Strokes Posted 26 May 2022 Share Posted 26 May 2022 The government always intended to introduce these measures but they had already read the Sue Gray report, so they planned the best time to introduce them. **** anyone suffering in between. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 26 May 2022 Share Posted 26 May 2022 33 minutes ago, Strokes said: The government always intended to introduce these measures but they had already read the Sue Gray report, so they planned the best time to introduce them. **** anyone suffering in between. I think it's worse than that - political expediency, nothing more. Forced into a policy they're ideologically opposed to for entirely cynical reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 26 May 2022 Share Posted 26 May 2022 So let's throw more money at people and everything is forgiven. I actually feel more livid with the guy today than I did yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 26 May 2022 Share Posted 26 May 2022 3 hours ago, Voll Blau said: Mind-boggling that any MP convicted of a crime is allowed to remain in post. Wouldn't be surprised at all in the slightest if Mr. Vaz supported her somehow.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 15 hours ago, LiberalFox said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-61591802 Claudia Webbe lost her appeal but her sentence got reduced so she won't face a recall petition. 15 hours ago, Voll Blau said: Mind-boggling that any MP convicted of a crime is allowed to remain in post. The analysis at that link says she could still face a recall petition if suspended from the Commons for more than 10 days due to her conviction. No idea how likely that is to happen, but must be a possibility? I tend to disagree that any conviction should disqualify an MP. Maybe it depends what is defined as a "crime"? I don't think an MP convicted of obstruction at a peaceful protest should be disqualified, but an MP convicted of a violent assault should. A one-off instance of drunkenness would not disqualify an MP, perhaps just meaning a lesser penalty, whereas repeatedly being drunk and disorderly should lead to disqualification, I'd say. I don't think Webbe should have been an MP in the first place as she's not up to the job. She was just shoehorned into the seat as a loyal supporter of then-leader Corbyn due to the Vaz fiasco just before the election. But I do have slightly more sympathy for her after the appeal. Firstly, it seems she didn't threaten to throw acid on the woman, just said "you should be acid" (maybe she should be recalled for inarticulacy alone!). It has also become clear that the woman she harassed was indeed having an affair with Webbe's partner and exchanging naked photos with him. So Webbe was justified in being angry and upset - though absolutely not justified in threatening to send naked photos to her family or making repeated silent calls. Such conduct merits suspension and recall from parliament. For the sake of the people of Leicester East, I hope she has the decency to stand down or does face recall. If so, Labour would have to be careful over candidate selection and local opinion or the byelection could be lost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2607 Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 my local MP has been found guilty of perjury.... but nothing has been done about it and he is still an MP. which is nice. a guess an MP lying in court is good practice for lying in parliament and to the electorate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 12 minutes ago, Greg2607 said: my local MP has been found guilty of perjury.... but nothing has been done about it and he is still an MP. which is nice. a guess an MP lying in court is good practice for lying in parliament and to the electorate. Yes, it's at least a 5 year training course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 Caught breaking the rules. So he changes the rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Caught breaking the rules. So he changes the rules. Would expect nothing less from the corrupt cvnt. Think Rory Stewart was underselling the problem yesterday when he said we're turning into Berlusconi's Italy under Johnson. Still, funny floppy hair haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 8 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: Caught breaking the rules. So he changes the rules. how can it be diluted any further ? it must be almost completely water by now .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 9 minutes ago, st albans fox said: how can it be diluted any further ? it must be almost completely water by now .... Current status is “making love in a canoe” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionator Posted 27 May 2022 Author Share Posted 27 May 2022 2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Caught breaking the rules. So he changes the rules. How can he just change the rules like that legally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 Nothing screams guilt like changing the rules to make any potential punishment far more lenient. I simply cannot believe that enough Tory MP's haven't had enough of this behaviour to put a letter of no confidence in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 As I've said before, decades if not generations worth of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 3 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Caught breaking the rules. So he changes the rules. What a crooked, entitled cvnt 🤬 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 It's like they want there to be riots over the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 2 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: It's like they want there to be riots over the summer Would be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 Coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 Just now, Strokes said: Would be funny. What was funny was Leicester's efforts when it all kicked off in Birmingham and London Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 Just now, Bellend Sebastian said: What was funny was Leicester's efforts when it all kicked off in Birmingham and London That’s why we need new riots, we need to redeem ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 5 hours ago, Greg2607 said: my local MP has been found guilty of perjury.... but nothing has been done about it and he is still an MP. which is nice. a guess an MP lying in court is good practice for lying in parliament and to the electorate. I thought Perjury carried a potential prison sentence: The most common penalty for perjury is a fine and/or jail, but the amount of the fine or jail time can depend on judicial discretion in sentencing. It’s possible for there to be a minimum sentence length as a penalty, perhaps one year, and a maximum length of sentencing at five to 10 years per charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 5 hours ago, Voll Blau said: Would expect nothing less from the corrupt cvnt. Think Rory Stewart was underselling the problem yesterday when he said we're turning into Berlusconi's Italy under Johnson. Still, funny floppy hair haha! And numerous (crap) appearances on "Have I Got News For you?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parafox Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 3 hours ago, LVocey said: Nothing screams guilt like changing the rules to make any potential punishment far more lenient. I simply cannot believe that enough Tory MP's haven't had enough of this behaviour to put a letter of no confidence in. Maybe they're worried about Priti Patel getting the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVFox Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 18 minutes ago, Parafox said: Maybe they're worried about Priti Patel getting the job. Boris or Priti…what a choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 27 May 2022 Share Posted 27 May 2022 Only man that could possibly turn it around for me, is Jeremy Hunt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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