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8 hours ago, StanSP said:

What do we reckon happens in our dressing rooms after a win (those were the days)? 

 

Rodgers showing off his collection of Gucci belts? 

 

honestly i was sat there waiting for frank to pop in at the end… would have been absolutely amazing. missed opportunity 

 

 

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Jordan Pickford has started the season in fine form, where he left off last season. The Everton keeper has the best PSxG – GA figure in the Premier League.

What the f*** does that mean, you ask? PSxG+/- is the number of goals a keeper has conceded minus the expected goals against their team. Everton’s xGA is 9.4; Pickford has conceded only six, giving him a score of +3.4.

Robert Sanchez has also been showing why we’ve touted him for Chelsea, while Edouard Mendy has also demonstrated why we’ve touted Sanchez for Chelsea.

Nick Pope is firming up his place in the England squad, while Aaron Ramsdale and Dean Henderson have conceded more than expected.

Leicester opted against signing a goalkeeper to replace Kasper Schmeichel in the summer and Brendan Rodgers might be cursing that decision while watching Danny Ward flail in the Foxes goal.

Manchester City’s Ederson has conceded a goal for every other shot he’s faced on target, while Neto is proving a smart signing with the Bournemouth keeper starting his Premier League career with the highest save percentage.

With thanks to FBREF, Here’s how the Prem keepers rank for PSxG+/-, with only keepers who have played at least three games eligible.

 

1) Jordan Pickford (Everton): +3.4
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 31 (5th highest in PL)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 9.4
Saves percentage: 83.9 (PL ranking: 2nd)

 

2) Robert Sanchez (Brighton): +2.6
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 17 (19th)
Goals conceded: 5
Expected goals against: 5.6
Saves percentage: 70.6 (9th)

 

3) Nick Pope (Newcastle): +2.4
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 38 (3rd)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 9.4
Saves percentage: 81.6 (3rd)

 

4) Bernd Leno (Fulham): +2.3
Games: 5
Shots on target faced: 28 (7th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 11.3
Saves percentage: 71.4 (7th)

 

5) José Sá (Wolves): +1.4
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 25 (13th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 7.4
Saves percentage: 71.4 (6th)

 

6) Emiliano Martínez (Aston Villa): +1.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 26 (6th)
Goals conceded: 10
Expected goals against: 10.1
Saves percentage: 65.5 (13th)

 

7) Neto (Bournemouth): +0.7
Games: 3
Shots on target faced: 11 (21st)
Goals conceded: 3
Expected goals against: 3.7
Saves percentage: 90.9 (1)

 

8) Vicente Guaita (Crystal Palace): +0.5
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 24 (14th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 8.5
Saves percentage: 62.5 (16th)

 

9) Alisson (Liverpool): +0.1
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 18 (18th)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 6.1
Saves percentage: 72.2 (5th)

 

10) David de Gea (Manchester United): +0.1
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 25 (12th)
Goals conceded: 8
Expected goals against: 8.1
Saves percentage: 68 (11th)

 

11) Łukasz Fabiański (West Ham): 0.0
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 19 (17th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 6
Saves percentage: 68.4 (10th)

 

 

12) Dean Henderson (Nottingham Forest): -0.3
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 43 (highest in Prem)
Goals conceded: 17
Expected goals against: 16.7
Saves percentage: 60.5 (17th)

 

13) Ederson (Manchester City): -0.6
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 12 (20th)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 4.4
Saves percentage: 50 (19th)

 

14) Hugo Lloris (Tottenham): –0.7
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 22 (15th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 6.3
Saves percentage: 72.7 (4th)

 

15) Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal): –0.9
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 20 (16th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 5.1
Saves percentage: 65 (15th)

 

16) Illan Meslier (Leeds): –1.4
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 26 (10th)
Goals conceded: 10
Expected goals against: 8.6
Saves percentage: 65.4 (14th)

 

17) Mark Travers (Bournemouth): –1.7
Games: 4
Shots on target faced: 27 (9th)
Goals conceded: 16
Expected goals against: 12.3
Saves percentage: 40.7 (23rd)

