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pSinatra Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 Not a peep out of Rishi. Not one word. No interviews. No statements of intent. His leadership campaign seemed to consist of getting in & out of cars. The smiling assassin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkisnorbo Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: Within the strictures of our parliamentary system and you know it, stop being such a shock jock That does not mean I have to think it is right. I don’t even know what “shock jock” means either. Hardly a shocking opinion is it? Edited 24 October 2022 by kingkisnorbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 3 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said: That does not mean I have to think it is right. I don’t even know what “shock jock” means either. Hardly a shocking opinion is it? As I find the behaviour reprehensible, its not law breaking, so no not a shocking opinion, but it also not a shock it is happening either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 8 hours ago, st albans fox said: We are a representative democracy Hence those 357 people are carrying out their democratic duty given the situation they find themselves. And, therefore, a pale and watery substitute for a true democracy. It's interesting that you use the words "democratic duty". After the Brexit débâcle, where Cameron was pressured into a referendum by the ERG (were they interested in "democratic duty "?), 'we' see a rapid descent into venal self-interest and shocking incompetence by a caucus of talentless wannabes. Unfortunately our FPTP voting system and a propagandised and ignorant electorate allowed Johnson to access power. The rats had been given free run of the granary. All concerns over "democratic duty" was abandoned without a second thought pro-tem - until the Tories could no longer risk the bad publicity Johnson's antics were attracting. Then the Tory parliamentary rabble saw fit to choose Truss and Sunak to present to the unspeakable Tory Party membership - who chose Truss! Those incessant gabblers on here (and throughout the media) who are still obsessed by which Tory is going to be our next PM are barking up the wrong tree. Whatyever happens the Tories will continue to make a hash of it. Mordaunt, Sunak - it makes no difference. They're akin to mediaeval aristocracy fighting the Wars of the Roses. F**k the serfs - this is about which chancer gets to play with power, while the rest of us try to make ends meet. One wonders how bad a government and an electoral system has to be before protest becomes impossible to ignore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkisnorbo Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: As I find the behaviour reprehensible, its not law breaking, so no not a shocking opinion, but it also not a shock it is happening either. At no point did I say it was law breaking either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 Just now, kingkisnorbo said: At no point did I say it was law breaking either. No, I realise, sorry was not tryiong to suggest you did, but peoples calls for a GE is madness and extremely reactionary (Let alone misguided from an opposition point of view) as the current Government holds the blame for the damage occurring beyond the global problems, so to letting them walk way and pass the problems to another party (who would then inevitably carry the can to some degree) feels self defeating. Wait for the next GE and walk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 5 minutes ago, gerblod said: And, therefore, a pale and watery substitute for a true democracy. It's interesting that you use the words "democratic duty". After the Brexit débâcle, where Cameron was pressured into a referendum by the ERG (were they interested in "democratic duty "?), 'we' see a rapid descent into venal self-interest and shocking incompetence by a caucus of talentless wannabes. Unfortunately our FPTP voting system and a propagandised and ignorant electorate allowed Johnson to access power. The rats had been given free run of the granary. All concerns over "democratic duty" was abandoned without a second thought pro-tem - until the Tories could no longer risk the bad publicity Johnson's antics were attracting. Then the Tory parliamentary rabble saw fit to choose Truss and Sunak to present to the unspeakable Tory Party membership - who chose Truss! Those incessant gabblers on here (and throughout the media) who are still obsessed by which Tory is going to be our next PM are barking up the wrong tree. Whatyever happens the Tories will continue to make a hash of it. Mordaunt, Sunak - it makes no difference. They're akin to mediaeval aristocracy fighting the Wars of the Roses. F**k the serfs - this is about which chancer gets to play with power, while the rest of us try to make ends meet. One wonders how bad a government and an electoral system has to be before protest becomes impossible to ignore. We used to let our betters **** our wives on our wedding night. Safe to say there’ll be no riots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 1 minute ago, Daggers said: We used to let our betters **** our wives on our wedding night. Safe to say there’ll be no riots. Ah, droit de seigneur! I doubt that was anything other than done under the duress of armed lackeys. There have been many riots against Tory governance and institutional thuggery in postwar Britain, especially when Thatcher was PM. But they were disorganised and unfocused and reactive - the 'Angry Brigade' for instance. Revolutions rarely end well - successful or not. We are at a point globally where first world consumerism is acting to damage the environment. Until politicians and peoples accept that this is the all-important priority we should all be bending a knee to, these current petty issues about who leads the Tory party are merely wasting time. Children arguing in a kindergarten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daggers Posted 24 October 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 24 October 2022 1 minute ago, gerblod said: Ah, droit de seigneur! I doubt that was anything other than done under the duress of armed lackeys. Actually I was referring to my wedding party at the rugby club. I just assumed it was the same for everyone. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 We operate in a parliamentary democracy and not a presidential one. Whoever leads the biggest party in Government is a matter for the MPs of that party to decide as we elect our MPs based on an individual basis trusting they will make the best decisions in our interest. That being said I don't like it but it's entirely within the rules. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zear0 Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 42 minutes ago, StanSP said: oops Abbott a supporter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daggers Posted 24 October 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 24 October 2022 I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Penny has probably secured the @Jattdogg vote. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134296603527 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerblod Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 4 hours ago, Daggers said: Actually I was referring to my wedding party at the rugby club. I just assumed it was the same for everyone. Club captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 “Prime male person” Also love the snuck in cvnt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 Sunak it is, then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 44 minutes ago, gerblod said: Club captain? Team, supporters and the Northamptonshire constabulary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 Did she wait until the last minute because she didn’t have 100 or she didn’t want the right to have time to find a last minute candidate ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 42 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: “Prime male person” Also love the snuck in cvnt And the best word in the English language 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderbyFox Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 190 out of touch MP's deciding the leader of the country. Warra mandate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Falling Foxes Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 3 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: Sunak it is, then... Strewth. Caught on camera during the previous campaign saying money should be diverted from poorer estates to wealthier ones and was well aware of his millionaire wife not paying taxes here. Wonder whose side he'll be on in the coming weeks and months? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hankey Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunak, Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunak!! Only time will tell now whether he'll be any good or not. He has a lot of work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 24 October 2022 Share Posted 24 October 2022 Fishy Rishi. The first person to become PM despite having a police caution? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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