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The I cant believe it’s not politics thread.

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Fazzer 7

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4 hours ago, fox_up_north said:

I'm very right wing and I agree. I felt all his answers satisfied my concerns and I have absolutely no worries about his premiership. 

That’s the spirit. More good news this afternoon, in a move sure to delight @leicsmache’s only gone and reimposed the fracking ban. 👌🏻🥳

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Fazzer 7

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1 hour ago, David Hankey said:

Yes, however the niceties from Starmer, Blackford and others welcoming him to his new position soon descending into the usual diatribe of rudeness and general unpleasantness. And they wonder why so many folk are switched off by politics and politicians.

Oh I don’t know, tbh I always find pmq’s entertaining. Though I would hope that the cabinet meetings are more restrained and serious. 

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Bellend Sebastian

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39 minutes ago, He aint bald said:

yep ,just to clarify,  generally.

 

bank only members have no guaranteed hours, no sick pay and are payed at the lower grades. They get access to some in house training and holiday pay is included in the hourly rate. The benefit to staff is you is that you can choose your own availability and location preferences....but in reality those who are prepared to jump out of bed and run in to work anywhere get offered shifts first..... and can make good money, especially with unsocial hours

 

Who knows how it is now though, probably got the bank staff sitting in the basement only geting paid when called to empty a bedpan, like Mcdonalds tried years ago.

The trust benefits as it is cheaper than agencies, staff know the environment and better still,  can be effectively sacked at  anytime..

 

Regular staff doing extra shifts, the trust mostly avoids paying overtime........ and again pays at the lowest grade....  not so popular with contracted staff

 

Not sure why you you think external companies proffiting is a good thing but maybe you have shares in BNA or similar?

 

As for the foriegn nurses, that was the the main benefit of working all over the hospital in my fat days.....  there was a perception of male nurses being gayish but believe me, i had much more sex working with Anna from Sweden and Milly from Thailand than I would have done in a warehouse working with Geordie and Jock.

I don't think it's a good thing, to the extent that I can only say it for comic effect but I suppose there are still people that would say the profit is wonderful so I could still be mistaken for one of them I guess.

 

I do wonder to what extent dysfunction in public services is tolerated by those that should be doing something about it because public money is being transferred to the private sector pretty effectively in some cases.

 

Shame you're not still there - a big chunk of the intake of nurses are from another continent to Anna and Milly if variety is your thing....

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David Hankey

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25 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said:

Oh I don’t know, tbh I always find pmq’s entertaining. Though I would hope that the cabinet meetings are more restrained and serious. 

It's all to do with the telly. Many look up and love to be seen on the big screen.

 

Much of what we see in Parliament is pure theatre and many politicians have no need to worry as they will have a life on the stage after politics.

 

In a way the House of Commons will have been a good grounding.

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leicsmac

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1 hour ago, Fazzer 7 said:

That’s the spirit. More good news this afternoon, in a move sure to delight @leicsmache’s only gone and reimposed the fracking ban. 👌🏻🥳

What's that? Is it a vestige of sanity among the Conservative leadership? Glory be.

 

I would hope that anyone with more than a passing interest in a future that doesn't offer a significantly increased chance of drought, famine and assorted suffering would be likewise delighted.

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Dahnsouff

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22 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

What's that? Is it a vestige of sanity among the Conservative leadership? Glory be.

 

I would hope that anyone with more than a passing interest in a future that doesn't offer a significantly increased chance of drought, famine and assorted suffering would be likewise delighted.

Misdirection to score points, the UK is singularly unsuited for fracking anyway

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Jattdogg

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5 hours ago, ealingfox said:

 

Thanks Dave.

 

4 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Not a problem Rahul. 

Lol  you guysssss 

 

 

3 hours ago, StanSP said:

It's just pure ignorance from Biden. I doubt there's racial intentions there but only he will know that. 

 

Doubt there's any malice in it either. 

 

Considering his stature as a 'world leader' he should probably just take a few seconds or moments to know how to pronounce someone's name. Just common sense. His reading of an autocue is terrible as it is. He's probably just very surprised to see something 'unusual' come up because his memory is worse than a goldfish. 

 

The excuse that he only just became leader on Monday/Tuesday doesn't wash either. Hardly like he was an unknown before then considering he was in the leadership race before Truss got PM. And I'd be shocked if he had no idea who Sunak was, or how to his name is pronounced, considering he was the favourite to take over before this week.

 

Rishi should just tell Jotinder Biden there's no big deal.

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Fazzer 7

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1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

What's that? Is it a vestige of sanity among the Conservative leadership? Glory be.

 

I would hope that anyone with more than a passing interest in a future that doesn't offer a significantly increased chance of drought, famine and assorted suffering would be likewise delighted.

I knew you’d welcome that :thumbup:

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4 hours ago, FoyleFox said:

I always think that if they all put as much effort into actual politics and solutions as they do bickering, the country might be a whole world better off!

 

Although, having just spent 12 years in Northern Ireland, this lot are amateurs when it comes to bickering, rudeness and getting sweet fa done!

They've no ****ing clue about how ineffective politicians can be

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On a side note there was an article in the Atlantic calling out the impact of Thatcherism on the UK and how it has caused its downfall. Remove London and the UK is a small eastern European economy 

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urban.spaceman

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3 minutes ago, rachhere said:

With things so delicately poised for them at the moment , why did he even risk putting her back in that role. Just madness. 

I was worried for a minute that he'd be vaguely competent. Won't be long until we're back in collapsing territory :fc:

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The whole world smiles

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16 minutes ago, rachhere said:

With things so delicately poised for them at the moment , why did he even risk putting her back in that role. Just madness. 

Just speculating but I would guess the ERG wing of the party were threatening to back boris johnson or penny mourdant (they ended up staying netrual and backing no candidate as a block) and this was probably the price of that neutrality. Rishi took it to avoid the vote going to the members. 

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5 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Just speculating but I would guess the ERG wing of the party were threatening to back boris johnson or penny mourdant (they ended up staying netrual and backing no candidate as a block) and this was probably the price of that neutrality. Rishi took it to avoid the vote going to the members. 

I'd agree. It's almost that Sunak knows she's gonna be done pretty quickly, as there is just so much baggage attached to her.

 

Get the PM gig,  she has to fall on her sword again, she's no longer a problem. 

 

Also why he brought his mate Jenrick into the same dept, as although he's a bit useless and has a soft spot for influencing favourable planning decisions for rich porn barons, he's not actually an extreme right wing idealogue.

 

Or maybe I'm giving him too much credit. 

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33 minutes ago, rachhere said:

With things so delicately poised for them at the moment , why did he even risk putting her back in that role. Just madness. 

 

26 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Bowing to the far right!!🤬🤬

 

13 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Just speculating but I would guess the ERG wing of the party were threatening to back boris johnson or penny mourdant (they ended up staying netrual and backing no candidate as a block) and this was probably the price of that neutrality. Rishi took it to avoid the vote going to the members. 

I think that’s a reasonable response 

 

I’m guessing that sunak knows that braverman’s position will become untenable over time as evidence of her breaches come to light. He looks like he is trying to protect her but he is likely just playing the game. I doubt he wants her there but had to do it as the price of getting an easy ride with no membership vote. 

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