 

Edouard Mendy speaks about Liverpool

 

18) Edouard Mendy (Chelsea): –1.9
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 27 (9th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 7.1
Saves percentage: 66.7 (12th)

 

19) David Raya (Brentford): –2.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 42 (2nd)
Goals conceded: 12
Expected goals against: 9.9
Saves percentage: 71.4 (8th)

 

20) Gavin Bazunu (Southampton): –2.5
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 26 (11th)
Goals conceded: 11
Expected goals against: 7.5
Saves percentage: 57.7 (18th)

 

21) Danny Ward (Leicester): –6.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 36 (4th)
Goals conceded: 22
Expected goals against: 14.9
Saves percentage: 41.7 (20th)

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2 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.football365.com/news/feature-ranking-premier-league-keepers-expected-goals-against-jordan-pickford-mendy-de-gea-alisson

 

Jordan Pickford has started the season in fine form, where he left off last season. The Everton keeper has the best PSxG – GA figure in the Premier League.

What the f*** does that mean, you ask? PSxG+/- is the number of goals a keeper has conceded minus the expected goals against their team. Everton’s xGA is 9.4; Pickford has conceded only six, giving him a score of +3.4.

Robert Sanchez has also been showing why we’ve touted him for Chelsea, while Edouard Mendy has also demonstrated why we’ve touted Sanchez for Chelsea.

Nick Pope is firming up his place in the England squad, while Aaron Ramsdale and Dean Henderson have conceded more than expected.

Leicester opted against signing a goalkeeper to replace Kasper Schmeichel in the summer and Brendan Rodgers might be cursing that decision while watching Danny Ward flail in the Foxes goal.

Manchester City’s Ederson has conceded a goal for every other shot he’s faced on target, while Neto is proving a smart signing with the Bournemouth keeper starting his Premier League career with the highest save percentage.

With thanks to FBREF, Here’s how the Prem keepers rank for PSxG+/-, with only keepers who have played at least three games eligible.

 

1) Jordan Pickford (Everton): +3.4
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 31 (5th highest in PL)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 9.4
Saves percentage: 83.9 (PL ranking: 2nd)

 

2) Robert Sanchez (Brighton): +2.6
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 17 (19th)
Goals conceded: 5
Expected goals against: 5.6
Saves percentage: 70.6 (9th)

 

3) Nick Pope (Newcastle): +2.4
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 38 (3rd)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 9.4
Saves percentage: 81.6 (3rd)

 

4) Bernd Leno (Fulham): +2.3
Games: 5
Shots on target faced: 28 (7th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 11.3
Saves percentage: 71.4 (7th)

 

5) José Sá (Wolves): +1.4
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 25 (13th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 7.4
Saves percentage: 71.4 (6th)

 

6) Emiliano Martínez (Aston Villa): +1.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 26 (6th)
Goals conceded: 10
Expected goals against: 10.1
Saves percentage: 65.5 (13th)

 

7) Neto (Bournemouth): +0.7
Games: 3
Shots on target faced: 11 (21st)
Goals conceded: 3
Expected goals against: 3.7
Saves percentage: 90.9 (1)

 

8) Vicente Guaita (Crystal Palace): +0.5
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 24 (14th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 8.5
Saves percentage: 62.5 (16th)

 

9) Alisson (Liverpool): +0.1
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 18 (18th)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 6.1
Saves percentage: 72.2 (5th)

 

10) David de Gea (Manchester United): +0.1
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 25 (12th)
Goals conceded: 8
Expected goals against: 8.1
Saves percentage: 68 (11th)

 

11) Łukasz Fabiański (West Ham): 0.0
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 19 (17th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 6
Saves percentage: 68.4 (10th)

 

 

12) Dean Henderson (Nottingham Forest): -0.3
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 43 (highest in Prem)
Goals conceded: 17
Expected goals against: 16.7
Saves percentage: 60.5 (17th)

