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The I cant believe it’s not politics thread.

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So much of U.K. wealth is held in our homes. You **** with that you are on a very short tenure politically. Not only is that clearly a major (self inflicted) issue now, people will also see huge sums wiped off their pensions (again, self inflicted), and the people that will hit the most (due to retire) are a key Tory demographic. 
 

Without a change of course, the Tory party will be completely obliterated at the next election. Extinction level stuff, margin much bigger than Blair imo. 
 

The irony in a lot of this is that the single biggest step we could take to boost growth is rejoining the single market. On top of that, part of the gov plan on supply side is to significantly ease immigration rules to get more people into the country to remedy the overheated job market… so why did we leave the EU again (again, self inflicted)? 

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11 hours ago, RoboFox said:

Christ, it's even worse than they said isn't it? I thought it was just hyperbole. I genuinely gave her the benefit of the doubt assuming someone who gets to that position at least has to be partly competent. 

 

Anyone with any nous is long gone, Johnson made sure of that. Joe Lycett was right, we really have been left with the dregs of a broken and corrupt Tory party which lets be honest, had little credibility in the first place.

 

How has it been allowed to get this bad? 

Turkeys keep voting for Christmas 

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10 minutes ago, rachhere said:

So they aren’t happy. 
 

Well they won’t be able to hide at the party conference 

Big Beasts who voted for Sunak aren’t going to the conference (nor Sunak). Red Wall MPs are considering not going. Anger is palpable.
 

I wouldn’t be surprised if Truss is getting some billionaire to fund shipping in a load of old biddies to fill the seats and clap on cue. 

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8 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

They are, but why? Is it because they know they will not win the next election 

I think they genuinely thought they could get away with a massive wealth transfer. It’s basically an attempt to create Singapore on Thames in London, but done at a remarkably stupid time, seemingly uncosted, and acting directly against the remit of the Bank of England.
 

It’s genuinely so stupid it does raise questions about who is really behind it (the IEA but we have no idea who funds them) /if there is another end game, and I’m about as far from a conspiracy theorist as you’re likely to find. 

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Just now, FoxesWalk said:

I think they genuinely thought they could get away with a massive wealth transfer. It’s basically an attempt to create Singapore on Thames in London, but done at a remarkably stupid time, seemingly uncosted, and acting directly against the remit of the Bank of England.
 

It’s genuinely so stupid it does raise questions about who is really behind it/if there is another end game, and I’m about as far from a conspiracy theorist as you’re likely to find. 

If it were implemented slowly, without such major long term borrowing, and not at a time of high inflation and major economic issues we need to address… it’s not ridiculous to think it could boost the City of London and grow our economy (at the cost of significantly increasing inequality), but the current economic backdrop is the opposite of what you want to make this work. 

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5 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

They are, but why? Is it because they know they will not win the next election 

They believe with religious fervent in the same way that crobyn believes in socialism or Rodgers believes in Danny ward, that less regulation, less taxes leads to growth and prosperity for all and are prepared to go against the electorate, their own party and the financial markets to prove it. 

 

Unfortunately for us it's completely bollocks especially in the current situation and we are all absolutely fuched. 

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14 hours ago, Izzy said:

The general mood around politics right now feels a lot like it did just before Tony Blair won to me. 

Agreed. One more round of villains it seems was enough to finally sway enough heads for meaningful change.

 

I have to say I think the script writers for Politics in this country deserve a lot of credit.

 

- Season 1 was a bit slow with the whole Cameron character and his "Big Society" arc, but it heated up at the end with the Brexit plot and cliffhanger result leading to the first villain's resignation.

- Season 2 dragged on and on and though the Corbyn character at times felt like a breath of fresh air, the pedantic new villain May was a bit tiresome to watch. Perhaps the weakest season in terms of gripping viewing. But boy, was this build up preparing for some major fireworks.

- Season 3 was when things got crazy. Johnson was a villain for the ages - behind his bumbling buffoon act lay a really nasty piece of work, and the Cummings character highly believable as puppet master extraordinaire. The ending of having a huge Conservative majority felt ominous in what was to come. The Blue Wedding if you will.

- Season 4 was balls to the wall nutso. At first I found an exotic illness imported from the east to be too unbelievable to digest, but wow did this season really throw people in a spin. Lockdowns, corruption and partying behind the scenes plus lies eventually catching out the main villains was an epic piece of viewing that will be hard to top. Cameo appearances from Hancock, Rhys-Mogg, Patel and Sunak led to an all star cast of true human cess pools, really making for despicable characters that were easy to believe. This season had the strongest cast and memories that will stay with many for life.

