too. It's a more balanced approach than Corbyns nationalise everything in one hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 24 minutes ago, Zear0 said: He's not nationalising energy companies, he's creating a new Green Energy one owned by the state. The current energy produces will be untouched. Miliband was asked if they were in line on Radio4 and said "no". Fair play, I should have read the small print Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 We’re in the G7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 Keir punching above his weight?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzle Fox Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 1 hour ago, Zear0 said: He's not nationalising energy companies, he's creating a new Green Energy one owned by the state. The current energy produces will be untouched. Miliband was asked if they were in line on Radio4 and said "no". Exactly. It will basically be like a heavily funded start up business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: Every vote on what? On each bill in parliament? Nothing to do with Parliamentary activities! Every vote made by an individual at a General Election should lead to that vote/person having representation in Parliament. If I vote Green at the next election, then, even if another party gets most votes in my constituency, my vote should be added to those cast for the Greens and used to elect a Green MP. - same for all parties which, although attracting a substantial number of votes, at present get little or no voice in the Commons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 27 September 2022 Share Posted 27 September 2022 1 hour ago, weller54 said: Keir punching above his weight?..... Envious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dahnsouff Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 5 hours ago, gerblod said: Nothing to do with Parliamentary activities! Every vote made by an individual at a General Election should lead to that vote/person having representation in Parliament. If I vote Green at the next election, then, even if another party gets most votes in my constituency, my vote should be added to those cast for the Greens and used to elect a Green MP. - same for all parties which, although attracting a substantial number of votes, at present get little or no voice in the Commons. How do I know if you are voting for the Greens on local or national issues then? There is a disconnect I do agree, but I am not sure this approach changes it in a meaningful way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RobHawk Posted 28 September 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 28 September 2022 6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: The scariest thing about that is that a quarter of the country would vote for more of the same. Blows my mind 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livid Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: 1 in 4 still willing to vote for them. Wow!! We need to stop this change of PM change of policy, mid parliament. Yes they were elected into government in 2019 but they need to be bound to the manifesto at the time of the election. No one, 80000 deluded Conservative Party members exempt, voted for this madness. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 11 hours ago, FoxesDeb said: So my Centrica shares and my also Centrica final salary pension are not looking too favourable right now? Think yourself lucky you don’t hold Vodafone ones, or maybe you do😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 43 minutes ago, Livid said: 1 in 4 still willing to vote for them. Wow!! We need to stop this change of PM change of policy, mid parliament. Yes they were elected into government in 2019 but they need to be bound to the manifesto at the time of the election. No one, 80000 deluded Conservative Party members exempt, voted for this madness. Hard to disagree, if you a change of leader does need to occur then whoever comes in must be bound by manifesto commitments. I do get there may be extenuating circumstances, war, covid, but they should not allow rewriting of commitments during 'peace time' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2607 Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 11 hours ago, gerblod said: I watched the whole of Starmer's speech and I was glad I did. Although I'm left of Starmer, he's the kind of leader who, hopefully, won't go on an ego trip as Blair did. Blair would never have considered renationalisation of the 'essential' public services. It's taken over forty years for the electorate to realise that selling off public assets exposes the them to this kind of take-it-or-leave-it skullduggery. But, although I will vote Labour at the next election, it will be to remove the Tories - they need to think about what they've allowed to happen over the last decade+ and come back with a sense of a learned lesson in humility. But until PR is introduced I know that here in Bosworth my vote will, unless there's a huge shift to Labour, be of no influence at all. That's not democracy - it's disenfranchisement. Every vote should count as representation in Parliament. That way no one party would have the ability to enact laws which aren't in the general interest of our citizenry. The idea that the 80k members of the Tory Party membership who voted for Liz Truss were allowed to choose the PM for 66m inhabitants of the UK is feudal - no other word so apt. I was born in bosworth 40 years ago. It's always been a Tory seat for as long as I've been alive. Now I live in Ashby where the Tory MP is guilty of perjury. I guess NW Leics will remain blue as well given the size of his majority. Which is mental when you think that it's main town is coalville, which is the very definition of working class. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 I dont know why everyone is bothered about cost of living, not being able to afford things... just look to the government to solve your problems... get a loan! ........ Easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 Go over to Calais get in a dingy and set off, BF will meet and greet you, put you in a hotel a nice warm room all paid for, give you 3 meals a day, clothing health and dental care, a phone and £39 a week spending money. Cost of living problem solved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 14 hours ago, bovril said: I feel like there's been a bit if a shift in recent days as people become tired of having a government that actively makes their lives worse. All the boring culture war stuff of the last decade seems to be falling away. They are desperately trying to find any scrap of populist rubbish to keep it going. See the Gary Neville/footballers never asked a cap nonsense. They will very much try it with the strike action of the postmen and train staff in the coming month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 The credibility of kwarteng and truss is shot to pieces without some strong action over the next few days and I can’t see what they can do which doesn’t destroy them. she could sack him but her dabs are all over this unless she can lay the tax cuts firmly at his door the markets won’t wait until late November The conference next week could be v embarrassing as they cannot simply evade interviews the global economy is suffering on the back of our ridiculous calls - it’s sentiment. Whilst we matter not much re size, our actions have highlighted the desperate situation the global economy finds itself. this year was pretty desperate already for many businesses - barely keeping their heads above water. The foreign exchange consequences of this sterling drop from 1.15 (which was already awful) to 1.07 will drive a whole quarter of losses, maybe longer depending on credit term lengths. Pre brexit sterling was 1.48 to the usd and the euro 1.40 - these were not excessive rates at the time (as per when the dollar was around 2 to the pound leading up to the period of the financial crash). so the pound has lost fair value 40% against a dollar that is at least 10% over valued at the moment and 22% against a weakish euro. it’s safe to say that our currency has lost around 25% of its value over the past 7 years as a global buying tool. That’s incredibly tough for an economy to take when it is a huge nett importer. At a time when we needed a steady hand on the tiller and we got a combination of Del Boy and vyvyan from the young ones ……… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazzer 7 Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 So now the IMF are threatening Truss and her government over tax cuts. Just like the EU commissioner has threatened the new Italian PM. It’s all orchestrated, anyone would think they want a one world government. Keep in line now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raj Posted 28 September 2022 Share Posted 28 September 2022 Ftse has lost over 1.5% today. Great call Chancellor you fecking tw@t. Should have had Rishi in charge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnaldo Posted 28 September 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 28 September 2022 20 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: So now the IMF are threatening Truss and her government over tax cuts. Just like the EU commissioner has threatened the new Italian PM. It’s all orchestrated, anyone would think they want a one world government. Keep in line now. And people called Momentum a cult ffs 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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