 

13) Ederson (Manchester City): -0.6
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 12 (20th)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 4.4
Saves percentage: 50 (19th)

 

14) Hugo Lloris (Tottenham): –0.7
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 22 (15th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 6.3
Saves percentage: 72.7 (4th)

 

15) Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal): –0.9
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 20 (16th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 5.1
Saves percentage: 65 (15th)

 

16) Illan Meslier (Leeds): –1.4
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 26 (10th)
Goals conceded: 10
Expected goals against: 8.6
Saves percentage: 65.4 (14th)

 

17) Mark Travers (Bournemouth): –1.7
Games: 4
Shots on target faced: 27 (9th)
Goals conceded: 16
Expected goals against: 12.3
Saves percentage: 40.7 (23rd)

 

Edouard Mendy speaks about Liverpool

 

18) Edouard Mendy (Chelsea): –1.9
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 27 (9th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 7.1
Saves percentage: 66.7 (12th)

 

19) David Raya (Brentford): –2.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 42 (2nd)
Goals conceded: 12
Expected goals against: 9.9
Saves percentage: 71.4 (8th)

 

20) Gavin Bazunu (Southampton): –2.5
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 26 (11th)
Goals conceded: 11
Expected goals against: 7.5
Saves percentage: 57.7 (18th)

 

21) Danny Ward (Leicester): –6.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 36 (4th)
Goals conceded: 22
Expected goals against: 14.9
Saves percentage: 41.7 (20th)

I genuinely want to vomit, we've gone from the best keeper in our history to someone who has let in 7 goals he should save in 7 games... on top of the 15 that should go in anyway. 

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17 minutes ago, kingkisnorbo said:

He’s managed to be 21st out of 20 teamslol

Bournemouth are listed twice with 2 different goalkeepers having played for them.

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4 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.football365.com/news/feature-ranking-premier-league-keepers-expected-goals-against-jordan-pickford-mendy-de-gea-alisson

 

Jordan Pickford has started the season in fine form, where he left off last season. The Everton keeper has the best PSxG – GA figure in the Premier League.

What the f*** does that mean, you ask? PSxG+/- is the number of goals a keeper has conceded minus the expected goals against their team. Everton’s xGA is 9.4; Pickford has conceded only six, giving him a score of +3.4.

Robert Sanchez has also been showing why we’ve touted him for Chelsea, while Edouard Mendy has also demonstrated why we’ve touted Sanchez for Chelsea.

Nick Pope is firming up his place in the England squad, while Aaron Ramsdale and Dean Henderson have conceded more than expected.

Leicester opted against signing a goalkeeper to replace Kasper Schmeichel in the summer and Brendan Rodgers might be cursing that decision while watching Danny Ward flail in the Foxes goal.

Manchester City’s Ederson has conceded a goal for every other shot he’s faced on target, while Neto is proving a smart signing with the Bournemouth keeper starting his Premier League career with the highest save percentage.

With thanks to FBREF, Here’s how the Prem keepers rank for PSxG+/-, with only keepers who have played at least three games eligible.

 

1) Jordan Pickford (Everton): +3.4
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 31 (5th highest in PL)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 9.4
Saves percentage: 83.9 (PL ranking: 2nd)

 

2) Robert Sanchez (Brighton): +2.6
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 17 (19th)
Goals conceded: 5
Expected goals against: 5.6
Saves percentage: 70.6 (9th)

 

3) Nick Pope (Newcastle): +2.4
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 38 (3rd)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 9.4
Saves percentage: 81.6 (3rd)

 

4) Bernd Leno (Fulham): +2.3
Games: 5
Shots on target faced: 28 (7th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 11.3
Saves percentage: 71.4 (7th)

 

5) José Sá (Wolves): +1.4
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 25 (13th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 7.4
Saves percentage: 71.4 (6th)

 

6) Emiliano Martínez (Aston Villa): +1.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 26 (6th)
Goals conceded: 10
Expected goals against: 10.1
Saves percentage: 65.5 (13th)