- And now Season 5! Well I didn't think it would be possible to top the previous villains and at first glance the Truss and Kwarteng characters looked like poor replacements for Season 4, but wow were we wrong! Tanking the economy by their own doing and declaring the greatest class war in modern times against the have-nots was not a plot I saw coming, but the execution has been genuinely terrifying.

 

After all this, I really hope that Season 6 returns to being a bit more boring and predictable. The Starmer character introduced in Season 4 is a bit dour, but perhaps a few seasons of boring Politics where people can just get on with living and not having to worry about paying to heat their houses would be pretty palatable after the recent craziness.

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Izzy said:

The general mood around politics right now feels a lot like it did just before Tony Blair won to me. 

Bit further along I think.At least John Major had finally got the economy going in the right direction.This lot are even more incompetent and are leading us into a deep recession which probably won’t have gone away at electon time 2024

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34 minutes ago, StriderHiryu said:

Agreed. One more round of villains it seems was enough to finally sway enough heads for meaningful change.

 

I have to say I think the script writers for Politics in this country deserve a lot of credit.

 

- Season 1 was a bit slow with the whole Cameron character and his "Big Society" arc, but it heated up at the end with the Brexit plot and cliffhanger result leading to the first villain's resignation.

- Season 2 dragged on and on and though the Corbyn character at times felt like a breath of fresh air, the pedantic new villain May was a bit tiresome to watch. Perhaps the weakest season in terms of gripping viewing. But boy, was this build up preparing for some major fireworks.

- Season 3 was when things got crazy. Johnson was a villain for the ages - behind his bumbling buffoon act lay a really nasty piece of work, and the Cummings character highly believable as puppet master extraordinaire. The ending of having a huge Conservative majority felt ominous in what was to come. The Blue Wedding if you will.

- Season 4 was balls to the wall nutso. At first I found an exotic illness imported from the east to be too unbelievable to digest, but wow did this season really throw people in a spin. Lockdowns, corruption and partying behind the scenes plus lies eventually catching out the main villains was an epic piece of viewing that will be hard to top. Cameo appearances from Hancock, Rhys-Mogg, Patel and Sunak led to an all star cast or true human cess pools, really making for despicable characters that were easy to believe. This season had the strongest cast and memories that will stay with many for life.

- And now Season 5! Well I didn't think it would be possible to top the previous villains and at first glance the Truss and Kwarteng characters looked like poor replacements for Season 4, but wow were we wrong! Tanking the economy by their own doing and declaring the greatest class war in modern times against the have-nots was not a plot I saw coming, but the execution has been genuinely terrifying.

 

After all this, I really hope that Season 6 returns to being a bit more boring and predictable. The Starmer character introduced in Season 4 is a bit dour, but perhaps a few seasons of boring Politics where people can just get on with living and not having to worry about paying to heat their houses would be pretty palletable after the recent craziness.

 

 

If this was a political satire it would be thought as a bit too daft

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15 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

So it’s emerged Starmer intends to stop all gas production from the north sea by 2030. I thought he wanted to win the GE. 

The Tories are so bad at the moment he could probably take a shit on the queen's grave and still be ahead in the polls. Tories enacting political suicide gives Starmer license to do what he wants.

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If we use the euro rather than the dollar as a measure of sterling recovery, we are only 1 percent off where we were ahead of last Friday. 

 

still v weak but now not purely down to the excess unfounded cuts announced 

 

its possible that some of the city people have realised that their actions are potentially creating a scenario where their party gets absolutely trounced in eighteen months and they’re making a judgment. So much of what happens is sentiment. If the pound is being oversold then others jump on the bandwagon … it’s how many of the algorithms work in addition to human trader actions 

 

of course the majority in the city simply care about themselves and nothing else …. But the actions of a few can be consequential, especially if they are bigger beasts ….

 

 

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1 hour ago, fox_up_north said:

I'll bite.

 

Yes, it's a good thing he wants to pivot to renewables and wean us off natural gas. 

Exactly, we are in the situation we are in now because we've not taken many of the opportunities to reduce our reliance on natural gas.

 

If we continue to be reliant on gas all it will take is another supplier to turn the taps off and it would be a post-apocalyptic scenario. 

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