RonnieTodger Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 90% of British punditry is “the press” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 53 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Well there you have it. Hair pulling is no longer violent conduct. Precedent has been set… how long will this last for? This is ridiculous. VAR did not even give a free kick so the berk in charge does not think a foul. Bringing game into disrepute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 3 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: This is ridiculous. VAR did not even give a free kick so the berk in charge does not think a foul. Bringing game into disrepute Var can’t give a free kick it can only interfere if it thinks there has been violent conduct in this instance they should just have come out and said it was a mistake by the var - now they’ve set a bar for the acceptance of hair pulling in a tussle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 1 hour ago, UniFox21 said: I'd argue we now pay more attention to it, especially the finer details I'm not sure that's the case as sky and other media used to analyse incidents to the nth degree part of the reason VAR was introduced because having seen the media use all those camera angles people were clamouring for it to be done officially and professionally () Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lambert09 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 VAR is a great introduction to the game… it’s just not been used correctly yet. First thing i would do is ban slow motion viewing. If it needs slow motion than it’s too close to be actually needed (or clear and obvious as they say) it’s the slow motion that’s changing the game, football is a contact sport, i hate that any little touch must be a penalty when in reality you have players flopping for everything. when you were kids and you do that thing, where you like touch a mate and they fling themselves to the floor… i think var ref would give that 😂 Hair pulling should be a red really but I can see why it could be just in yellow territory. I’m not sure where it falls on violent conduct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 4 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: On the contrary I believe this was in retaliation to his cousin’s husband being outed as gay, Vito was his name. Souness, has sponsored floats in the pride parade at Brighton, he is certainly the opposite of a homophobe. I realise my response is useless, but as a fan of the sopranos, they should do their homework. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 1 minute ago, westernpark said: On the contrary I believe this was in retaliation to his cousin’s husband being outed as gay, Vito was his name. Souness, has sponsored floats in the pride parade at Brighton, he is certainly the opposite of a homophobe. I realise my response is useless, but as a fan of the sopranos, they should do their homework. It's not that deep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxdiamond Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 35 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Var can’t give a free kick it can only interfere if it thinks there has been violent conduct in this instance they should just have come out and said it was a mistake by the var - now they’ve set a bar for the acceptance of hair pulling in a tussle Yes, sorry meant what you have said. Double whammy by not indicating violent conduct and then saying it was looked at and dismissed. It seems football has brought in technology but due to incompetent officials nearly as bad as before we had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nalis Posted 15 August 2022 Popular Post Share Posted 15 August 2022 42 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Quite an old clip but wonder if some of the old school still think like this? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 1 hour ago, Lambert09 said: VAR is a great introduction to the game… it’s just not been used correctly yet. First thing i would do is ban slow motion viewing. If it needs slow motion than it’s too close to be actually needed (or clear and obvious as they say) it’s the slow motion that’s changing the game, football is a contact sport, i hate that any little touch must be a penalty when in reality you have players flopping for everything. when you were kids and you do that thing, where you like touch a mate and they fling themselves to the floor… i think var ref would give that 😂 Hair pulling should be a red really but I can see why it could be just in yellow territory. I’m not sure where it falls on violent conduct. You get red cards for much less. Pushing someone in the face is less violent than hair pulling. So for me, this is a clear red as well and baffling how they missed/avoided it. Let the ref watch it on the monitor, I bet he is in no doubt that it is a red card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said: You get red cards for much less. Pushing someone in the face is less violent than hair pulling. So for me, this is a clear red as well and baffling how they missed/avoided it. Let the ref watch it on the monitor, I bet he is in no doubt that it is a red card. Mike Dean himself would have given a red card for less .. Wonder why he didn’t think it was worthy of even a yellow card ? Wait till someone pulls Salah’s hair in front of the Kop at Anfield ! Red card will be out ASAP.. Edited 15 August 2022 by Super_horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 If hair pulling is fair game now then maybe that's the solution to our set piece problems. Someone gets the run on you, just pull their hair, or maybe do it proactively so they can't make a run at all. Obviously before too long everyone will just shave their heads but we can cross that bridge when we come to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said: It's not that deep It is if you quote the sopranos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 11 minutes ago, westernpark said: It is if you quote the sopranos. I mean technically, I think it was very clear Phil was in the closet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 Different era but any excuse to play Riijkard / Voeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westernpark Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 5 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: I mean technically, I think it was very clear Phil was in the closet Well, it might explain why he was so quick to denounce Vito. If only we could all be like Bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 49 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Mike Dean himself would have given a red card for less .. Wonder why he didn’t think it was worthy of even a yellow card ? Wait till someone pulls Salah’s hair in front of the Kop at Anfield ! Red card will be out ASAP.. Var cannot recommend anything except a red card but it’s irrelevant- it’s violent conduct 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 (edited) How on earth has Romero got away without any punishment? Makes a mockery of everything given a few years ago for similar Huth and Fellani were banned for few games Edited 15 August 2022 by UniFox21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 Didn't watch the football yesterday what has souness done/said to have to release a statement? Something sexist I assume from the sopranos video posted above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc82 Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: Didn't watch the football yesterday what has souness done/said to have to release a statement? Something sexist I assume from the sopranos video posted above. Said it’s a man’s game. I think he’s been taken out of context a bit though. Edited 15 August 2022 by Lcfc82 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingsX Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 5 hours ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Well there you have it. Hair pulling is no longer violent conduct. Precedent has been set… how long will this last for? David Luiz Guendouzi Cucurella Until the last Sideshow Bob lookalike has been run out of the League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 25 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: Didn't watch the football yesterday what has souness done/said to have to release a statement? Something sexist I assume from the sopranos video posted above. He literally just said that it feels like it's more a man's game again now that refs aren't blowing up for every dive. Which is just phrasing really, it just means that you can by physical and robust without fear of the ref giving every bit of a contact as a free kick. I'd be disappointed if he has apologised for that. I'd just explain to people that it's a well known phrase and anyone with an ounce of sense would realise that. Not everything is a sexist attack. If anything the refs have taken a note from the reffing in the women's euros this summer, which was absolutely superb in the main. They really let the games flow and helped lead to more wide open games and counter attacking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 Is what Souness said (man's game) in any way linked to what's going on between him and Mings? Seen he's called the defender out to come on to Talksport, then Souness said he won't learn anything off him even if Mings did call in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 15 August 2022 Share Posted 15 August 2022 I just cant understand it. Var is gone mad, Not at all what it was brought in for. Can someone explain what's the difference between the Cucurella pulled hair and the Antonio shove on the defender. Both Fowls seeking to gain an advantage. One goal allowed the other cancelled out. ? This is why Var needs to be a panel and not just one person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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