 

7) Neto (Bournemouth): +0.7
Games: 3
Shots on target faced: 11 (21st)
Goals conceded: 3
Expected goals against: 3.7
Saves percentage: 90.9 (1)

 

8) Vicente Guaita (Crystal Palace): +0.5
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 24 (14th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 8.5
Saves percentage: 62.5 (16th)

 

9) Alisson (Liverpool): +0.1
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 18 (18th)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 6.1
Saves percentage: 72.2 (5th)

 

10) David de Gea (Manchester United): +0.1
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 25 (12th)
Goals conceded: 8
Expected goals against: 8.1
Saves percentage: 68 (11th)

 

11) Łukasz Fabiański (West Ham): 0.0
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 19 (17th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 6
Saves percentage: 68.4 (10th)

 

 

12) Dean Henderson (Nottingham Forest): -0.3
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 43 (highest in Prem)
Goals conceded: 17
Expected goals against: 16.7
Saves percentage: 60.5 (17th)

 

13) Ederson (Manchester City): -0.6
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 12 (20th)
Goals conceded: 6
Expected goals against: 4.4
Saves percentage: 50 (19th)

 

14) Hugo Lloris (Tottenham): –0.7
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 22 (15th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 6.3
Saves percentage: 72.7 (4th)

 

15) Aaron Ramsdale (Arsenal): –0.9
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 20 (16th)
Goals conceded: 7
Expected goals against: 5.1
Saves percentage: 65 (15th)

 

16) Illan Meslier (Leeds): –1.4
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 26 (10th)
Goals conceded: 10
Expected goals against: 8.6
Saves percentage: 65.4 (14th)

 

17) Mark Travers (Bournemouth): –1.7
Games: 4
Shots on target faced: 27 (9th)
Goals conceded: 16
Expected goals against: 12.3
Saves percentage: 40.7 (23rd)

 

Edouard Mendy speaks about Liverpool

 

18) Edouard Mendy (Chelsea): –1.9
Games: 6
Shots on target faced: 27 (9th)
Goals conceded: 9
Expected goals against: 7.1
Saves percentage: 66.7 (12th)

 

19) David Raya (Brentford): –2.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 42 (2nd)
Goals conceded: 12
Expected goals against: 9.9
Saves percentage: 71.4 (8th)

 

20) Gavin Bazunu (Southampton): –2.5
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 26 (11th)
Goals conceded: 11
Expected goals against: 7.5
Saves percentage: 57.7 (18th)

 

21) Danny Ward (Leicester): –6.1
Games: 7
Shots on target faced: 36 (4th)
Goals conceded: 22
Expected goals against: 14.9
Saves percentage: 41.7 (20th)

Whoever wrote that article is either bad a maths or has the stats wrong. Nearly half are wrong.

 

However, Ward would still be bottom!

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So Cooper’s job at Forest is in question according to the media, Talksport and Danny Mills in particular.

 

Yet old Bullshit Brendan would be hard done by if Leicester were to sack him?

 

Now I called out people who seemed bothered what the media will be saying about if we sacked Rodgers (How is it still if! Not already or atleast when…) and I don’t give a **** what they say about us, thats why he should have been gone sometime through last season (and that would have been too late).

 

What really made me laugh is they were questioning if 1 point in 5 was really good enough (Why they weren’t question why 4 in 7 wasn’t good enough I don’t know :rolleyes:) meanwhile 1 point from 7 breaking all kinds of unwanted record is ok for Leicester and Bullshit Brendan would be hard done by if he were to be sacked?
 

Rightio.

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Cooper needs to stay with us until/unless we’re in the Championship and out of the running for promotion next year.

 

Whatever happens this season will be our best league position for 23 years, and we’re competing with no PL infrastructure and a team that’s valued at less than every other team’s except Bournemouth.

 

Surviving relegation would be great but a more realistic ambition is get about 25 points and a PL infrastructure in place.

