FoxyPV Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 42 minutes ago, StanSP said: Watched the Mendy one again and I'm still incredulous. He's on the floor, Bowen already running and Mendy has blatantly feigned injury knowing he's fvcked up. Insane. Disgraceful decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 Ref watch should be interesting Monday at least 4 maybe 5 big calls to review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 Peter Walton's analysis of the Van Dijk one. Trying so hard to defend him and defend the decision for it not to be a red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BKLFox said: Ref watch should be interesting Monday at least 4 maybe 5 big calls to review Dermot Gallagher will probably say the decisions were wrong but he can see why the refs gave them ? In other words he personally thinks they were mistakes but too worried about upsetting his mates to criticise them . Edited 4 September 2022 by Super_horns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 7 minutes ago, BKLFox said: Ref watch should be interesting Monday at least 4 maybe 5 big calls to review Dermot will justify the Bowen one saying that it’s a foul (kop out because many think it isn’t). he will say that mason failed to see the push in the newcastle one and that is unfortunate he will say the villa one is just a bad offside call and whatever follows is irrelevant because the play stops before the shot comes in and the VVD foul is not excessive force so just a yellow he will contradict himself throughout the process 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear Of The Fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 2 hours ago, elvisfmcfly said: But the clowns using it is VAR. That’s what VAR is,the clown watching the video and then deciding. The referee isn’t watching VAR he’s part of the package. We're saying the same thing. I know the "educated" clowns are part of the package. The technology is there though to make good use of it as it happens in basketball and NFL. The major issue right now is that the sport is being taken away from the fans in every single aspect. I'm certain I'm not the only saying I had ENOUGH. Believe me also, I would have said the same thing even if our team was top of the league now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 So Tuchel and Vieira say those disallowed goals were fouls ? Have managers always been that biased and one eyed on an incident everyone else say was wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear Of The Fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 2 minutes ago, Super_horns said: So Tuchel and Vieira say those disallowed goals were fouls ? Have managers always been that biased and one eyed on an incident everyone else say was wrong ? Yes they were. They're a major part of the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 2 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said: Yes they were. They're a major part of the problem. I suppose PV is from the Wenger Arsenal school of thinking when it comes to decisions like that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 43 minutes ago, Super_horns said: So Tuchel and Vieira say those disallowed goals were fouls ? Have managers always been that biased and one eyed on an incident everyone else say was wrong ? I don't get what Tuchel says because he also says they were lucky with the decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 Pundits and media of course love VAR controversy, gives them something to talk about and reasons for people to ring up the phone ins! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 48 minutes ago, Super_horns said: So Tuchel and Vieira say those disallowed goals were fouls ? Have managers always been that biased and one eyed on an incident everyone else say was wrong ? It does them no good to say otherwise if they agree that they got away with one then the media (and refs because they’re human) think they aren’t owed anything. I bet west game and newcastle get a 50/50 var call in the next few weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 5 minutes ago, Tuna said: Pundits and media of course love VAR controversy, gives them something to talk about and reasons for people to ring up the phone ins! We used to argue about bad ref calls before var - we don’t need var for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 The Van Dijk one was the same as this from our game against Newcastle last week. Schar on Neto - He didn't quite get him at full force on the shin but slid down it and took his ankle away. Ref and VAR both said yellow. Should have been a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 Fantastic finish by Cornet for the disallowed goal wasn’t it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, StanSP said: I don't get what Tuchel says because he also says they were lucky with the decision Yes he did . Maybe meant it went for us today unlike v Spurs rather than it was the wrong call, He even suggested the first West Ham goal should have been ruled out in one set of comments I saw ! Edited 4 September 2022 by Super_horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Bordersfox said: Oh the flip side damaging the integrity of the league by appearing to be too biased in favour of big teams will surely not help the brand? Likewise, when we won the league I am sure that generated immense interest around the world in the Prem. I do believe the big clubs are going to be lobbying the Premier League and UEFA incessantly on lots of issues (FFP for example). But to systematically enable decisions in favour of big clubs on the pitch, and for that to come down from the top l, would require immense organisation and secrecy, with leaks possible at every level. I'm not saying it is impossible but I think it's extraordinarily unlikely.. Hopefully someone somewhere will or has compiled some decent data about suspect decisions and big teams. I still think it's more likely an unconscious bias or pressure felt by refs. This is exactly why managers are always gobbing off about referees. Keep the pressure on. There was something about the way we did it that captured peoples hearts. Vardy’s streak, Mahrez magic, Kante coming from nowhere to be an absolutely sensation. Claudio the lovable grandad… it was all just different. The great escape. Brighton doing it under Potter (for example) wouldn’t have the same aura around it I don’t think. Edited 4 September 2022 by Leeds Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 16 minutes ago, The Bear said: The Van Dijk one was the same as this from our game against Newcastle last week. Schar on Neto - He didn't quite get him at full force on the shin but slid down it and took his ankle away. Ref and VAR both said yellow. Should have been a red. As much as i dont agree with it being a yellow (should have been a red) At least there is some consistency. Thats the biggie for me, when you see near on identical incidents and 1 is a yellow and 1 red. This is also where alot of the 'there is corruption in the league' comes from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 This is why Var should be a 3 or 5 man group making the Var decisions. A buzzer and you press it within 10 seconds of seeing the replay or slow motion. Guarantee you'll get a lot more decisions right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 8 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: This is why Var should be a 3 or 5 man group making the Var decisions. A buzzer and you press it within 10 seconds of seeing the replay or slow motion. Guarantee you'll get a lot more decisions right. I’ve got news for you clever fox ……..I think the var has two officials with him at stockley park ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 4 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I’ve got news for you clever fox ……..I think the var has two officials with him at stockley park ! That still doesn't work, It's got to be an odd number for obvious reasons. ? Taking the Van Dilk foul. What do they do when one says it's a foul and a red Card and the other says no it wasn't deliberate. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 3 hours ago, Cincinnati Fox said: Why so empty seats at notts? Massive club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: That still doesn't work, It's got to be an odd number for obvious reasons. ? Taking the Van Dilk foul. What do they do when one says it's a foul and a red Card and the other says no it wasn't deliberate. ? The var is a PL referee his ‘helpers’ are lower level refs the var decides and I expect the helpers wouldn’t dare to question what he thinks Edited 4 September 2022 by st albans fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weller Wing Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 The only person to sort out VAR once and for all👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 4 September 2022 Share Posted 4 September 2022 Just now, st albans fox said: The var is a PL referee his ‘helpers’ are lower level refs the var decides and I expect the helpers wouldn’t dare to question what he thinks Well then what's the point of having them there. It just sounds like a crazy situation and open to corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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