fox_up_north Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, RoboFox said: I don't really get what her aim is with this rhetoric. Boris 2: Return of the Cvnt is the sequel we're never going to see, she knows that... So what's the long game here? Marriage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 As if Henry VI didn't suffer enough, Lord Frost compares him to Liz Truss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Lcfc Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 1 hour ago, BenTheFox said: What really upsets me about Brexit is how it was done all in the name of patriotism. Nothing screams patriotism like making the lives of many people in this country worse. I agree with you. The campaign was engineered on this narrative that the UK would be liberated and we would all live in this utopian society. Clearly, this hasn’t transpired. Sad, because the campaign was almost built around this xenophobic view that diversity is bad for this country. It has stirred up so much hatred and is a massive underlying reason as to why we are in political turmoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Lcfc Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 I am aware that this would never happen, but the Conservatives would almost be better calling an election, accepting a massive loss and almost restarting the party. They have lost all identity and direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 11 minutes ago, bovril said: As if Henry VI didn't suffer enough, Lord Frost compares him to Liz Truss A very good comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: A very good comparison He reigned quite a long time and made a dramatic comeback, something I doubt Truss will do. He was also a fundamentally decent, pious person who avoided conflict. The only comparison really is that he was a completely ineffectual ruler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 And while we're on historical comparisons how about King Charles dissolving parliament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 It was obvious that Truss was not up to such high office. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, bovril said: And while we're on historical comparisons how about King Charles dissolving parliament? The first one did lose his head somewhat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 1 minute ago, bovril said: He reigned quite a long time and made a dramatic comeback, something I doubt Truss will do. He was also a fundamentally decent, pious person who avoided conflict. The only comparison really is that he was a completely ineffectual ruler. That is the line I was thinking of. He was born to be king but was not cut out for it. He was something of a puppet. Truss seems to be a puppet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 20 October 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 20 October 2022 3 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: It was obvious that Truss was not up to such high office. None of them ever were. Truss, Kwarteng, Coffey, Hunt, Johnson, Sunak, Patel, Zahawi, Shapps, Rees-Mogg, Braverman. The list goes on. All with a provable track record of either misconduct in high office, expenses fraud or downright contemptible views on the most vulnerable of people. Walker went viral for being viscerally angry at the chaos but let’s be clear: he’s supported these people for the last 17 years in government. People like him are fully complicit in allowing these people to thrive. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, fox_up_north said: No chance the party MPs let Suella get anywhere near no.10. You also have to think - if the Tory members couldn't bring themselves to vote for Rishi Sunak, would they really vote for her? i am certain that a ‘caretaker PM’ will be an anointed by mp’s via grubby negotiations with no need to go to the membership 31 minutes ago, RoboFox said: I don't really get what her aim is with this rhetoric. Boris 2: Return of the Cvnt is the sequel we're never going to see, she knows that... So what's the long game here? she has made it clear - the public could not get behind a third PM within the same admin - only boris has a mandate from the electorate. I said this from the moment he was ousted. 8 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: That is the line I was thinking of. He was born to be king but was not cut out for it. He was something of a puppet. Truss seems to be a puppet. Truss was a puppet installed by the Johnsonites to keep the seat warm for a year ….. but they didn’t take account of just how naive and stupid she actually is Edited 20 October 2022 by st albans fox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 8 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: That is the line I was thinking of. He was born to be king but was not cut out for it. He was something of a puppet. Truss seems to be a puppet. He wished not to be ruler. Perhaps Truss is in the same position now, though she spent most of her life trying to get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 Brady in No. 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 Truss meeting 1922 committee chairman Prime Minister Liz Truss is meeting Graham Brady, the chairman of the influential 1922 Committee of backbench MPs, No 10 has confirmed. No reason has been given for why the meeting is taking place. The 1922 Committee oversees the election of Conservative leaders. How's the lettuce doing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 The lettuce has won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 They were warned… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 1 minute ago, Innovindil said: Truss meeting 1922 committee chairman Prime Minister Liz Truss is meeting Graham Brady, the chairman of the influential 1922 Committee of backbench MPs, No 10 has confirmed. No reason has been given for why the meeting is taking place. The 1922 Committee oversees the election of Conservative leaders. How's the lettuce doing? She saw hm only 48 hours ago Is he telling her that the game is up now or will be very soon whether she would listen is another matter downing st has confirmed that this meeting is taking place - surely they would only be doing this if it was in her interest to do so (unless they were specifically asked the question by a journo who had been tipped off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 Can the lettuce take over as leader now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobyfox1990 Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 20 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: It was obvious that Truss was not up to such high office. Yep. That’s why markets shorted the hell out of it when it over summer when it became clear she would win. Tbf to her she did exactly what she said she’d do during the leadership campaign, it’s just everyone knew it was a disaster waiting to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, Daggers said: They were warned… Truss’ poor performance is a surprise in the same way as when it was confirmed that savile was paedo Parris is no prophet - it was crystal clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 Well, that went well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said: Yep. That’s why markets shorted the hell out of it when it over summer when it became clear she would win. Tbf to her she did exactly what she said she’d do during the leadership campaign, it’s just everyone knew it was a disaster waiting to happen Had she just reversed the NI and introduced the energy subsidies then it would have been no issue. the corp tax reversal could have beenI amended to be a smaller increase in the near term with a commitment to bring it back to 19% over the cycle. it was the batshit changes to the 45p/ acceleration of the 19p/ stamp duty changes / reduction on dividend taxes - all delivered on additional borrowing which screwed her over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 20 October 2022 Share Posted 20 October 2022 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: Had she just reversed the NI and introduced the energy subsidies then it would have been no issue. the corp tax reversal could have beenI amended to be a smaller increase in the near term with a commitment to bring it back to 19% over the cycle. it was the batshit changes to the 45p/ acceleration of the 19p/ stamp duty changes / reduction on dividend taxes - all delivered on additional borrowing which screwed her over Complete lack of judgement from Truss and co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HighPeakFox Posted 20 October 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 20 October 2022 Oh well, it'd be SO much worse under Corbyn, who let it be remembered, is simultaneously useless AND so powerful that the entire press corps moved against him. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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