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10 hours ago, ForestAreMagic said:

Cooper needs to stay with us until/unless we’re in the Championship and out of the running for promotion next year.

 

Whatever happens this season will be our best league position for 23 years, and we’re competing with no PL infrastructure and a team that’s valued at less than every other team’s except Bournemouth.

 

Surviving relegation would be great but a more realistic ambition is get about 25 points and a PL infrastructure in place.

I'd have thought the best plan is to keep him then go again next season (if you go down). He's proved at yourselves and Swansea he's more than capable of reaching the play offs in the Championship.

 

The amount of signings you've made is strange though, and if they aren't all his, which I presume they aren't, then he might end up walking?

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14 hours ago, Matt said:

So Cooper’s job at Forest is in question according to the media, Talksport and Danny Mills in particular.

 

Yet old Bullshit Brendan would be hard done by if Leicester were to sack him?

 

Now I called out people who seemed bothered what the media will be saying about if we sacked Rodgers (How is it still if! Not already or atleast when…) and I don’t give a **** what they say about us, thats why he should have been gone sometime through last season (and that would have been too late).

 

What really made me laugh is they were questioning if 1 point in 5 was really good enough (Why they weren’t question why 4 in 7 wasn’t good enough I don’t know :rolleyes:) meanwhile 1 point from 7 breaking all kinds of unwanted record is ok for Leicester and Bullshit Brendan would be hard done by if he were to be sacked?
 

Rightio.

The media narrative for us is that we've been punching above our weight and Rodgers has performed miracles to get us where we have been, ignoring the reality that he inherited an excellent young squad that was only missing a quality RW (something he has failed to address repeatedly). The narrative around Forest is far more positive ie they've returned where they belong and they've signed loads of players so they should be doing better. 

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2 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Fofana moved too soon, and I'm not just saying that as because he left the team I support. He has all the attributes at his young age to be one of the best centre backs in the world in a few years, but he has stuff to learn. At a club like Leicester he'd get that opportunity, he'd get away with a few errors. At Chelsea he's under the microscope and every mistake is magnified, the fans are quickly on a players back especially if its a player signed for big money. Also there is always someone to come in and replace him. He won't get the chance to learn on the pitch and it could potentially stunt his progression as a player if he's getting less game time.

kid and his advisors thought they knew best .......

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11 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

Nice now interested in Parker 

Bit weird what's going on over there isn't it.

 

Some sort of quiet British revolution without much actual thought going into it.

 

They could do with someone other than a bloke who knows about cycling being in charge of football decisions!

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4 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Bit weird what's going on over there isn't it.

 

Some sort of quiet British revolution without much actual thought going into it.

 

They could do with someone other than a bloke who knows about cycling being in charge of football decisions!

I thought this. Looks like Radcliffe is attempting to build a team that could compete at the top end of the English Championship lol

 

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3 minutes ago, filbertway said:

I thought this. Looks like Radcliffe is attempting to build a team that could compete at the top end of the English Championship lol

 

Yep lol 

 

It's Dave Brailsford (him who definitely isn't into doping....) who is doing the sporting director role interim.

 

I get the impression he's just asked a few people he knows if they fancy a gig in the south of france. 

 

Oh also their head of recruitment is Iain Moody.... aka him off of the horrendous Malky Makay texts

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5 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Fofana moved too soon, and I'm not just saying that as because he left the team I support. He has all the attributes at his young age to be one of the best centre backs in the world in a few years, but he has stuff to learn. At a club like Leicester he'd get that opportunity, he'd get away with a few errors. At Chelsea he's under the microscope and every mistake is magnified, the fans are quickly on a players back especially if its a player signed for big money. Also there is always someone to come in and replace him. He won't get the chance to learn on the pitch and it could potentially stunt his progression as a player if he's getting less game time.

Absolutely spot on. These young players have bad advisors/agents and this combined with a player's character can make things worse for them. Unfortunately it's all about money. What's more bizarre is that these young players earn already so much money you would think their career decisions would be wiser. I understand there's ambition involved though. 

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